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really interesting that boris epshteyn is in court with donald trump in new york.e what we can make of that. he was not there for jury selection or opening statements. he showed up the date after he was indicted in arizona. maybe it was planned in advance but it is certainly worth following. >> yes, because it again shows how many of these criminal plots intersect. this is someone now indicted for a 2020 election crime trying to defend trump against the 2016 election crime as the supreme court hears the related election crime and we showed that. i want to put up on the screen just how many of trump's lawyers and other officials are in trouble. i know it looks like a lot of stamps. we will start on the lower right for you have donald trump now unindicted co-conspirator this week in arizona. that would be big news any other year by any other president that goes along with these indictments he faces and as you move over on the screen you see epstein, unindicted co- conspirator in georgia now indicted this week in georgia and as you go up, a lot of other familiar names
really interesting that boris epshteyn is in court with donald trump in new york.e what we can make of that. he was not there for jury selection or opening statements. he showed up the date after he was indicted in arizona. maybe it was planned in advance but it is certainly worth following. >> yes, because it again shows how many of these criminal plots intersect. this is someone now indicted for a 2020 election crime trying to defend trump against the 2016 election crime as the supreme...
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. >> boris epshteyn continues to have a role. >> boris epshteyn, names we have heard in the past backthe news. >> this is the first time he has been indicted but also a former trump aide remains to this day one of his closest top advisers. >> this is obviously a big deal. he is presumed innocent. defendant trump using boris as a lawyer there. we have interviewed him. >> when you say you will provide evidence, does that mean your intent is to cooperate? >> i'm happy to provide the evidence. >> is your plan to reverse the election outcome? >> i had no idea there was going to be violence at the capitol. to challenge electoral votes. there was a process. >> he is now indicted with meadows, ellis, eastman. lawyers who had to defend whether or not they became criminals plus, named among the unindicted coconspirators. the new york times says he could be an unnamed coconspirator in the jack smith case. the sixth spot has never been identified. the new york times said that. we have not confirmed that. we can confirm that epshteyn participated in the elector plot. this was about one year after
. >> boris epshteyn continues to have a role. >> boris epshteyn, names we have heard in the past backthe news. >> this is the first time he has been indicted but also a former trump aide remains to this day one of his closest top advisers. >> this is obviously a big deal. he is presumed innocent. defendant trump using boris as a lawyer there. we have interviewed him. >> when you say you will provide evidence, does that mean your intent is to cooperate? >> i'm...
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epshteyn, who was one of his closest aides even to this day boris epshteyn, people and trump-world tell us that the reason we have not seen boris epshteyn around trump recently including in new york, was started his criminal trial. there's because of concerns about the looming indictment that came to fruition last night. but i want to take a look at a few of the responses from arizona republicans because this indictment also charged all 11 fake electors from this state. you'll remember the fake electors scheme was targeting seven different states. it was part of this broader effort, allegedly to overturn the election, but arizona gop is pushing back on this indictment. they're saying that this indictment is a blatant& unprecedented abuse of prosecutorial power aimed solely at distracting the public. jake hoffman, one of the arizona fake electors also a sitting the state senator here in arizona. he said, let me be unequivocal. i'm innocent of any crime. so look to conflicting allegations here and push back here. these charges are just the latest in a string of criminal indictments. we've
epshteyn, who was one of his closest aides even to this day boris epshteyn, people and trump-world tell us that the reason we have not seen boris epshteyn around trump recently including in new york, was started his criminal trial. there's because of concerns about the looming indictment that came to fruition last night. but i want to take a look at a few of the responses from arizona republicans because this indictment also charged all 11 fake electors from this state. you'll remember the fake...
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. >> boris epshteyn has a prominent role. >> rudy giuliani, mark meadows, boris epshteyn. >> this isme he's been indicted or a former trump aide who i should note remains one of his closest advisers. >> for mr. epshteyn, this is a big deal. he's presumed innocent. this is a live issue in this new york case. defendant trump using boris as a lawyer there and then reporting on all of these issues we have interviewed epshteyn including when the early subpoenas hit. >> when you say you will provide evidence, does that mean your intent be is to cooperate. >> i'm happy to provide evidence of the overwhelming fraud that happened in the 2020 election. >> was your plan to try to force a vote in the house to reverse the election outcome. >> i had absolutely no idea there was going to be any violence at the capitol. there was absolutely a plan and a process for there to be -- to be challenges to the electoral vote. >> is that a yes? is that a yes? >> it's got a process to challenge electoral votes. >> you're on record as -- >> so we pressed on those issues and questions. epshteyn is now indicted
. >> boris epshteyn has a prominent role. >> rudy giuliani, mark meadows, boris epshteyn. >> this isme he's been indicted or a former trump aide who i should note remains one of his closest advisers. >> for mr. epshteyn, this is a big deal. he's presumed innocent. this is a live issue in this new york case. defendant trump using boris as a lawyer there and then reporting on all of these issues we have interviewed epshteyn including when the early subpoenas hit. >>...
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i mean what do you make of the fact that rudy giuliani, mark meadows, boris epshteyn, christina bob. they're all indicted here. but donald trump is not yeah, i have not had time to read through it. >> it's a bit curious because this is the first indictment that has been brought trump is not, i guess michigan but yeah, he was indicted. george obviously. correct. along with everybody else i don't i don't know. i i don't i'm not sure on that one. >> you mentioned the supreme court, the hearing tomorrow on immunity. it's really remarkable because what trump is basically arguing is that he's covered because what he was doing to try to overturn the election, they argue were official acts i mean, when you look at that, his lawyers were say, he's just doing his job. but is that how you saw it when you are inside the white house that trump is fulfilling the duties of the president at that no from the moment that mr. biden now president biden was declared the winner. i felt strongly that he did win the election. he want it fairly and a lot of my former colleagues, i believe, also felt the same
i mean what do you make of the fact that rudy giuliani, mark meadows, boris epshteyn, christina bob. they're all indicted here. but donald trump is not yeah, i have not had time to read through it. >> it's a bit curious because this is the first indictment that has been brought trump is not, i guess michigan but yeah, he was indicted. george obviously. correct. along with everybody else i don't i don't know. i i don't i'm not sure on that one. >> you mentioned the supreme court, the...
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and in fact, sources have told us and people close to trump told us that the reason boris epshteyn hasn't been seen with trump in new york for the start of this criminal trial. there is because of concerns of this looming indictment that come into fruition today. >> and so some of these defendants and some of these that you're naming boris, obviously, rudy giuliani, mark meadows, their names are redacted in the version that we have now because i understand there's still actually in the process of serving them. so when i say this is breaking, it's breaking to that level. is there anything else you can tell us about some of these redact? did names which by the way are written, some of them in the context of unindicted coconspirator. number one was unwilling to accept that he lost the election, right? that unindicted unindicted coconspirator number one, obviously then is donald j. trump? >> right? absolutely. and look, these are all individuals from the trump world, from the trump universe, the three we've identified so far are obviously very close to trump, or we're very close to trump at a
and in fact, sources have told us and people close to trump told us that the reason boris epshteyn hasn't been seen with trump in new york for the start of this criminal trial. there is because of concerns of this looming indictment that come into fruition today. >> and so some of these defendants and some of these that you're naming boris, obviously, rudy giuliani, mark meadows, their names are redacted in the version that we have now because i understand there's still actually in the...
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the indictment alleges that rudy giuliani, mark meadows, boris epshteyn a close adviser to the former president, president, they all work together with these fake electors from arizona to deceive the people in the voters here. and look, these are serious crimes and perhaps even more expansive than what we were expecting. we've reported previously that the attorney general here seem to be focused primarily on the electors themselves. there's 11 who were charged today, in addition to the trump allies. but the indictment does really reflect how this investigation it has expanded over just the last several months. we did have reporting that indicated that was the case, that they were looking into people from trump's natural campaign, from people in trump's inner orbit and can't get much more inner orbit than rudy giuliani and mark meadows as far as that time-frame, we're donald trump was trying to overturn the 2020 election. look, this is the latest and the most recent state-level investigation to bring criminal charges for actions related to the 2020 election. and in fact, it may be perh
the indictment alleges that rudy giuliani, mark meadows, boris epshteyn a close adviser to the former president, president, they all work together with these fake electors from arizona to deceive the people in the voters here. and look, these are serious crimes and perhaps even more expansive than what we were expecting. we've reported previously that the attorney general here seem to be focused primarily on the electors themselves. there's 11 who were charged today, in addition to the trump...
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epshteyn. five of these people were indicted for similar conduct in the state of georgia, where jenna ellis has pleaded guilty. the 11 fake electors were part of a multistate scheme to help donald trump overturned a result of the 2020 election. there are already prosecutions of at least some of these fake electors in three of the seven states involved in the multistate scheme, including georgia, michigan, and nevada. but, tonight marks the first time that criminal charges are being brought in the state of arizona. >> we are here because justice demands an answer to the efforts the defendants and other unindicted co-conspirators allegedly took to undermine the will of arizona's voters during the 2020 presidential election. arizona's election was free and fair. the people of arizona elected president biden. unwilling to accept this fact, the defendants charged by the state grand jury allegedly schemed to prevent unlawful transfer of the presidency. a state grand jury made up of everyday regular a
epshteyn. five of these people were indicted for similar conduct in the state of georgia, where jenna ellis has pleaded guilty. the 11 fake electors were part of a multistate scheme to help donald trump overturned a result of the 2020 election. there are already prosecutions of at least some of these fake electors in three of the seven states involved in the multistate scheme, including georgia, michigan, and nevada. but, tonight marks the first time that criminal charges are being brought in...
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. >> asha, one of the four attorneys in the courtroom, boris epshteyn who is 1 of 53 trump associates charged with election interference in four separate battleground states, arizona, michigan, et cetera, and what is the import? >> the import is it is adding to the underlying scheme that trump has been charged for. now, in the arizona case what's really notable is there's one absent defendant which is donald trump. and i think to bring it back to the supreme court case, it goes to some of the inconsistency of this theory of immunity that he can engage in illegal conduct and potentially not be held accountable but all of these people who participated in that same scheme can be, the same thing is happening in the hush money case, you know, with michael cohen who pleaded guilty so i think it illuminates some of the contradiction that's happening in terms of his own criminal liability. >> it's always dangerous to call the hush money case a big election interference case, right? there are all those other cases out there that in my view address big picture election interference. to say this
. >> asha, one of the four attorneys in the courtroom, boris epshteyn who is 1 of 53 trump associates charged with election interference in four separate battleground states, arizona, michigan, et cetera, and what is the import? >> the import is it is adding to the underlying scheme that trump has been charged for. now, in the arizona case what's really notable is there's one absent defendant which is donald trump. and i think to bring it back to the supreme court case, it goes to...
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as you mentioned, boris epshteyn, who was one of trump's closest aides to this day, is charged in this indictment, as well as christina bob, who was a trump attorney, a former trump attorney. she's also a former oan host, and notably she was just actually appointed to a job at the republican national committee as counsel for election integrity of ironic, when up here. but look, i want to the republicans in the state are already pushing back on this indictment. the attorney general here isn't democrat, and the arizona gop is saying that this is basically a politically motivated distraction. they said in a statement, a blatant that this was a blatant. and an unprecedented abuse a prosecutorial power aimed solely at distracting the public. jake hoffman, one of those fake electors from arizona, who is also a sitting state senator also pushing back and saying that this was politically motivated and being very clear that he says, let me be unequivocal. i am innocent of any crime in this case. but look, the wheels of justice will play out here as we've seen in other states, michigan georgia y
as you mentioned, boris epshteyn, who was one of trump's closest aides to this day, is charged in this indictment, as well as christina bob, who was a trump attorney, a former trump attorney. she's also a former oan host, and notably she was just actually appointed to a job at the republican national committee as counsel for election integrity of ironic, when up here. but look, i want to the republicans in the state are already pushing back on this indictment. the attorney general here isn't...
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and sources are telling kristen holmes that the reason we haven't seen boris epshteyn close to the former president as his trial in new york has started, is because of concerns in trump's inner circle about this it's looming indictment in arizona. so now we know that boris epshteyn is among those who has been indicted and charged along with mark meadows, rudy giuliani, and a host of others that cohen thanks so much meanwhile, in the former prisoners bid to return to the white house. he's been laying the groundwork for what another term in office might look like, primarily how he plans to execute his goal of overhauling the federal government and read washington in the so-called deep state qin law, investigated some of the former president's promises and the impact they may have. here's what she found at every 2024 campaign rally for former president donald trump he makes a vow. we will demolish the deep state. we will demolish the deep state. we will demolish the deep state. >> the deep is his named enemy federal workers, who trump leaves conspire against him. >> here's my plan to dismant
and sources are telling kristen holmes that the reason we haven't seen boris epshteyn close to the former president as his trial in new york has started, is because of concerns in trump's inner circle about this it's looming indictment in arizona. so now we know that boris epshteyn is among those who has been indicted and charged along with mark meadows, rudy giuliani, and a host of others that cohen thanks so much meanwhile, in the former prisoners bid to return to the white house. he's been...
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they include key trump aids rudy giuliani, mark meadows, boris epshteyn, and former attorney christinaion into the chair. they have no sense of humor, do they? trump has not been charged and he is described in the documents as an unindicted co- conspirator one catalyst for the whole plot to overturn his election defeat. representatives are mark meadows and rudy giuliani deny that they have been charged with doing anything. it was revealed that trump was also an unindicted co- conspirator in the michigan case as well. joining our coverage, founder of the site democracy darkest, mark elias. he is also the author of a new book, minority rule, the right- wing attack on the will of the people and the fight to resist it. maia is also back. talk about arizona and something i try not to do what without warning, mark elias. it is good, right, to see justice grind. i feel like you and ari berman have been on the show, talking about the lies behind january 6th and the equally insidious suppression laws that were run through after since the earliest days of 2020. the important point seems to be ev
they include key trump aids rudy giuliani, mark meadows, boris epshteyn, and former attorney christinaion into the chair. they have no sense of humor, do they? trump has not been charged and he is described in the documents as an unindicted co- conspirator one catalyst for the whole plot to overturn his election defeat. representatives are mark meadows and rudy giuliani deny that they have been charged with doing anything. it was revealed that trump was also an unindicted co- conspirator in the...
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along with several trump aides including rudy giuliani, mark meadows, and boris epshteyn. trump himself was not charged but was referred to as an unindicted coconspirator. as all of this was happening, in washington, d.c. today, the supreme court heard oral arguments on trump's claim that presidents have absolute immunity to essentially do whatever they want in office, crimes included, as long as it's, quote, an official act, which according to trump's lawyer includes potentially staging a military coup or ordering the assassination of political opponents. that's a real argument he tried to make. >> well, he's gone. let's say this president who ordered the military to stage a coup, he's no longer president. he wasn't impeached. he couldn't be impeached. but he ordered the military to stage a coup, and you're saying that's an official act. >> i think it would depend on the circumstances whether it was an official act. if it's an official act, there needs to be impeachment and conviction beforehand because the framers viewed that kind of -- >> if it's an official act. is it
along with several trump aides including rudy giuliani, mark meadows, and boris epshteyn. trump himself was not charged but was referred to as an unindicted coconspirator. as all of this was happening, in washington, d.c. today, the supreme court heard oral arguments on trump's claim that presidents have absolute immunity to essentially do whatever they want in office, crimes included, as long as it's, quote, an official act, which according to trump's lawyer includes potentially staging a...
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epshteyn, former chief of staff, mark meadows, john eastman, rudy giuliani are all about the indicted. >> now the nine counts against them range from conspiracy and forgery to engaging in fraudulent schemes. donald trump is also named as an unindicted coconspirator. in that case joining me now is arizona's governor katie hobbs, governor. thank you very much for joining us. i wonder what is your reaction to? >> the state's criminal charges now against trump allies, but also the decision not to trump to charge trump himself well, as secretary of state, i oversaw free fair secure elections in arizona and defended the votes of millions of arizonans. i am confident that attorney general mays conducted a fair and impartial investigation and grand jury process. and now the justice system will do its job the alleged actions of these extremists are shameful. they undermine the election process in our state and i hope to see them held accountable i do want to turn now to a huge issue in your state, which is the big moment in the state legislature, the house and arizona voting to overturn that c
epshteyn, former chief of staff, mark meadows, john eastman, rudy giuliani are all about the indicted. >> now the nine counts against them range from conspiracy and forgery to engaging in fraudulent schemes. donald trump is also named as an unindicted coconspirator. in that case joining me now is arizona's governor katie hobbs, governor. thank you very much for joining us. i wonder what is your reaction to? >> the state's criminal charges now against trump allies, but also the...
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his aid, boris epshteyn is in the courtroom even after being indicted in arizona for the fake elector's inner circle right now? >> look, let's not forget that arizona is not the only state where there have been indictments in a fake elector scheme. you have folks indicted in michigan and in georgia and some of the same people are indicted in all three of those states, including rudy giuliani who just spoke out about this. take a listen. >> what's the purpose of it? i mean, do you really think you're going to put us in jail if all of those places? like after my first 20 years in atlanta, i'm going to go to arizona, and then after my next 20 years, i'm going to go to michigan. no, the whole thing is to scare people so nobody will tell the truth and come to the aid and defense of an innocent man, donald trump. >> reporter: in the arizona case, trump is listed an unindicted coconspirator number one, but he's facing charges in fulton county, and federal charges in washington, d.c. related to attempts to overturn the 2020 election, chris. >> tim, rudy giuliani is maybe, i don't know, eviden
his aid, boris epshteyn is in the courtroom even after being indicted in arizona for the fake elector's inner circle right now? >> look, let's not forget that arizona is not the only state where there have been indictments in a fake elector scheme. you have folks indicted in michigan and in georgia and some of the same people are indicted in all three of those states, including rudy giuliani who just spoke out about this. take a listen. >> what's the purpose of it? i mean, do you...
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jenna ellis his former campaign attorney, john eastman, mike roman, boris epshteyn, and another person who's actually gotten a political promotion of sorts. and the time since christina bobb, you might remember that name christina bobb. she's a former oan anchor, host, tv personality, but she was also one of the key people pushing these election fraud claims, including an arizona she's indicted alongside jake hoffman and was recently appointed as the lead counsel for election integrity at the rnc. so again, the rnc, the national the national party, the republican national party, really hugging some of these people please key players from the bid to overturn the 2020 election. and it's hard to not notice the parallels between what donald trump himself, even though he's not indicted in arizona, what he's been saying about these investigations and these indictments related to the 2020 election. i'm going to read jake hoffman's statement after he was indicted, it sounds a lot like what we've heard about trump hoffman wrote, let me be unequivocal. i am innocent of any crime. i will vigorous
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epshteyn. why is that so significant? >> yellow are the difference there has to do with george's rico statute. they conspiracy the weather was conspiracy charges written in georgia. it is a top-down sort of criminal we'll charge there in arizona. the conspiracy charges a little bit different and may help explain why it on trump is not charged in this case. also, the proximity to the 2024 election may also be a contributing factor, but i am told by a source first familiar that the investigation here in arizona is still ongoing and that was in response specifically to a question about why donald trump was not indicted. so we'll have to keep an eye on that horse, epstein, though, isn't interesting character and all this, and this is the first time he has been indicted or charged. in any of these investigations related to the 2020 election, despite the fact that there's been ample evidence that he was intimately involved in the fake electors scheme and he's even admitted it on camera himself. but e
epshteyn. why is that so significant? >> yellow are the difference there has to do with george's rico statute. they conspiracy the weather was conspiracy charges written in georgia. it is a top-down sort of criminal we'll charge there in arizona. the conspiracy charges a little bit different and may help explain why it on trump is not charged in this case. also, the proximity to the 2024 election may also be a contributing factor, but i am told by a source first familiar that the...
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if you look at boris epshteyn, he's one of them.the better part of the last year and a half as donald trump's legal adviser from the campaign. he has been working with all of the counsel from the georgia case to the federal election interference case to the classified documents case here in new york, working on ensuring that donald trump has counsel for each of these cases. also look at the fact that christina bobb is another one of those indicted individuals. last month was brought on as senior counsel for the rnc for election integrity for the 2024 election. she was indicted for her actions around the 2020 effort in arizona. of course rudy giuliani, john eastman. and send trump's slate of electors to be counted and let the courts figure it out from there. it's extensive and hits at the core of major players, including former gop chairwoman kelly ward involved with the party activism, and tyler boyar, and the chief operating officer of the charlie kirk organization, turning point usa. >> and what impact do you think that would have
if you look at boris epshteyn, he's one of them.the better part of the last year and a half as donald trump's legal adviser from the campaign. he has been working with all of the counsel from the georgia case to the federal election interference case to the classified documents case here in new york, working on ensuring that donald trump has counsel for each of these cases. also look at the fact that christina bobb is another one of those indicted individuals. last month was brought on as...
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epshteyn is still there. you still like getting fact or he's still there in that room? >> what do you what do you think that means trump case well, you got to remember todd blanche was brought in as boris is lawyer initially. and so boris brought him in to represent himself in the jack smith investigation. then he expanded his role to also cover these other cases and cod has an obvious affinity and loyalty to boris one that people like myself in jim trusty did not have so tim, i want to ask you at some of the evidence coming in now pecker is david pecker is of course, on the stand. >> at this moment, but there was something earlier that happened right before the lunch break. there was a text message between dylan howard, the editor in chief of the national enquirer, and what they describe as essentially a first-degree family member, i guess an immediate family member now, i'm going to tell you what the text says, but right now the defense raise an objection, so it's unclear whether this tax will be allowed to
epshteyn is still there. you still like getting fact or he's still there in that room? >> what do you what do you think that means trump case well, you got to remember todd blanche was brought in as boris is lawyer initially. and so boris brought him in to represent himself in the jack smith investigation. then he expanded his role to also cover these other cases and cod has an obvious affinity and loyalty to boris one that people like myself in jim trusty did not have so tim, i want to...
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epshteyn, and mike roman.rd in an investigation that has spanned more than a year. here is arizona's attorney general, chris mayes. >> i understand for some of you, this didn't come fast enough, and i'll be criticized from others for conducting this at all, but as i say here again today, i will not allow american democracy to be undermined. it's too important. >> arizona now becomes the fourth state to file criminal charges against the so-called fake electors that sought to undermine president biden's victory over trump. so, joe, we saw the video there. they also signed a fake certificate that they posted to social media. >> right. >> i mean, they were breaking the law, pretending they were the state's electors when they weren't because joe biden had won -- narrowly won, broadcasting exactly what they were doing, and now the bill has come due. >> yeah. well, i'm not a prosecutor. we have plenty of former prosecutors on and we're going to bring them on in a minute, but willie, it's a thank you so much for waiti
epshteyn, and mike roman.rd in an investigation that has spanned more than a year. here is arizona's attorney general, chris mayes. >> i understand for some of you, this didn't come fast enough, and i'll be criticized from others for conducting this at all, but as i say here again today, i will not allow american democracy to be undermined. it's too important. >> arizona now becomes the fourth state to file criminal charges against the so-called fake electors that sought to...