as maine's bowdoin college, is actually named after governor bowdoin, who purchased enslaved people. he was heavily involved in this trade and in fact, during the mid 17th century to, thomas hubbard, who is the treasurer of harvard, was involved in the slave trade. so now when you think about kind of day discussions of, slavery in university, we have our own here at south carolina. this is all kind of going back to this historical moment, right, of do people engage and create the of situations we're going to talk about the chairs of many colleges and universities like yale, rutgers, columbia university were actually established when we establish a chair, if you're a professor and you have a shared professorship, that means that some donor has invested your this with money. and the first and the earliest chairs were invested by proceeds. slave slaving voyages. this is where we get this community and connection but now i've talked a lot about kind of what people at the top were doing how they were determining people's but i want to talk a little bit now about what the people who were e