i wanted to move on to member brookter and his questions. >> thank you for that. thank you for the presentation and really no questions, really familiar with dpa on my time with the police commission. so i had an opportunity to sit through what you shared. as we bring in our ieg and even with my colleagues. in what was the key take away that we took from this, and communication, communication, communication. so i saw that in here and i think it's a good thing when you can bring folks together. and we can communication and have some of the difficult communications and create a space for us to do it, thank you. >> thank you. >> vice president carrion. >> yes. thank you for all of your work and thank you for being well-oiled-women department, i had a lot of experience with mitigation and litigation and all court of areas and i think that, depending on the mediator, it can be inxraedably positive and fruitful process. if mediation does not work, it goes back into. so when i hear about the 7%, i understand the example like this is, there really is no remedy but are the