imy next guest, hector gonzale, says bufano saved his life, and now he's devoted his entire existenceo this medicine, traveling north america, turning people on to the god particle, the sacred toad warning proof is no joke. >> smokers unprepared fortrip the trip can suffer severe psychic breakssevere. . hector gonzalez joins us now. hectorz join, why do you smoke,? >> hi, jesse. so i. i smoke too, and i workok with the medicine to bettere an my life. it gets you out of your own way so you can hear things that yout need to do better in your life. like eat better, treat people better, and do good things. >> and describe the trip for t people in colorful detail. >> there'sp a great void, and there's a period of time of two or 3 minutes where you get profound insights. a primary religious experience to help guide you in your life. >> so this is church for you. this is 110% in my religious belief. and it is a church. yes. >>s ef andare there any negative sie effects to toad smoking? >> absolutely, yes. if someone were on ssri medications or on any kind of other medicatioe weren, it'sr for