we are talking with father kevin kennedy and father cameron faller about the life of a priest. we had an ominous question coming, a pretty good one. what is success for a priest? i think we know what success for a baseball player is, but what is success for a priest? and by the same token, what is failure? can you address those things? >> we were talking this morning about one of my favorite films and one of my mother's favorite films from 1944. the keys of the kingdom. and gregory peck plays a priest who is presumably a failure in his first two assignments and he is sent to be a missionary in china. yet he ends up touching the hearts of many people. the lives of many people, through his gentleness, humility, authenticity. he embodies the rest of the priesthood. even though it was a fictional character, he is the best of vincent de paul and so many others who embodied the best of what it is to pattern their lives after the heart of the lord. learn from me, for i am gentle and humble of heart. if a person with that kind of a heart touches the soul of another human being, he is a