and i'm joined now in our studio in westminster by reform mp lee anderson . news coming from france today , place you from france today, place you spent quite a bit of time in the migrant camps , a young man migrant camps, a young man tragically stabbed to death in dunkirk . have your experience dunkirk. have your experience over there. i bet you're not surprised that these kind of incidents are kicking off. >> not surprised, martin, to be honest with you, when we was there, i think it was last year, january message coming january 2023, the message coming out loud and clear from the, the local police and local politicians that we were speaking to on the ground is that there's a lot of crime in these camps. >> there's gangs. there's, you know, there's attacks. there's, some sex crimes, unfortunately, the talent that there in calais, where we went. lots of crime there. >> break—ins thefts, etc. >> break—ins thefts, etc. >> and the sad part is , martin, >> and the sad part is, martin, we've got these criminals, these criminal activity in these in these camps, in