some of us are martin and some of us are carrabba. it's okay. the bold advocacy, the person at the front of the room, the that is a public figure and then there's those of us that are in that quiet strength in the background. the strategy, the logical thinking, making it all makes sense. so, my friend from venezuela over here i'm going too pick on you because you had a question. you don't have to, but if you want to share what you're reflections was and then ask a question, go ahead. >> [inaudible] i connected a lot with the reflection over the question that was asked over there. because often times [inaudible] often times as human rights activists we are often times in positions we make decisions of power but we don't connect with vulnerable people. i know everyone here does, yes. but our mission is to teach people that are not in this room right now. in my experience i lived in ecuador for five years and there i thought i learned what we needed to help immigrants who were fleeing from one dictatorship walking through countries, going through a