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christian. so, lisa, let's start with the charging conference. how exactly does it work and what is the significance? >> well, catherine and chuck, as experienced prosecutors, know this better than i do. but when we come to this charging conference this afternoon, it is like an oral argument on jury instructions is how would i explain it to viewers. they have prepared draft instructions that are already with judge merchan. i should note they're not publicly available yet. and then they'll essentially have argument on those things about which there are no agreement and the judge will hear from both sides as to whether or why he should instruct jurors a particular way. one thing that i expect to be an issue this afternoon has to do with a particular phrase in the statute at issue. i should note there is only really one crime that is being charged here 34 times. it is new york penal law 175.10 and it says simply this, a person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree when he com
christian. so, lisa, let's start with the charging conference. how exactly does it work and what is the significance? >> well, catherine and chuck, as experienced prosecutors, know this better than i do. but when we come to this charging conference this afternoon, it is like an oral argument on jury instructions is how would i explain it to viewers. they have prepared draft instructions that are already with judge merchan. i should note they're not publicly available yet. and then they'll...
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also with us, catherine christian and scott sundby. now they're going over in the courtroom a series of texts back and forth. tell us about what this is all about. >> reporter: right, they're entering into the record texts between dylan howard of the "national enquirer" and gina rodriguez, working as the manager for stormy daniels. what georgia longstreet is doing is being the conduit for entering into as evidence not only the text messages, but also several tweets of donald trump, particularly right now ones from 2018. ones that came after it was revealed that stormy daniels $130,000 arrangement with michael cohen and part of that on may 3rd, 2018, of course this was just months after first publicly reported, this arrangement, there was a three-tweet thread that donald trump said in part, mr. cohen, an attorney received a monthly retainer, not from the campaign, and had nothing to do -- having nothing do with the campaign from which he entered into through reimbursement of private contract between two parties known as a nondisclosure
also with us, catherine christian and scott sundby. now they're going over in the courtroom a series of texts back and forth. tell us about what this is all about. >> reporter: right, they're entering into the record texts between dylan howard of the "national enquirer" and gina rodriguez, working as the manager for stormy daniels. what georgia longstreet is doing is being the conduit for entering into as evidence not only the text messages, but also several tweets of donald...
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and nbc eagle analyst catherine christian. catherine christian as the former assistant district attorney for the manhattan district attorneys office. welcome all. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> it is like a dramatic pause. >> get the weight of it. go ahead. >> well, can we start where we ended? and catherine, do you think that it is true that the defense has not been able to unravel the prosecution's assertion yet that donald trump was aware of the payments, and what you think about michael collins performance of a lack of a better term this week. >> let me just say, the manhattan da's office would have never brought this case, and just for lying on the testimony of cohen if they didn't believe they had enough of what he was going to say corroborated and they had enough circumstantial evidence of guilt. that is why you heard the excerpts from donald trump's book, basically describing himself as a micromanager, knowing about the paperclips, reading the invoices from the decorators. that is why you had david pecker, the na
and nbc eagle analyst catherine christian. catherine christian as the former assistant district attorney for the manhattan district attorneys office. welcome all. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> it is like a dramatic pause. >> get the weight of it. go ahead. >> well, can we start where we ended? and catherine, do you think that it is true that the defense has not been able to unravel the prosecution's assertion yet that donald trump was aware of the payments,...
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back with us, vaughn hillyard, andrew weissman and catherine christian. trump's team is trying to show in cross that business in the trump organization drastically changed after he won the presidency and everyone was still adjusting in 2017. what did he miss in the last couple of minutes? >> reporter: right. and also acknowledging that michael cohen had formally left the trump organization and was working in an outside capacity as donald trump's personal attorney. or at least that's what he testified his understanding of cohen's role in 2017 to be, but also the defense team for donald trump right now under cross-examination with jeffrey mcconney is hitting at the heart of what he did not say under questioning from the prosecution. in one of those changes were explicitly quote, president trump did not ask you to do any of the things you just described. mcconney responded, quote, he did not. so this is where the, you know, for the prosecution, they're using the handwriting in the ledger, the invoices, and the understanding of mcconney saying that he made an
back with us, vaughn hillyard, andrew weissman and catherine christian. trump's team is trying to show in cross that business in the trump organization drastically changed after he won the presidency and everyone was still adjusting in 2017. what did he miss in the last couple of minutes? >> reporter: right. and also acknowledging that michael cohen had formally left the trump organization and was working in an outside capacity as donald trump's personal attorney. or at least that's what...
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for the manhattan district attorney's office and msnbc legal analyst, catherine christian. thank you for listening to the control booth, and not me. i actually needed to talk to you some more. here we go, yasmin, with you having been inside the court yesterday, there was a pretty shocking moment where donald trump was admonished for curses audibly while stormy daniels testified about their alleged sexual encounter. what happened? >> it was hard to know what was happening. i can't necessarily see the front of donald trump's face. i was just about six rows back looking directly at the back of his head, alex, and many times throughout stormy daniels' testimony, you heard or saw donald trump whispering to todd blanche to his left, and oftentimes when there was a bench meeting or a pull aside, bove would get into blanche's seat and talk trump through what was happening, while discussing things with judge juan merchan. as we look back at the transcript, we can understand what was happening at some of the bench meetings, and we came to learn in the moments that she was testifying
for the manhattan district attorney's office and msnbc legal analyst, catherine christian. thank you for listening to the control booth, and not me. i actually needed to talk to you some more. here we go, yasmin, with you having been inside the court yesterday, there was a pretty shocking moment where donald trump was admonished for curses audibly while stormy daniels testified about their alleged sexual encounter. what happened? >> it was hard to know what was happening. i can't...
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i can't wait to see what happens next e. >> and catherine christian, in about 30 seconds, they've left for lunch, she walked out. she didn't even look at the camera. she just went right by. excuse me, trump did. trump left and did not look at the camera, and she's clearly not talking. >> the defense is hoping they get a little bit of their cross examination n. why? because the prosecutor can't speak to her then. they want to start a little bit of that this afternoon. >> mary mccord, this is a pretty powerful way to take the lunch break on a friday. >> it absolutely is. it is going to be a slightly early adjournment today at 3:45, but that still gives them a couple of hours after luchlk. i think we'll hear a lot more. defense is going to hope they can get to cross examination. i'm not sure that's going to happen today. >> thanks to you, mary mccord, to catherine christian, vaughn hillyard, peter alexander, david henderson, and victoria defrancesco soto and of course ashley parker, thanks to all, an extraordinary friday. that does it for us for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports."
i can't wait to see what happens next e. >> and catherine christian, in about 30 seconds, they've left for lunch, she walked out. she didn't even look at the camera. she just went right by. excuse me, trump did. trump left and did not look at the camera, and she's clearly not talking. >> the defense is hoping they get a little bit of their cross examination n. why? because the prosecutor can't speak to her then. they want to start a little bit of that this afternoon. >> mary...
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joining us now nbc news legal analyst catherine christian. she's a former assistant district attorney right there in manhattan. catherine, thanks for starting us off this morning. so the defense team will continue its questioning of michael cohen tomorrow. but in your judgment how is he doing so far under cross-examination? did the defense score any points yesterday? >> well, the only points if you call it points is michael cohen on direct examination was a very mellow polite yes, ma'am, no, ma'am. answered every question, you know, yes or no. on his cross there was a lot of it sounds like something i could say, i don't recall. so he wasn't as, you know, yes, ma'am, no, ma'am. i think he said yes, sir once. what todd blanche, trump's attorney is trying to do i think "the times" said it right. he's guided by hatred, he's a jilted former employee. but he's more than a former employee, which does explain his hatred. and it's okay that michael cohen hates donald trump. the jury just has to believe that just because he hates him, that doesn't mean
joining us now nbc news legal analyst catherine christian. she's a former assistant district attorney right there in manhattan. catherine, thanks for starting us off this morning. so the defense team will continue its questioning of michael cohen tomorrow. but in your judgment how is he doing so far under cross-examination? did the defense score any points yesterday? >> well, the only points if you call it points is michael cohen on direct examination was a very mellow polite yes, ma'am,...
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catherine christian, another msnbc legal analyst, former prosecutor paul butler and former u.s. attorney paul charlton. katy, to you. three notes in total. what are the key portions the jurors wanted to hear for a second time? did donald trump react at all? >> reporter: donald trump didn't react at all to get that over with. he sat there, slumped low in his chair. his eyes were closed for much of the reading of the testimony. he wasn't sleeping. he would open them up, readjust his tie. but he acted as he acted throughout the trial. leaning back and shutting his eyes. the jury wanted to hear the jury instructions over again, a portion. they wanted to hear four key points of testimony. it was testimony regarding michael cohen and david pecker, a phone call that david pecker had about karen mcdougal with michael cohen where pecker said he would tear up the rights. michael cohen said the boss will be angry. pecker is asked, who did you assume the boss to be? the boss was donald trump. a phone call between donald trump and david pecker regarding pay. then essentially, most essentiall
catherine christian, another msnbc legal analyst, former prosecutor paul butler and former u.s. attorney paul charlton. katy, to you. three notes in total. what are the key portions the jurors wanted to hear for a second time? did donald trump react at all? >> reporter: donald trump didn't react at all to get that over with. he sat there, slumped low in his chair. his eyes were closed for much of the reading of the testimony. he wasn't sleeping. he would open them up, readjust his tie....
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joining us now nbc news legal analyst catherine christian. she is a former assistant district attorney in manhattan. catherine, thank you so much for joining us this morning. first let's start with the closing arguments. give us your evaluation of each. >> well, of each i think the defense did what they had to do, they worked with what they had. and all they really have is michael cohen is a liar. that's really all they had. they had to keep stressing that over and over and over again because there is no narrative. there's been criticism of the defense argument and there is no narrative because they didn't have any other narrative other than don't believe michael cohen, and the records aren't false because michael cohen isn't a lawyer, and when you pay a lawyer they're all legal expenses. so that's what they had. and in terms of a defense argument and generally this is most defense arguments, you're hoping obviously for an acquittal, but the next best thing is a hung jury. for the prosecution they work with what they have, which was a lot, a
joining us now nbc news legal analyst catherine christian. she is a former assistant district attorney in manhattan. catherine, thank you so much for joining us this morning. first let's start with the closing arguments. give us your evaluation of each. >> well, of each i think the defense did what they had to do, they worked with what they had. and all they really have is michael cohen is a liar. that's really all they had. they had to keep stressing that over and over and over again...
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joining me now is msnbc legal analyst catherine christian. she is a former assistant district attorney at the manhattan d.a.'s office. let's start with this, after much anticipation, trump's former fixer, his former attorney michael cohen, took the stand this week and helped prosecutors further corroborate their case. how do you think cohen's testimony helped the prosecution's case? >> if the goal of the defense attorneys were to destroy him, he hasn't been destroyed. he -- the jury already knew, because the prosecutors told them in jury selection, told them throughout their witnesses that this was a floored person, this was a person who has lied in the past and just for the fact that he worked for donald trump would make him a flawed person anyway. so they were prepared for that. the only inroads that maybe the defense made was the last day that they were -- mr. cohen was on cross examination when he either was untruthful or he was mistaken about when he had a conversation with donald trump about stormy daniels, and we will find out from the
joining me now is msnbc legal analyst catherine christian. she is a former assistant district attorney at the manhattan d.a.'s office. let's start with this, after much anticipation, trump's former fixer, his former attorney michael cohen, took the stand this week and helped prosecutors further corroborate their case. how do you think cohen's testimony helped the prosecution's case? >> if the goal of the defense attorneys were to destroy him, he hasn't been destroyed. he -- the jury...
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and joining us now is nbc legal analyst catherine christian. thank you so much for joining us. let's start with keith davidson's testimony. defense tried to paint him as an extortionist, participating in a sleazily shakedown of donald trump, asking for big bucks. let me ask you, do you think they were successful? and if so what impact do you think his testimony will have? >> they were successful and extortion is a crime and he would have been convicted of that. they were successful in painting him as a sleazy lawyer but more important for the defense he never dealt directly with donald trump, he always dealt with michael cohen. they also were successful in having davidson question the credibility of cohen and also put in the jurors mind they already knew this from opening statements in vor dire but even more michael cohen has an axe to grind, that he was so upset donald trump didn't take him to the white house. witness after witness the prosecution are not going to wrap their arms around michael cohen and say he's a great guy. their going to say you can believe him because othe
and joining us now is nbc legal analyst catherine christian. thank you so much for joining us. let's start with keith davidson's testimony. defense tried to paint him as an extortionist, participating in a sleazily shakedown of donald trump, asking for big bucks. let me ask you, do you think they were successful? and if so what impact do you think his testimony will have? >> they were successful and extortion is a crime and he would have been convicted of that. they were successful in...
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back with us, adam pollock and catherine christian. we're looking at the same transcript and trying to decipher it. emil bove is trying to punch into this. what was the prosecution doing at first, playing this phone call and having michael cohen say what about me, what about me, what about me, and he keeps saying we did it. >> the prosecution is trying to bring mr. trump into it. so i said before that we so far, no one is saying that trump is directly involved with ms. daniels in the payoff or this lawyer. this is a back way. keith davidson saying michael cohen told him that, and he can't even say that michael cohen told him it was trump. if his belief, he believes it's trump. if i'm a defense attorney, i'll tear through that. your belief, the re-cross will be really? >> what makes you think it's donald trump. you might think it. you don't know it. also i'm struck by the tone of michael cohen here, this scorned lover that the defense wants to use to their advantage. does the prosecution have a problem? because michael cohen has been ve
back with us, adam pollock and catherine christian. we're looking at the same transcript and trying to decipher it. emil bove is trying to punch into this. what was the prosecution doing at first, playing this phone call and having michael cohen say what about me, what about me, what about me, and he keeps saying we did it. >> the prosecution is trying to bring mr. trump into it. so i said before that we so far, no one is saying that trump is directly involved with ms. daniels in the...
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reverend sharpton, katie phang, catherine christian, thank you all very much. check out "politics nation" where reverend al sharpton has big guests this weekend including exonerating central park five member yusef salaam. this is exactly the person i want to talk to. also, former trump lawyer michael cohen. i'm going to come sit in the studio during rev's show because this is literally the people i want to hear from. thank you, rev. >>> up next on "the reidout" -- maga world's response to trump's guilty verdict is, yes, just as unhinged as you would expect. before we go to the break, responsed to the verdict in arizona. >> i think this is going to help trump because the people who were undecided and more middle of the road probably see this as a political persecution. >> i think it's such a close election, this could throw the electorate in a different direction. you know, people may not want to elect a convicted felon. oooh! i can't wait for this family getaway! shingles doesn't care. shingles is a painful, blistering rash that can last for weeks. ahhh, there'
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catherine christian. thank you for being with us. did i explain those basics of what comes next, the probation report, the sentencing phase and what we can likely expect from the face, is that correct as you understand it? >> it is correct except you will probably see donald trump's lawyers file a motion to set aside the verdict which is allowed before sentencing. it's under the criminal procedure law, 340 motion. they will file it and the prosecution will have a chance to respond to it and then judge merchan will make a decision on that. that often will delay the sentence . everything else, the probation data that doesn't mean he's getting probation but they are tasked with doing the report for the sentencing, for the judge to determine what is the appropriate sentencing. except for that filing of the motion to set aside the verdict, it will go according to how it always is for regular defendants. >> the filing of the motion to set aside the verdict, that is separate from and in addition to the oral motion we heard in the court toda
catherine christian. thank you for being with us. did i explain those basics of what comes next, the probation report, the sentencing phase and what we can likely expect from the face, is that correct as you understand it? >> it is correct except you will probably see donald trump's lawyers file a motion to set aside the verdict which is allowed before sentencing. it's under the criminal procedure law, 340 motion. they will file it and the prosecution will have a chance to respond to it...
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catherine christian. thanks for being with us on this let me ask if i've explained those asics of what comes next. the probationary report, the sentencing phase, and what we can likely expect from that phase is that all correct, as you understand it >> it is correct except you will probably see donald trump's lawyers file a motion to set aside the verdict, which is allowed before sentencing. it is under the criminal procedure laws, 330 motion. so that could delay the sentence because they are going to file it and then, of course, the prosecution will have a chance to respond to it and then judge merchan will make a decision on that. so that often will delay the sentence. everybody else, the probation, probation doesn't mean he is io getting probation, they are just the ones tasked with doing the report for the sentencing, e for the judge to determine what is the appropriate sentencing. so except for that one little filing of the motion to set aside the verdict, it will go according to how it always is for
catherine christian. thanks for being with us on this let me ask if i've explained those asics of what comes next. the probationary report, the sentencing phase, and what we can likely expect from that phase is that all correct, as you understand it >> it is correct except you will probably see donald trump's lawyers file a motion to set aside the verdict, which is allowed before sentencing. it is under the criminal procedure laws, 330 motion. so that could delay the sentence because they...
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let's bring in msnbc legal analyst and former assistant manhattan district attorney catherine christian and former public corruption unit chief for the southern district of new york, ar low devlin brown. good to see you both. catherine, we're at the end of this trial, so this appellate court ruling saying, no, we're not going to move the trial. that claim or that request is rejected. no, judge merchan can stay on this case. a lot of these people kind of forgot these things were still lingering. so the timing is interesting, but at the bottom line here is this just proof that trump and his legal team is running out of options to defend this? >> they have no options. obviously they do if there's a conviction, then obviously they will appeal that. this was just the appellate division quite frankly tieing up loose ends. we're not moving the case. as you said, it's already over. they made no -- the defense -- the jury was chosen in two days. the people who said they couldn't be fair and impartial were removed, so clearly he can get a fair trial in new york. and in terms of judge merchan recu
let's bring in msnbc legal analyst and former assistant manhattan district attorney catherine christian and former public corruption unit chief for the southern district of new york, ar low devlin brown. good to see you both. catherine, we're at the end of this trial, so this appellate court ruling saying, no, we're not going to move the trial. that claim or that request is rejected. no, judge merchan can stay on this case. a lot of these people kind of forgot these things were still lingering....
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catherine christian put it well earlier today. the case really comes down to -- i'm sorry, her role, stormy daniels' role, it really comes down to one sentence. was she paid money to remain quiet about an affair that she had with mr. trump and obviously paid just before the 2016 presidential election. it would be wonderful if mr. weisselberg were available and truthful and cooperative. apparently none of those things are true. the government would have to be very careful about immunizing someone like him and probably thinks that they have other ways to prove the documents at issue in this case, the assistant bookkeeper, rebecca manochio is one such way. this is what they need to prove. stormy daniels was important for some context and little else, and again, i agree completely with renato. i thought the cross examination of stormy daniels was a long walk through dry sand, if anything it only enabled her to tell her story over and over and over and may have made her more sympathetic to the jury. >> but, chuck, i know it's hard to i
catherine christian put it well earlier today. the case really comes down to -- i'm sorry, her role, stormy daniels' role, it really comes down to one sentence. was she paid money to remain quiet about an affair that she had with mr. trump and obviously paid just before the 2016 presidential election. it would be wonderful if mr. weisselberg were available and truthful and cooperative. apparently none of those things are true. the government would have to be very careful about immunizing...
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and catherine christian is still with us r. before we get into the what is the delay question, i read back some of the testimony the jury is likely to hear. this is regarding david pecker's meeting at trump tower, and there was something in it that stood out to you, catherine. >> which i forgot and maybe some jurors forgot. at that meeting, donald trump suggested david pecker help for his campaign. those words came out of donald trump's mouth, if we believe david pecker, so as josh stein glass said yesterday over and over and over, this was all about the campaign to promote his election by unlawful means. >> at that meeting, donald trump and michael cohen asked me what i can do and what my magazines could do to help the campaign. duncan, in looking, also welcome, in looking at the four questions that the jury that has, does anything stand out to you? is there any through line? >> the through line is that these are all things that involve donald trump, so there's a lot of testimony in this trial about michael cohen doing things,
and catherine christian is still with us r. before we get into the what is the delay question, i read back some of the testimony the jury is likely to hear. this is regarding david pecker's meeting at trump tower, and there was something in it that stood out to you, catherine. >> which i forgot and maybe some jurors forgot. at that meeting, donald trump suggested david pecker help for his campaign. those words came out of donald trump's mouth, if we believe david pecker, so as josh stein...
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former manhattan assistant district attorney catherine christian, and trial attorney terry austin who has also been in that courthouse. so suzanne, there was a moment yesterday that really stands out in the seven-plus hours of cross examination of cohen. that is when blanche pressed cohen about a key phone call that cohen said he had with trump about the stormy daniels payments in 2016. blanche getting animated saying that was a lie. you did not talk to president trump on that night. you talked to keith schiller. >> cohen, i'm not certain that is accurate. >> blanche goes on, we're not asking for your belief. this jury does not want to hear what you think happened. you were watching this. how tense was that exchange? >> it was a moment no question. i mean, and what preceded it was hours laying the groundwork that michael cohen is a liar. he's not a casual liar. he's lied to congress. he's lied on the stand, and they want you to believe he's now going to lie under oath. it went on for hours, and it really -- i was interested in it because it didn't really have a lot to do with the case
former manhattan assistant district attorney catherine christian, and trial attorney terry austin who has also been in that courthouse. so suzanne, there was a moment yesterday that really stands out in the seven-plus hours of cross examination of cohen. that is when blanche pressed cohen about a key phone call that cohen said he had with trump about the stormy daniels payments in 2016. blanche getting animated saying that was a lie. you did not talk to president trump on that night. you talked...
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also with us, msnbc legal correspondent and host katie phang along with catherine christian, former assistant manhattan district attorney. kristy greenberg, former federal prosecutor and sdny criminal division deputy chief. and harry litman, former deputy assistant attorney general. yasmin, i want to go right to the courthouse. let's start with what we heard from the jurors in this new note today. >> reporter: so we needed clarification on what they wanted out of jury instructions, right? we didn't know if they wanted the entirety of the jury instructions read back to them after yesterday's note or they wanted a portion. it turns out they wanted a portion. they essentially wanted what the jury considers as evidence in the lead up to count one. that's really the entirety of all of the instructions, if you remember the judge in his initial instructions did not go through every count, and that was in order to save time because all of the instructions together took an hour and 15 minutes. so that's exactly what he's doing now. the lead up to count one, what the jury can consider as evidence. it's
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nicolle wallace, chris hayes, ari melber, jen psaki, and catherine christian. special coverage of trump on trial begins. >>> good evening and thank you for joining us for our msnbc prime time recap of the criminal trial of former president trump. i am here along with my colleagues lawrence o'donnell, katie phang, nicolle wallace, chris hayes. today's proceedings, unexpectedly to me were like that helpful moment in the old agatha christie style british detective story. you've been following along, more or less, and you know who most of the characters are. you can remember most of their names. you know the basic plot of the mystery, but then, there is this great health a moment in the story where the detective sits down under some stupid pretends with some other character. in their conversation, they give you all the answers. it is okay you have not been paying close attention along, they in this conversation will recap the whole story. not only will they get to the big answer, the big whodunit, think of the solutions to all the other little mysteries and red her
nicolle wallace, chris hayes, ari melber, jen psaki, and catherine christian. special coverage of trump on trial begins. >>> good evening and thank you for joining us for our msnbc prime time recap of the criminal trial of former president trump. i am here along with my colleagues lawrence o'donnell, katie phang, nicolle wallace, chris hayes. today's proceedings, unexpectedly to me were like that helpful moment in the old agatha christie style british detective story. you've been...
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christian, analyst and former d.a. at the manhattan district attorney's office. the jury heard about scandal after scandal. what stood out to you?>> this week we heard from hope hicks, she was very close to trump, she was very emotional. to the jurors, those emotions may be made her a little bit more credible. with her testimony, we are getting closer and closer to the hush money payment. she talked about the reaction inside the trump white house in 2018 to the repayment, and she really connects trump to the repayment, saying she said trump told her michael cohen paid daniels out of the kindness of her heart, and that one moment a prosecutor says do you really think michael cohen would do this out of the kindness of his heart? she admits no, probably not. that was a moment that stood out to me.>> heading into the trial, people were questioned on whether this is a hush money case or an election interference case. has the testimony built out that part of the case?>> it has built out the rationale for hushing up miss dani
christian, analyst and former d.a. at the manhattan district attorney's office. the jury heard about scandal after scandal. what stood out to you?>> this week we heard from hope hicks, she was very close to trump, she was very emotional. to the jurors, those emotions may be made her a little bit more credible. with her testimony, we are getting closer and closer to the hush money payment. she talked about the reaction inside the trump white house in 2018 to the repayment, and she really...
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catherine christian, former assistant district attorney. she is now an msnbc legal analyst and neil is here, department of justice veteran and former acting solicitor general. george, you were our eyes and ears in the courtroom today. >> there was not much that was said about the gag order. it was a written opinion and we did not actually have the judge read it in court other than to say, i rolled nine out of 10 for the prosecution. >> why, he didn't want to waste time? >> you wanted to get straight to the trial and i think a lot of the stuff we just heard about what was in the opinion, we did not actually here in open court but that obviously was very significant because he is going to have more to say on this next week when the second round or third round of gag order violations is going to be discussed and i think that it is significant that he mentioned the possibility of jail. he's not going to impose it for this next series of events because it occurred before he issued this opinion but i think he is probably, if i had to guess, he's
catherine christian, former assistant district attorney. she is now an msnbc legal analyst and neil is here, department of justice veteran and former acting solicitor general. george, you were our eyes and ears in the courtroom today. >> there was not much that was said about the gag order. it was a written opinion and we did not actually have the judge read it in court other than to say, i rolled nine out of 10 for the prosecution. >> why, he didn't want to waste time? >> you...
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in those two cases, catherine christian, she's making the point that you didn't see everything either in the "in touch" article or the interview on "60 minutes." why might that be important? >> it's proving to the jury that the defense attorney put in facts favorable to her client but omitted facts not favorable. left out information that's more helpful to the prosecution. >> that's something jurors really clue into easily? >> because they wonder, oh, so you are being a little slick here with me, some jurors will think that. that's why a good prosecutor will get up and rehabilitate miss daniels by bringing up the fact there were things omitted. >> i'm interested in your take on her demeanor and the way she's answering the questions now from the prosecutor, compared to during cross. yes and no answers. unlike yesterday when the judge was critical of her after the jury left the room of giving too much, saying too much, giving information that had not been asked. she was not a great witness in that regard, because she went into some troublesome areas. today, she seems to be clearly someo
in those two cases, catherine christian, she's making the point that you didn't see everything either in the "in touch" article or the interview on "60 minutes." why might that be important? >> it's proving to the jury that the defense attorney put in facts favorable to her client but omitted facts not favorable. left out information that's more helpful to the prosecution. >> that's something jurors really clue into easily? >> because they wonder, oh, so...
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also with us is former assistant district attorney in manhattan and msnbc legal analyst, catherine christian, former assistant district attorney of the manhattan d.a.'s office, daniel horowitz, and former federal prosecutor and criminal defense attorney, duncan levin. when i was in the overflow room, i could donald trump, the prosecution, the defense, the judge, the woman playing the michael cohen and david pecker roles, reading back the testimony. i could not see the jury. what insight do we have about the jury and what they were doing this morning as they were getting back the jury instructions but also getting back that key testimony? >> the ever important jury, right, that's what everyone is focused on right now when it comes to what's happening inside that courtroom or as we should say at this point, what's happening inside that deliberation room, if any of us could be a fly on the wall, what we would hear. as these jury instructions were being read back to the jury, as parts of this testimony from both david pecker and michael cohen were being read back to the jury, i am being told fro
also with us is former assistant district attorney in manhattan and msnbc legal analyst, catherine christian, former assistant district attorney of the manhattan d.a.'s office, daniel horowitz, and former federal prosecutor and criminal defense attorney, duncan levin. when i was in the overflow room, i could donald trump, the prosecution, the defense, the judge, the woman playing the michael cohen and david pecker roles, reading back the testimony. i could not see the jury. what insight do we...
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catherine christian is the former unit chief at the manhattan district attorney's office. harry lippmann is a former u.s. attorney and christy greenberg's former deputy chief of the fdny criminal division. this all felt like it happened quite quickly. that may be how it always happens in a trial when you're getting a verdict. did anything surprise you, how the jury ruled? >> the verdict itself did not surprise me and i thought they would run the table with a couple of little exceptions, they were similar counts but we've been saying all the way through, i was, but so many people were, the prosecution had a story, a compelling one, and the through line from the trump tower meeting to michael: , so the defense just did not seem to be able to repair that and when it got to the very end, so yesterday, they did conscientious but quick work. when we had those teasers on the transcript they were consistent with starting chronologically and going through, they were consistent with trying to figure out whether to corroborate michael cohen but they were also most consistent with and
catherine christian is the former unit chief at the manhattan district attorney's office. harry lippmann is a former u.s. attorney and christy greenberg's former deputy chief of the fdny criminal division. this all felt like it happened quite quickly. that may be how it always happens in a trial when you're getting a verdict. did anything surprise you, how the jury ruled? >> the verdict itself did not surprise me and i thought they would run the table with a couple of little exceptions,...
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catherine christian, and former prosecutor and criminal defense attorney, duncan levin. joyce, to you. judge cannon's 1:30 hearing is on a motion to dismiss the indictment because of alleged procedural failures. this is the second time they tried that. what are they arguing? do you think the judge will go for it? what do we think of the way she's scheduling the pretrial hearings and has canceled the trial date? >> right. this is a judge who let motions sit and sort of fester on her desk instead of dealing with them. then she used that backlog as an excuse for further delaying the trial. andrea, prosecutors will tell you, federal prosecutors who have done this kind of case -- i'm one of one -- that this could have been ready by last december or at least by january. the delay is all on the judge. the motion that she's considering this afternoon is sort of a classic example. this is a technical legal motion. in essence saying that prosecutors indicted something that doesn't add up to a crime. it's the motion that most judges would dismiss out of hand. judge cannon is hearin
catherine christian, and former prosecutor and criminal defense attorney, duncan levin. joyce, to you. judge cannon's 1:30 hearing is on a motion to dismiss the indictment because of alleged procedural failures. this is the second time they tried that. what are they arguing? do you think the judge will go for it? what do we think of the way she's scheduling the pretrial hearings and has canceled the trial date? >> right. this is a judge who let motions sit and sort of fester on her desk...
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joining us now, catherine christian, former assistant district attorney in manhattan d.a.s office, and msnbc legal analyst, and former federal prosecutor for the doj and senior writer at politico magazine. welcome back to the sunday show, we are starting with you. tuesday is the last chance for each side to make its case to the jury in your latest article you relay, and i'm quoting, in order to establish trump guilt on felony charges, prosecutors have to play all 12 of the jurors without a reasonable doubt that trump attempted to conceal another crime, such as the election loss. in the end, the case could rise or fall on that ostensibly narrow but essential and still hotly contested factual question, do you think the prosecution proved the answer to that narrow question? >> the real question is what the jurors want. i am not trying to evade the question but truly i think if i am on the jury i would have serious reservations about the state case, particularly in as much as it relies necessarily partly on cohen, who is someone who has, has lined for himself and for others, also possibly
joining us now, catherine christian, former assistant district attorney in manhattan d.a.s office, and msnbc legal analyst, and former federal prosecutor for the doj and senior writer at politico magazine. welcome back to the sunday show, we are starting with you. tuesday is the last chance for each side to make its case to the jury in your latest article you relay, and i'm quoting, in order to establish trump guilt on felony charges, prosecutors have to play all 12 of the jurors without a...
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former manhattan assistant da catherine christian. let's pick up where we left off last hour before i rushed from the courthouse. catherine, how important is this picture? >> the defense would argue we aren't saying keith schiller and donald trump weren't together. we're saying when they had a conversation they were talking about the 14-year-old crank caller. it's important for the jury, if any of them had a doubt whether or not mr. schiller or mr. trump were together, that they have confirmation of that if the judge allows the photo in. >> when you have a situation like this where so much of the key evidence is about numbers, documents, allen wiesel ber eeg picture on a piece of paper. >> it can help. anything to help michael cohen's credibility in terms of the prosecution is great. the most corroboration you can have for him will help this case, particularly if you have some jurors on the fence about, oh, i don't know if i really believe him. they can deliberate and say, but x, y and z were corroborating. >> i want to go back to the
former manhattan assistant da catherine christian. let's pick up where we left off last hour before i rushed from the courthouse. catherine, how important is this picture? >> the defense would argue we aren't saying keith schiller and donald trump weren't together. we're saying when they had a conversation they were talking about the 14-year-old crank caller. it's important for the jury, if any of them had a doubt whether or not mr. schiller or mr. trump were together, that they have...
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. >> with that, let's bring in our leadoff panel, catherine christian. she is an nbc news legal analyst and criminal defense attorney daniel ceballos and hayes brown, writer and editor for msnbc.com. thanks to all of you for getting us started this hour. catherine, i will start with you. let's start with the fact that today did not include necessarily, quote / unquote, murky names or hollywood testimony. but as we know as former prosecutors and trial lawyers, it is the details that matter. we got that through records. we have custodians of records that were coming from at&t and verizon, and there was sometime that was taken in front of the jury to get these records and enter them into evidence. you think the jury will be able to appreciate the nuances about having these records and once they go into the jury room and they are able to see the evidence? >> they will understand it monday when michael cohen testifies and testifies about phone calls that he made, phone calls that he received, text messages. so they will understand why that boring stuff was re
. >> with that, let's bring in our leadoff panel, catherine christian. she is an nbc news legal analyst and criminal defense attorney daniel ceballos and hayes brown, writer and editor for msnbc.com. thanks to all of you for getting us started this hour. catherine, i will start with you. let's start with the fact that today did not include necessarily, quote / unquote, murky names or hollywood testimony. but as we know as former prosecutors and trial lawyers, it is the details that...
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catherine christian is still with us. also with us, andrew weissmann, former lead prosecutor in robert mueller's special counsel's office. good to have all of you here. so since you just joined us, where would you pick up? >> let's just take the $60,000 that michael cohen said he stole. you know, this is the kind of thing that catherine and i when we were prosecutors and put on witnesses who had done lots of bad things, the defense wants to, and has an obligation to bring out a lot of the bad acts of what they have done before. but very often those bad acts, evidence of it is the witness, in fact, saying it himself or herself. here, michael cohen is the one who provided the evidence of it, and the amount of evidence is one single witness, michael cohen, and one of the things you will probably hear is what we used to argue to the jury, which is when michael cohen says something bad about himself, that should be believed. take it to the bank. and when he says he stole money, which, by the way, the only way people know about
catherine christian is still with us. also with us, andrew weissmann, former lead prosecutor in robert mueller's special counsel's office. good to have all of you here. so since you just joined us, where would you pick up? >> let's just take the $60,000 that michael cohen said he stole. you know, this is the kind of thing that catherine and i when we were prosecutors and put on witnesses who had done lots of bad things, the defense wants to, and has an obligation to bring out a lot of the...
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here with us in studio, criminal defense attorney, danny and catherine christian. vaughn, outside the courtroom, talk about michael cohen, the star witness. a difficult witness, a challenging witness for the prosecution. the defense is waiting to get at him in cross-examination. he's been on the stand now for more than two hours. vaughn? >> reporter: right, andrea. for the last hour, the prosecution has focused their questioning on the extent to which michael cohen was so consistent in what he says was apprising donald trump directly of the payments. not only to the door man, but mcdougal as well as stormy daniels. when it pertains to mcdougal in 2016, cohen is testifying he had ten or 12 conversations with weisselberg saying no money passed through the trump organization or donald trump without the knowledge or sign off of allen weisselberg. he said he was repeatedly engaged with weisselberg about the need to pay back that $150,000 to american media incorporated for the karen mcdougal payment. what cohen has been saying is he was keeping donald trump apprised of t
here with us in studio, criminal defense attorney, danny and catherine christian. vaughn, outside the courtroom, talk about michael cohen, the star witness. a difficult witness, a challenging witness for the prosecution. the defense is waiting to get at him in cross-examination. he's been on the stand now for more than two hours. vaughn? >> reporter: right, andrea. for the last hour, the prosecution has focused their questioning on the extent to which michael cohen was so consistent in...
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catherine christian. let's begin with andrea mitchell. bring us inside the courtroom. you saw the final arguments of this case, the final witness, i should say. what was it like to have her cross-examine him? what was the jury doing during this? >> it was extraordinary to be in this courtroom to watch donald trump walk in and his entourage with him. the former attorney general was with him, members of congressman, his white house physician, the healthy president in history or something to that effect, with no medical information provided in the white house briefing room, all of that walking in. then susan just filleted robert costello. you had to ask yourself, why did they put on robert costello as a defense witness? you know it was to say that supposedly michael cohen said to him that donald trump didn't know anything about it. that was when michael was still very much in the corner of the former president of the united states, then president of the united states. it was very clear from all of these emails that susan presented, one after another from him, all of these
catherine christian. let's begin with andrea mitchell. bring us inside the courtroom. you saw the final arguments of this case, the final witness, i should say. what was it like to have her cross-examine him? what was the jury doing during this? >> it was extraordinary to be in this courtroom to watch donald trump walk in and his entourage with him. the former attorney general was with him, members of congressman, his white house physician, the healthy president in history or something to...
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i want to bring in katie fang and tim miller and catherine christian. and ashley parker. just off the top, talk about that gag order that ana was defining and the difference between what the former president says the gag order and what it actually is. he went directly to some of the people that were involved in this case. specifically, michael cohen. didn't say his name. where is that gag order -- >> he seems to be under the belief that he doesn't say the name of the witness, that's okay. that's not okay. everyone knows he was talking about michael cohen. the fixer, the lawyer. the gag order says he has to refrain from making statements about witnesses, about their participation in the investigation or their testimony. that's what he is doing. in my -- i'm not the judge. in my opinion, he is violating the gag order, which is still in effect. the case is still open. he has been found guilty, but he hasn't been sentenced. the gag order -- he acknowledged he is under a gag order. he said it. let's see if the prosecution does anything. these statements publicly, you know, can
i want to bring in katie fang and tim miller and catherine christian. and ashley parker. just off the top, talk about that gag order that ana was defining and the difference between what the former president says the gag order and what it actually is. he went directly to some of the people that were involved in this case. specifically, michael cohen. didn't say his name. where is that gag order -- >> he seems to be under the belief that he doesn't say the name of the witness, that's okay....
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chuck rosenberg, catherine christian, and danny cevallos. yasmin, what is happening right now? >> reporter: they're talking about the calls beginning in june of 2016. this is when cohen alleges he informed the former president of the united states, his boss at the time there was a meeting between mcdougal. this was the beginning of the payoff by ami. it was october in which the payoff was made to stormy daniels, initial contact between gina rodriguez and ami was october 8th, 2016. that was about six months after this initial conversation in june when cohen informed donald trump as he alleges about the conversations between dylan howard and karen mcdougal, and their settlement of $150,000. let me read you through quickly this moment if i can. you have a recollection of a call on june 16th of 2016, with president trump, cohen says yes, sir. you called schiller and gave the phone to president trump. you don't have a specific recollection in 2016. no, sir. 1,400 a month, conservatively 14,000 calls a year in 2016 and 2017? yes, sir. you were in prison for 13 months, are we talking
chuck rosenberg, catherine christian, and danny cevallos. yasmin, what is happening right now? >> reporter: they're talking about the calls beginning in june of 2016. this is when cohen alleges he informed the former president of the united states, his boss at the time there was a meeting between mcdougal. this was the beginning of the payoff by ami. it was october in which the payoff was made to stormy daniels, initial contact between gina rodriguez and ami was october 8th, 2016. that...
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joining me now, catherine christian and also greg bowers. so welcome both. from the transcript, it sure sounds like judge merchan really chewed out todd blanche over the way that he started his cross-examination. talk to me about that. the transcript was very revealing about that side bar as he opened the cross. >> i won't repeat the quote michael cohen said about mr. blanche. >> please don't. >> but i wanted to start off with a bang and everyone has a different style. if he had said michael cohen said that about donald trump, it would one thing. but he personalized it. isn't it true that you said this about me. so it was clearly an inappropriate question and the objection should have been as it was sustained. so he wanted to start off with a bang. he did. but you start off with the first question being sustained and the objection, not a good way to start. >> did he start off with such a bang that he shot himself in the foot? >> it depends on the jury's perspective. jurors aren't experts on cross-examination, but they kind of know an effective one when they
joining me now, catherine christian and also greg bowers. so welcome both. from the transcript, it sure sounds like judge merchan really chewed out todd blanche over the way that he started his cross-examination. talk to me about that. the transcript was very revealing about that side bar as he opened the cross. >> i won't repeat the quote michael cohen said about mr. blanche. >> please don't. >> but i wanted to start off with a bang and everyone has a different style. if he...
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vaughn hillyard is outside of the courthouse, along with andrew weissmann and catherine christian who are still with us as well. so, vaughn, it's the top of the hour. i will let you top us off. >> reporter: we're looking at the 3:00 p.m. eastern hour, and michael cohen is still on the stand, and there were questions of whether michael cohen when we started the day would be off the stand by lunch hour. that's not the case as there has been of course the back and forth over potential witnesses, the back and forth over the c-span clip from october 24th. a video clip that was filmed just six minutes before that october 24th, 8:06 p.m. phone call that michael cohen testified to, that he called keith schiller with donald trump on the other end of the phone, and he has claimed that he had a conversation during that very phone call in which it was told by donald trump to go through with that $130,000 payment just in the last half hour now, they have entered that clip back into as evidence, with michael cohen testifying to keith schiller being present on that stage. but now you're looking at p
vaughn hillyard is outside of the courthouse, along with andrew weissmann and catherine christian who are still with us as well. so, vaughn, it's the top of the hour. i will let you top us off. >> reporter: we're looking at the 3:00 p.m. eastern hour, and michael cohen is still on the stand, and there were questions of whether michael cohen when we started the day would be off the stand by lunch hour. that's not the case as there has been of course the back and forth over potential...
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joining me now, dasha burns, catherine christian, and former u.s. attorney and deputy attorney general, harry lipman. dasha, walk us through the timeline. what are we expecting tomorrow? >> tomorrow morning, defense, closing arguments. then the prosecution does their closing arguments. this is not new evidence. these are not new presentations. this is both legal teams going through the key point of their arguments reminding the jurors what are the things they should keep in mind. then that's going to likely last most if not all of tomorrow. wednesday morning is a crucial moment for the jury because that's when the judge delivers his jury instructions. telling the jury basically what roadmap to follow. what they should and not take into account as they deliberate. now, this is a big deal. we left off last week with both the defense and prosecution kind of debating and arguing, making their case to the judge about what they think should be part of the jury instructions. and then jury deliberates. we could get a verdict next week. it could take longer
joining me now, dasha burns, catherine christian, and former u.s. attorney and deputy attorney general, harry lipman. dasha, walk us through the timeline. what are we expecting tomorrow? >> tomorrow morning, defense, closing arguments. then the prosecution does their closing arguments. this is not new evidence. these are not new presentations. this is both legal teams going through the key point of their arguments reminding the jurors what are the things they should keep in mind. then...
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christian and msnbc legal analyst and jeremy saland, criminal defense attorney. >> the jury went from cross-examination and redirect of stormy daniels, the key figure in the case, not legally but sort of dramatically, theatrically to an assistant bookkeeper, a young woman who worked in a supermarket before she was hired by the trump organization, and then found herself sending checks, blank checks by fedex to have 1600 pennsylvania avenue. >> and in many ways she's a more important witness than ms. daniels was because this is a falsifying business records case. and if the prosecution has this jury and the jury room debating about whether or not donald trump had sex with that woman, that's a problem. they need to be focused in on did he know what michael cohen was doing. was michael cohen rogue. did he know what cohen and weisselberg were up to. that's what they should be focusing in, not the hotel room. what happened at the trump organization and what happened at trump tower that david pecker talked about. >> maybe that's what the defense wants. maybe the defense would love it, jeremy
christian and msnbc legal analyst and jeremy saland, criminal defense attorney. >> the jury went from cross-examination and redirect of stormy daniels, the key figure in the case, not legally but sort of dramatically, theatrically to an assistant bookkeeper, a young woman who worked in a supermarket before she was hired by the trump organization, and then found herself sending checks, blank checks by fedex to have 1600 pennsylvania avenue. >> and in many ways she's a more important...
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joining us now, catherine christian, who spent over 30 years as a prosecutor, glenn kirschner is back with us who was in the courtroom today. let me just start on the shenanigans in terms of the going outside and claiming the judge as rigged it and you can't testify. this seemed to be a clever thing for judge juan merchan to do, to set the record straight in his own courtroom. >> it shows the judge is paying attention. also, you don't want, assuming there is a conviction, donald trump stating the fact that his lawyer told him that. i would have testified but my lawyer told me. on the record, the judge makes it clear. of course, we know that donald trump, it wasn't a misunderstanding, he was deliberately mistaking the fact. it also seems like there's no way he's going to testify. >> no way. >> he understands that probably looks a little bad because he said he's going to testify. it does look from the jury purposes, the jury is instructed not to read anything into the defendant not testifying. that is an airport and part of your first amendment rights. from the public, they don't have t
joining us now, catherine christian, who spent over 30 years as a prosecutor, glenn kirschner is back with us who was in the courtroom today. let me just start on the shenanigans in terms of the going outside and claiming the judge as rigged it and you can't testify. this seemed to be a clever thing for judge juan merchan to do, to set the record straight in his own courtroom. >> it shows the judge is paying attention. also, you don't want, assuming there is a conviction, donald trump...
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catherine christian, district attorney at the manhattan d.a. office. nbc legal analyst and defense attorney danny. and hayes brown, editor and writer for msnbc.com. thanks all of you for getting us started this hour. i'm going to start with you, catherine. let's talk about the fact that today did not include necessarily marquee names or blockbuster territory, but you and i both know as former prosecutors and trial lawyers is the details that matter. and we got that through records. we had custodians of records that were coming from at&t and verizon, and there was time that was taken in front of the jury to get these records entered into evidence. do you think the jury is going to be able to appreciate the nuances of having these records in once they go into the jury room and they are able to see the evidence? >> yeah, they will understand monday, if it's true, when michael cohen testifies and testifies about phone calls that he made, phone calls that he received, text messages. so they will understand why that boring stuff was really, really important.
catherine christian, district attorney at the manhattan d.a. office. nbc legal analyst and defense attorney danny. and hayes brown, editor and writer for msnbc.com. thanks all of you for getting us started this hour. i'm going to start with you, catherine. let's talk about the fact that today did not include necessarily marquee names or blockbuster territory, but you and i both know as former prosecutors and trial lawyers is the details that matter. and we got that through records. we had...
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. >> joining us this morning, catherine christian, a former prosecutor, jeremy salang, a former prosecutor. jeremy, i'm wondering what you think of these extraordinary times that we are living through and the reaction to the 34 counts. >> i think it's frightening and scary for our country. i think judge merchan has a weight on his shoulders to hold him accountable and what alvin bragg and the district attorney's will ask for. i think probation and as much as -- >> what do you mean? >> i think what really would be just and the theory of the case that he altered the election is incarceration. that would be just. that said, he is a 77-year-old man or however old he is. the former president of the united states. there are a lot of collateral ripple affects to putting him in jail. >> and currently running for president. >> he gets a conditional discharge, which means you keep him out and he has to pay back through community service to not get into trouble or whatever it may be. putting him in prison will only continue and exacerbate the issues in this nation. at some point, you have to be the b
. >> joining us this morning, catherine christian, a former prosecutor, jeremy salang, a former prosecutor. jeremy, i'm wondering what you think of these extraordinary times that we are living through and the reaction to the 34 counts. >> i think it's frightening and scary for our country. i think judge merchan has a weight on his shoulders to hold him accountable and what alvin bragg and the district attorney's will ask for. i think probation and as much as -- >> what do you...
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christian. and criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor and senior staffer in the manhattan d.a.'s office, duncan levin. i'm going to give you the first swing at the bat. we've watched cohen's testimony. followed along today. the defense is going to get their first crack at him today. what will you be watching for? >> if he continues to be as composed as he was on the direct. this is a michael cohen we didn't really know from the public record so far. he was so composed and answered the questions in a very measured kind of way. we're going to see if they can get under his skin. that's what they're going to be trying to do all day with with the cross-examination. they're going to be trying to portray him as a liar. as somebody who's really trying to pin this on trump now. that this was something that donald trump had nothing to do with. that he and allen weisselberg were acting on their own. they had weisselberg's handwriting all over this. >> literally. >> all over the bank statements and
christian. and criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor and senior staffer in the manhattan d.a.'s office, duncan levin. i'm going to give you the first swing at the bat. we've watched cohen's testimony. followed along today. the defense is going to get their first crack at him today. what will you be watching for? >> if he continues to be as composed as he was on the direct. this is a michael cohen we didn't really know from the public record so far. he was so composed and...
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catherine christian, i'm stuck on a sitting elected official, politician in the courtroom with donald trump. should i be, or is that aside from the fact, and he can bring anyone he wants in with him? and secondly, how do you think stormy daniels' testimony is holding up under cross examination, especially given some of the reaction initially to her testimony, her questions -- her answers to the prosecution seemed very detailed to the point of perhaps overly detailed. >> well, to the first question, i'd never seen a united states senator come and sit through a criminal trial. now, these jurors probably wouldn't recognize kirsten gillibrand, so they're not going to know who he is. only donald trump and his team knows who he is. as to stormy daniels holding up, the goal for the defense in this case is to attack her credibility with her bias, which she has, she said she hates him, with her interest, she does have an interest in the outcome and prior inconsistent statements and she's made many. but really, her role and the prosecutor's going to say this in the closing argument, is just to
catherine christian, i'm stuck on a sitting elected official, politician in the courtroom with donald trump. should i be, or is that aside from the fact, and he can bring anyone he wants in with him? and secondly, how do you think stormy daniels' testimony is holding up under cross examination, especially given some of the reaction initially to her testimony, her questions -- her answers to the prosecution seemed very detailed to the point of perhaps overly detailed. >> well, to the first...