uk we have the council of christians and jews (ccj), but in reality it's the council of christians for jews. it never criticizes, the jewish community never criticizes israel, it's used as a means of suppressing christian critiques of what israel does. and, if i could turn to yourself as well, and maybe first ask you the same question that, what does the zionist movement seek to achieve by engaging in such interf? and also maybe touching any uh personal experiences or professional experiences you've had when dealing with these types of events. well, as reverend ceiser was quite eloquently explaining, there's nothing wrong in principle with having interfath dialogue. in fact, you know, particularly between the three abrahamic faiths, i think there's been lots of interfaith dialogue and discussion over many centuries. this is not really something uh new, the issue is really in terms of... how the zionist movement and the state of israel in particular seeks to weaponize this term inter faith and this idea of inter faith dialogue in order to serve its own interest which really is uh has ma