reverend ceiser, if i could start. with yourself, how would you define interfaith and what are the benefits of such dialogue and events? inter faith is about people of different faiths coming together to understand one another's background. it's not about uh proslitism, it's about complementing, collaborating uh on issues of common concern, whether it's poverty uh or racism. extremism um or in case at the moment gaza, um, it's about listening rather than speaking, it's about empathizing, putting ourselves on the shoes. the other and finding what we have in common common cause and then working together to ameliorate whether it's natural disasters, human suffering or or extremism. so then what would you say the zionist movement seeks to achieve by engaging in interface, in what some have described, software strategy, why are they spending time, effort and money, perhaps speaking to people who may oppose their ideology? well, we've just been describing what i would call. into faith dialogue where we treat one another as equals, respectful and seeking to understand one another. the kind of inte