us deputy secretary of defense celeste wonder told what goal... the us is trying to achieve in ukraine. an important issue when it comes to ukraine, which in my opinion is incredibly strategic an important country. in the world, is this war even winnable? yes, and it can be done in a number of ways, for example, preventing the russians from achieving a strategic victory, or forcing a strategic defeat on them, that in itself is a victory, even if it is a temporary victory for the alliance, so in that sense we can do it together with our ukrainian partners. i think this is very important, you said earlier that the supply to ukraine is adequate. i don't like the word adequate. our support must not slow down. this idea, which is promoted by from both sides of congress that we can't win this war is crazy. we should not give them adequate help. we have to provide them with an advantage in weapons. general cavoli, if we help ukraine, what do you think their chances are of stopping the russians, at least where they are now? i think they would have a very good chance, i think they could do it,