charleton. yeah, but yes, you know, keeping organisation. charleton.ation. charleton. yeah, but jit's part know, keeping organisation. charleton. yeah, but jit's part of)w, keeping organisation. charleton. yeah, but jit's part of soft;eeping organisation. charleton. yeah, but jit's part of soft power. also it's part of soft power. and there's argument and there's an argument here that even needs that the government even needs to in and to maybe even step in and support. is one of the ways support. this is one of the ways we get british around the world. >> yeah, well, let the government money government pay the money then. right government pay the money then. rig well, we go. government pay the money then. rigwell, we go. sticking >> well, there we go. sticking with theme of children with the theme of children and the telegraph no the telegraph and louis. no wonder on antidepressants. >> yeah. because >> yeah. yeah. because this woman knows woman thinks she knows something. the leading headteacher. >> stupid. headteacher. >> leading stupid. headteacher

charleton. yeah, but yes, you know, keeping organisation. charleton.ion. charleton. yeah, but jit's part know, keeping organisation. charleton. yeah, but jit's part of)w, keeping organisation. charleton. yeah, but jit's part of soft;eeping organisation. charleton. yeah, but jit's part of soft power. also it's part of soft power. and there's argument and there's an argument here that even needs that the government even needs to in and to maybe even step in and support. is one of the ways support. this is one of the ways we get british around the world. >> yeah, well, let the government money government pay the money then. right government pay the money then. rig well, we go. government pay the money then. rigwell, we go. sticking >> well, there we go. sticking with theme of children with the theme of children and the telegraph no the telegraph and louis. no wonder on antidepressants. >> yeah. because >> yeah. yeah. because this woman knows woman thinks she knows something. the leading headteacher. >> stupid. headteacher. >> leading stupid. headteacher.

charleton. yeah, but yes, you know, keeping organisation. charleton.anisation. charleton. yeah, but jit's part know, keeping organisation. charleton. yeah, but jit's part of)w, keeping organisation. charleton. yeah, but jit's part of soft;eeping organisation. charleton. yeah, but jit's part of soft power. also it's part of soft power. and there's argument and there's an argument here that even needs that the government even needs to in and to maybe even step in and support. is one of the ways support. this is one of the ways we get british around the world. >> yeah, well, let the government money government pay the money then. right government pay the money then. rig well, we go. government pay the money then. rigwell, we go. sticking >> well, there we go. sticking with theme of children with the theme of children and the telegraph no the telegraph and louis. no wonder on antidepressants. >> yeah. because >> yeah. yeah. because this woman knows woman thinks she knows something. the leading headteacher. >> stupid. headteacher. >> leading stupid. headtea

appeared a life charleton upon me . so will life charleton upon me.o sleeps in my small way . come on. when i wish small way. come on. when i wish it could be christmas. every day . hey i'm where the game starts singing and the band begins to play singing and the band begins to play . one, one i'll wish it play. one, one i'll wish it could be christmas. every day . could be christmas. every day. let the bells ring now for christmas . love . there's no matthew laza snow . there's no matthew laza snow. what is your smile like? you know looks like things are heating up . heating up. >> boxt boilers sponsor of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello. very good evening to you. i'm alex burkill here with your latest gb news weather forecast. whilst there may be a bit hill snow across northern bit of hill snow across northern parts through the next 24 hours or it's a milder story or so, it's a milder story elsewhere still have elsewhere and we do still have some winds and some rain some strong winds and some rain around, even though deep around,

and i think, you know, comparing to the know, comparing it to the example of charleton, sort exampleust of just before puberty or just after, might be after, you know, they might be homosexual is fundamentally different three year old homosexual is fundamentally diffe might three year old homosexual is fundamentally diffe might think ee year old homosexual is fundamentally diffe might think thatear old homosexual is fundamentally diffe might think that they're, who might think that they're, you know, thomas the tank engine or disney or a power ranger or a disney princess course, princess because, of course, lots of kids think they're a tank engine or a dinosaur, and it means nothing but we're talking over ten years. talking about 70 over ten years. >> are saying that no >> are you saying that no transgender recognised >> are you saying that no transtraitorr recognised >> are you saying that no transtraitor themselves�*gnised that traitor themselves as a child? really believe that? >> well, i they might. >> well, i think they might. >> well, i think they might. >> but otherwise, if as

. >> charleton up a parsnip. >> charleton up a parsnip. >> yeah , i just hope so. >> yeah, i just hope saw you do it on headliners the other night. yeah. >> going to talk about >> we're not going to talk about that i didn't realise that because i didn't realise at the apparently the time, but apparently breaches ofcom rules, so. >> yeah. >> sorry. yeah yeah. >> sorry. yeah yeah. >> thought it making >> i thought it was making a pithy joke. and it turns out i could get fired. but this is. i mean, a lot of people have said that the bbc don't that this is the bbc don't respect viewers, i respect their viewers, but i mean, obviously, know, mean, it's obviously, you know, people in the studio. >> well, they don't respect studio. >> \acameraman, l't respect studio. >> \acameraman, obviously. it's their cameraman, obviously. it's just , isn't just an in—joke, isn't it? or having laugh the break, having a laugh in the break, except she doesn't she doesn't know to count down. she's know how to count down. she's supposed down. supposed to be counting down. and way she and she that's the way she

charleton or certainly illegal immigration to country. immigration to this country.becoming think that it's becoming a bigger issue on the left as well . and the difference is . and i think the difference is about with. about how it's dealt with. and i think maybe the left, the difference they don't difference is that they don't want baby out with want to chop the baby out with the bathwater, and baby want to chop the baby out with timean hwater, and baby want to chop the baby out with timean our:er, and baby want to chop the baby out with timean our rights and baby want to chop the baby out with timean our rights in and baby want to chop the baby out with timean our rights in this baby i mean our rights in this country, which could be used against us. >> i think as long as, you know, if british, as as if you're british, as long as you renounce your you don't renounce your citizenship then to citizenship and then try to enter you enter the country illegally, you should no , but should be fine. under no, but there are other human rights that the as well. >> it's the s

charleton or certainly illegal immigration to country. immigration to this country.becoming think that it's becoming a bigger issue on the left as well . and the difference is . and i think the difference is about dealt about how it's dealt with. and i think maybe the left, the difference they don't difference is that they don't want baby out with want to chop the baby out with the bathwater, and baby want to chop the baby out with timean hwater, and baby want to chop the baby out with timean our:er, and baby want to chop the baby out with timean our rights and baby want to chop the baby out with timean our rights in and baby want to chop the baby out with timean our rights in this baby i mean our rights in this country, which could be used against us. >> i think as long as, you know, if british, as as if you're british, as long as you renounce your you don't renounce your citizenship then to citizenship and then try to enter you enter the country illegally, you should no , but should be fine. under no, but there are other human rights that the as well. >> it's the s

there's of charleton that there's a lot of charleton that we have these debates surrounding particularlyture when the movies, instance, things movies, for instance, things like that. >> do you think that this detracts from these works of art? i we get into these debates, it can overshadow it. >> and the other thing that's been criticised about the film by people have praised it in by people who have praised it in general is that concentrates general is that it concentrates too bernstein's private too much on bernstein's private life. an absolutely life. he was an absolutely flagrantly and his wife flagrantly bisexual and his wife was very much hurt by this, as opposed to concentrating on the enormous effect of his music making and his educational programs and so on. >> it is a biopic, isn't it? >> but it is a biopic, isn't it? >> but it is a biopic, isn't it? >> this is a story for the >> yeah, this is a story for the cinema, think it is, from what cinema, i think it is, from what i've seen far. obviously it's i've seen so far. obviously it's not out yet. it's out on december, the 20th o

and i think, you know, comparing to the know, comparing it to the example of charleton, sort exampleerty just of just before puberty or just after, might be after, you know, they might be homosexual is fundamentally different three year old homosexual is fundamentally diffe might three year old homosexual is fundamentally diffe might think ee year old homosexual is fundamentally diffe might think thatear old homosexual is fundamentally diffe might think that they're, who might think that they're, you know, thomas the tank engine or disney or a power ranger or a disney princess course, princess because, of course, lots of kids think they're a tank engine or a dinosaur, and it means nothing but we're talking over ten years. talking about 70 over ten years. >> are saying that no >> are you saying that no transgender recognised >> are you saying that no transtraitorr recognised >> are you saying that no transtraitor themselves�*gnised that traitor themselves as a child? really believe that? >> well, i they might. >> well, i think they might. >> well, i think they might. >> but otherwise,

charleton or certainly illegal immigration to country. immigration to this country.becoming think that it's becoming a bigger issue on the left as well . and the difference is . and i think the difference is about dealt about how it's dealt with. and i think maybe the left, the difference they don't difference is that they don't want baby out with want to chop the baby out with the bathwater, and baby want to chop the baby out with timean hwater, and baby want to chop the baby out with timean our:er, and baby want to chop the baby out with timean our rights and baby want to chop the baby out with timean our rights in and baby want to chop the baby out with timean our rights in this baby i mean our rights in this country, which could be used against us. >> i think as long as, you know, if british, as as if you're british, as long as you renounce your you don't renounce your citizenship then to citizenship and then try to enter you enter the country illegally, you should no , but should be fine. under no, but there are other human rights that the as well. >> it's the s

well, last time our panellists eamonn charleton locked horns over the issue, so we thought we'd haveteve miller and our star amy nicholson . come on, steve, i'll nicholson. come on, steve, i'll let you go first. though ordinarily one should let ladies go first. but you're down the line, which is, i suppose, a disadvantage. um, this is faintly ridiculous, isn't it, that if people need two seats, they should pay for two seats? people who are tall don't get given extra legroom i given extra legroom an issue i feel strongly about . feel strongly about. >> think it's bonkers. >> yeah, i think it's bonkers. and what's really interesting is this week when i was talking to all of the wonderful fat people that i support , they were all that i support, they were all saying, it's the most patronising initiative that they've ever come across. they do not want a fat freebie . what do not want a fat freebie. what they want is support. they want direct support and also what they're embarrassed about is that other passengers will probably have to subbed size their fat free be it takes away their fat

charleton i think migration.robert jenrick is absolutely right that rishi's bill doesn't go far enough . and i think for go far enough. and i think for many people , myself included, many people, myself included, you look at the situation going on and on and on, dragging on. this is the best that we can do before the next general election. well, we saw how like that it was possible for the government to crack down on our civil liberties during lockdown , civil liberties during lockdown, but they can't seem to deal with this. i think that the this. so i think that the argument is being sort of argument is being made sort of in negative for leaving in the negative for leaving things like the european convention on human rights. >> well, just briefly then , do >> well, just briefly then, do you think is that what's happening right he's laying happening right now? he's laying the he's going be the groundwork. he's going to be told apparently there's a 50% chance he'll be chance that actually he'll be able get planes

well, last time our panellists eamonn charleton locked horns over the issue, so we thought we'd have miller and our star amy nicholson . come on, steve, i'll nicholson. come on, steve, i'll let you go first. though ordinarily one should let ladies go first. but you're down the line, which is, i suppose, a disadvantage. um, this is faintly ridiculous, isn't it, that if people need two seats, they should pay for two seats? people who are tall don't get given extra legroom i given extra legroom an issue i feel strongly about . feel strongly about. >> think it's bonkers. >> yeah, i think it's bonkers. and what's really interesting is this week when i was talking to all of the wonderful fat people that i support , they were all that i support, they were all saying, it's the most patronising initiative that they've ever come across. they do not want a fat freebie . what do not want a fat freebie. what they want is support. they want direct support and also what they're embarrassed about is that other passengers will probably have to subbed size their fat free be it takes away their fat fre

. >> charleton up a parsnip. >> charleton up a parsnip. >> yeah , i just hope so. >> yeah, i just hopeh. >> going to talk about >> we're not going to talk about that i didn't realise that because i didn't realise at the apparently the time, but apparently breaches ofcom rules, so. >> yeah. >> sorry. yeah yeah. >> sorry. yeah yeah. >> thought it making >> i thought it was making a pithy joke. and it turns out i could get fired. but this is. i mean, a lot of people have said that the bbc don't that this is the bbc don't respect viewers, i respect their viewers, but i mean, obviously, know, mean, it's obviously, you know, people in the studio. >> well, they don't respect studio. >> \acameraman, l't respect studio. >> \acameraman, obviously. it's their cameraman, obviously. it's just , isn't just an in—joke, isn't it? or having a in the break, having a laugh in the break, except she doesn't she doesn't know to count down. she's know how to count down. she's supposed to be counting down. and the way she and she that's the way she decided one. yeah. it's decided to do one. yeah. it's like, y

there's of charleton that there's a lot of charleton that we have these debates surrounding particularlyure when the movies, instance, things movies, for instance, things like that. >> do you think that this detracts from these works of art? i we get into these debates, it can overshadow it. >> and the other thing that's been criticised about the film by people have praised it in by people who have praised it in general is that concentrates general is that it concentrates too bernstein's private too much on bernstein's private life. an absolutely life. he was an absolutely flagrantly and his wife flagrantly bisexual and his wife was very much hurt by this, as opposed to concentrating on the enormous effect of his music making and his educational programs and so on. >> it is a biopic, isn't it? >> but it is a biopic, isn't it? >> but it is a biopic, isn't it? >> this is a story for the >> yeah, this is a story for the cinema, think it is, from what cinema, i think it is, from what i've seen far. obviously it's i've seen so far. obviously it's not out yet. it's out on december, the 20th on

has, quite it does, and it has, quite frankly, in the shape of scott benton, as far as i benton, a charleton i can maybe somebody needs to can see. maybe somebody needs to make counterargument, make the counterargument, i don't that seems quite don't know, but that seems quite clear obviously not clear to me. obviously he's not here and he here to defend himself, and he would say i'm not would absolutely say i'm not a shallow yes, i would argue that given we've and given given what we've seen and given that he probably that investigation, he probably isn't to public isn't that committed to public service. a great shame, service. and it's a great shame, um, of blackpool. um, for the people of blackpool. and you said, it's the and like you said, it's the first time i think they've picked to represent them picked a tory to represent them in constituency, in that particular constituency, if even in that particular constituency, if ever, very long if not ever, for a very long time. of course, that is time. and of course, that is thatis time. and of course, that is that is manna heaven for that is

>> is escape to victory because it had pele and sylvester stallone and i think bobby charleton all innone of these are christmas movies and also the ones that are top the top three are very old by comparison to everything else that's released 2001 for harry potter and the philosopher's stone , indiana jones. it was one stone, indiana jones. it was one of the first ones, 1984. and then grease , 1978. then grease, 1978. >> isn't that part of the fun for some people, though, to sort of nostalgia films and nostalgia films they might watch over and over again ? over again? >> i reconnected. i've reconnected with a film from the 80s called girls just want to have fun. it's proper chick have fun. it's a proper chick flick. it out. flick. check it out. >> sounds great. that sounds really, really good. well, matthew stadlen, claire muldoon, really, to you really, really good to see you both you so much. both today. thank you so much. that from britain's that is it from britain's newsroom . newsroom. >> it is. over to tom and emily. that's right, £140 million. >> that's what we expect . and >>

charleton clearly , the issue charleton but clearly, the issue was that i think i always realised andly nobody disagreed with me, that when we came out of, of lockdown, when we when we went into lockdown as , as patrick said, in, in that first important press conference on on march the 12th, you can pushit on on march the 12th, you can push it down. but but with an unimmunised population, it will bounce back. and so i always knew that throughout the summer we were basically in remission , we were basically in remission, as it were, and that the thing would come back and it was it was a very it was a very, very difficult judgement to make. >> you said that the last whatsapp in the top ten group there the page or on the there on the page or on the screen may be reflective of a secretary of state being concerned with money. isn't that your wording have we misread your wording or have we misread this? this is you saying i'm very worried about winter and him saying what's the evidence on rising new cases or is it the other way around? we can't tell from the you . from the you. >> i, i may

, is that legislation, charleton, is that anybody who is refused an asylum claim, if they were granted if they were refused an asylum claim, they deported back they would not be deported back to host, their origin to their host, their origin nafion to their host, their origin nation . they would stay in nation. they would stay in rwanda and they would work . now, rwanda and they would work. now, as understand it, adam, there as i understand it, adam, there is appetite for immigrant is a huge appetite for immigrant labour and lots of work to get weaving . on. weaving. on. >> yeah, 100. i mean, there's a lot happening in, in technology. there's a huge need for hospitality employees as people working in public sector , people working in public sector, people working in public sector, people working in public sector, people working in businesses here, small and large. i mean , you small and large. i mean, you know, don't speak for rwanda, but all i can say is that i've had positive experiences seeing the way that they are encouraging businesses and investors to come here to you know, i'm on

hizb organisation, charleton hizb ut—tahrir, were heard chanting for jihad while this doctor was givingervene in the conflict itself. a controversial all but by no means an illegal statement calling for an army to invade another country. it's charged . another country. it's charged. it's controversial rhetoric, but it's legitimate political discourse. however members of that rally did chant for jihad and there wasn't a sufficient pushback. indeed, there was no pushback. indeed, there was no pushback whatsoever from members of that organisation when that was heard. several people chanting that. and it comes, of course, in the context of the met, not dealing with people chanting for jihad met, not dealing with people chanting forjihad and receiving a lot of criticism for that at the time. but in this fresh update out monday update out on monday night, abdul wahid on talk tv saying that hamas terrorists were freedom fighters. he also failed to condemn the events of october the 7th, where hundreds of civilians were killed. some of them mutilated and brutalised in appalling circumstances dur

>> charleton, i think that's absolutely right. think it's about 27 vote against or 50, 29 vote against 57. who could abstain. so we're looking at that. ballpark figures. that. those ballpark figures. but there are groups as but there are five groups as mark francois was saying, of people on the perhaps right wing of the conservative party that have met and brought in have all met and brought in their own lawyers who have gone over legislation over the emergency legislation that by the prime that was announced by the prime minister the secretary minister and the home secretary last week, who feel, as mark was saying, that legislation saying, that the legislation doesn't there doesn't go far enough. there will others on the other side will be others on the other side of party wing, of the conservative party wing, the centrist , the more the more centrist, the more left. you will, who left. if you if you will, who think that it is a perfectly sound legislation, that it is it goes as far it goes further than any other legislation befo

. >> charleton excuse me, i was saying earlier , um, today that, saying earlier, um, today that, youut i think christmas presents a time and we're forgetting about it a lot. but christmas presents a time where, you you can be grateful you know, you can be grateful for what got . and it's for what you've got. and it's not all about materialism and going out and splashing loads of money presents. and also, you money on presents. and also, you know , getting completely know, getting getting completely drunk head. um, do drunk out of your head. um, do you we forget about you think that we forget about those privileged christmas those less privileged christmas time, or are we too sucked into this whole sort of corporate version of christmas that we now deal with year on year ? deal with year on year? >> i think some are , but i think >> i think some are, but i think majority of the british public are quite a lot more. >> consider sort of these kind of things around christmas . i of things around christmas. i think it's a it's an absolute crying shame that we're not considerate of it the r

but when he's been questioned about brexit and culture appropriation charleton that has made for veryy annoy well, which will probably annoy some , but obviously some people, but obviously be applauded others . but when applauded by others. but when you what i think he's you think of what i think he's got the stamina to last in i'm a celebrity they have had very difficult this year. difficult conditions this year. they've a of rain. two they've had a lot of rain. two of the celebrities have already walked. they've left of their own on medical reasons. own accord on medical reasons. so it just shows that what kind of a strong character nigel is and how even though you can just see there in that trial , that see there in that trial, that water that he water based trial that he doesn't like doing, just how well he carried himself. and he you disappointed you know, he was disappointed that complete the that he didn't complete the trial, carrying trial, yet he's still carrying on with really positive energy . on with really positive energy. >> do we have any idea what tonight's trial is? b

we know that prisons are at 99% capacity, so there simply isn't the space of charleton for criminalst also concerns about what these community sentences actually look like in practice. and do they do the job of rehabilitation ? rehabilitation? >> yeah. so there's. rehabilitation? >> yeah. so there's . a positive >> yeah. so there's. a positive case to be made for keeping people out of prison. the uk at the prison system in scotland and the one in england and wales jails far too many people. >> so, for example, we put 159 people jail per 100,000 in prison compared to very prison compared to our very close neighbour the republic close neighbour in the republic of who jail about 76 of ireland, who jail about 76 per 100,000. now, i don't believe for a minute the people of the uk are any more inherently criminal than the people of ireland, nor is the uk a safer place than is ireland . a safer place than is ireland. so while there's a positive case for keeping people out of prison and that's it, because we don't need to jail these people, the tory are proposing tory government are proposin

that there's there's no doubt that there's a massive of the population massive chunk of the population charletonll go running twice a week into the gym, once a week and make a token effort. >> makes you feel so much better. it's a cliche, but it does. it's so easy to have the extra bit of chocolate, but if you do the steps instead of the chocolate , feel about chocolate, you feel better about yourself . yourself. >> and so often we talk about this is of some this as if this is sort of some societal systemic thing. and it's calories in, calories out. something's going lose weight. yes. eat less, move more. >> something is going on there. right? because as said, we right? because as you said, we have fatter. and i can't have got fatter. and i can't remember when it was, but the remember when it was, but in the last so, men are last 20, 30 years or so, men are now six kilograms, six kilograms heavier we were women. five. food has become cheaper. >> food has become cheaper. contrary to a lot of media reporting, we have more sedentary jobs. we don't work in heavy all sit at heavy industry. we all sit

correctly say, there, 29 mps, a defied the government by voting to by not voting at all for the legislation charletone number required to defeat it now. but it's such a tight number. i think the whips will spend the next few weeks into this big report stage when it's looked at as a committee when they'll try and pick off those rebels one one. so it rebels slowly one by one. so it looks like i think it's now most likely to get through the house of commons and the lords will look at the majority of second reading and feel they can't really amend it. so there's now more likelihood this will be on the statute book by march, april. cleverly the april. and they mr cleverly the home did today home secretary did say today on in round that he says it's in a tv round that he says it's credible to say the first flights will take off the flights will take off in the spring, and we'll spring, in may and then we'll see. bev to your question whether it's going to work or not, know yet. the not, we don't know yet. the government hopes it government certainly hopes it will. was originally to will. the idea was origin

particular ways has allowed a sort of a more depressing view to sort of take over when you know what charletonan't even have fact that we can't even have a conversation now without people screaming one another, screaming abuse at one another, i will stop. >> that's my resolution. >> that's my resolution. >> yeah, stop screaming >> yeah, yeah, stop screaming abuse not. abuse at me, benjamin. it's not. it's bit . but it's starting to wear a bit. but let's read of lovely let's read some of your lovely emails about out. see emails about new year out. see what you're going out to. jemmy. good afternoon. jemmy oh, right. okay. girlfriend dragging good afternoon. jemmy oh, right. okay. thisrlfriend dragging good afternoon. jemmy oh, right. okay. this new1d dragging good afternoon. jemmy oh, right. okay. this new year'sragging good afternoon. jemmy oh, right. okay. this new year's eve, ng good afternoon. jemmy oh, right. okay. this new year's eve, and me out this new year's eve, and i'm tomorrow. i'm working early tomorrow. i'm going on three going to be running on three hours sleep. welcome to my wor

well so football sport , singing everything here sport, singing everything here charleton covered.f. that's aidan and much, yusuf. that's aidan and hayley there. um, yeah. looking absolutely gorgeous. well, one of them is, uh. absolutely gorgeous. well, one of them is, uh . thanks. thanks, dawn. >> cheers . >> cheers. >> cheers. >> you're watching and listening to gb news christmas eve with me. dawn neesom. lots more coming up on today's show. we'll be revived . the age old be revived. the age old traditions of ghost stories on christmas eve. plus, we'll get the lowdown on santa's whereabouts soon with our national reporter , theo national reporter, theo chikomba. all of that and much , chikomba. all of that and much, much more to come, so don't go too kettle and too far. put the kettle on and you're to gb news, you're listening to gb news, britain's channel . sunday mornings from 930 on gb news . news. >> yeah. welcome back to gb news christmas eve. merry christmas britain with me dawn neesom on your tv online and on digital radio. now, when you think of spooky stories around the

charleton really into david palm. yeah, and also philip hoy. thank you so much.the new year. thank new you thank you. happy new year, you guys. thank you. happy new year, you guys . you much. they're guys. thank you so much. they're just let me just so fun. they let me they let like this. they let me talk like this. they punch. all yeah yeah. punch. we all do. yeah yeah. >> it's right. >> yes it's right. >> yes it's right. >> listen moving on. because >> but listen moving on. because in the movies, new year's eve is full of excitement, sparkly outfits and surprise kisses at midnight. in the real world, midnight. but in the real world, new year's eve means one thing. in the new year. and with all of that, resolutions , rules, that, resolutions, rules, restrictions all that kind restrictions and all that kind of giving us the of stuff. so giving us the booze, hitting, giving up the booze, hitting, giving up the booze, hitting, giving up the booze, hitting the gym, cutting out our screen time, all that sort of stuff. ridiculous stuff. uh, them ? uh, can we stick to

it's the tobacco manufacturers association , manufacturers association, charleton.hat they can start applying a bit of pressure to the uk . also. now pressure to the uk. also. now this is and instead of banning cigarettes entirely for people born after 2009, instead just raised the limit to over 21. but i don't know. we'll have to see. i'm always very torn on smoking stuff because for me i understand the individual liberty of it, that people should be able to choose to do their own thing. but the problem is, you get ill when from is, is if you get ill when from a smoking related illness , you a smoking related illness, you put pressure the health care put pressure on the health care system it's really hard on system and it's really hard on your family. there's your family. surely there's no there's no way you can support there's no way you can support the tobacco industry now. >> smoking bad. it's bad for >> smoking is bad. it's bad for the bad for those of the nhs, it's bad for those of us who don't even smoke because you smoke. other you can you can smoke. other p

charleton massey as well. very the last very familiar face over the last 15 years or so.hat, 16 years to get to this point . and i think it's to this point. and i think it's afternoon. >> yeah. afternoon. >> oh, 1. afternoon. >> oh, absolutely . yeah. yeah, >> oh, absolutely. yeah. yeah, absolutely. there'll absolutely. but i think there'll be first be more. this will be the first of mean, we're of many. but i mean, we're talking janey frampton last talking to janey frampton last week weren't we. she said it won't immediately won't happen immediately because people trained people have to be trained properly to come properly and have to come through. they're properly and have to come throug have they're properly and have to come throug have to they're properly and have to come throug have to go they're properly and have to come throug have to go through"re gonna have to go through all that. have that. hopefully they won't have to through steps that to go through all the steps that that gone through. but that rebecca's gone through. but but forward that rebecca's gone throu

. >> charleton to sophia world. yeah, i like that sofa world. >> so we're here now.od off anyway . >> might nod off anyway. charlie, not that you're boring or anything, martin, but charlie , let's get serious again. you got sort of a daily mail true democracy. and it's our friend bofis democracy. and it's our friend boris johnson. >> it is. and i couldn't help but not pick this story because he's given a great christmas message. to yours, your message. i know to yours, your viewers is joining viewers and is joining in january, he's got his, uh, january, but he's got his, uh, column in the in the mail this weekend and effectively what he's think it's, well he's saying, i think it's, well worth read if there's worth a read if there's any essay weekend. essay to read this weekend. it is this because is probably this one, because what is the what he's talking about is the threat of democracy, particularly . i know we talked particularly. i know we talked about ukraine and russia at the first hour, but the idea that in the western world, when you have democracy, rs that ar