chelsey: for alibaba, right? honestly, i think it is important for companies to do three things, like i said, revenue growth and margin cannot decline so much. a lot of return back to the shareholders. so i think investors are quite demanding these days. market share i think is important but it depends on how you achieve that. if you just achieved by giving out subsidies, is not sustainable. but if you achieve by lowering what consumers consume, i think, and also offering competitively priced products, these are the winning recipes. so to achieve market share through that, and then with market share, you can have better line share. then i think tech rate will come naturally. so i think these are the ways how e-commerce companies should work on. paul: i want to quickly get your views on tencent as well, it's having a pretty good day in hong kong, up by about 4.2% right now. what is your outlook for the coming quarters for tencent? cannot sustain this momentum? chelsey: -- paul: we will have to leave it there. than