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[laughter] >> u.s.-china education trust.t's a rare opportunity to hear you twice in person, two days in succession. the question of keeping communication channels open and broadening it. from the perspective of an ngo. we are being hit by a double emmy. -- whammy. the operating environment in china is tightening. has made it so difficult that many of our non-ngo -- we are still standing --at the same time funding sources are drying up fast and almost completely. with american students, not many are continuing to be interested in studying in china. tourism is dropping. who is left to talk about america? we need your advice. how do we stay in the game? >> thank you. ambassador, thank you for your remarks. i agree with everything you said. we need to bring more american students to china. it is a passion of mine, personally. the way i look at this relationship, we have a highly competitive relationship with the government of china, where we defend our national interests. we have a national interest to engage the people of china
[laughter] >> u.s.-china education trust.t's a rare opportunity to hear you twice in person, two days in succession. the question of keeping communication channels open and broadening it. from the perspective of an ngo. we are being hit by a double emmy. -- whammy. the operating environment in china is tightening. has made it so difficult that many of our non-ngo -- we are still standing --at the same time funding sources are drying up fast and almost completely. with american students,...
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china's actions that implicate key u.s. interests around the world. before our discussion gets underway, i would like to thank the ford foundation, which has made this event possible, and our global china project. they have always shown respect to our research independence. this event reflects only the views of the speakers themselves. a reminder, we are streaming live and on the record so send your questions by email to events at brookings.edu or on social media using #global china. a question and answer session will follow at the end of the discussion and staff will come around with microphones. thank you for joining us today. ambassador burns, the floor is yours. [applause] >> suzanne, thank you very much. good morning, everybody. nice to be back at brookings. i want to pay tribute to suzanne. we worked very closely together when i was under secretary of state in the george w. bush administration. we were trying to figure out a series of sanctions against the iranians for their illegal aspirations in the nuclear realm. i
china's actions that implicate key u.s. interests around the world. before our discussion gets underway, i would like to thank the ford foundation, which has made this event possible, and our global china project. they have always shown respect to our research independence. this event reflects only the views of the speakers themselves. a reminder, we are streaming live and on the record so send your questions by email to events at brookings.edu or on social media using #global china. a question...
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but i have been sort of outspoken about china, u.s.hina relations, and with a love for china, with a love for the chinese people. when i was a little girl, they'd say, if you dig a hole deep enough in the sand at the beach, you will reach china. so we felt that we were all connected. so it isn't with any dislike for things chinese or people chinese. it's about -- it's about what? a genocide of the uighurs, a suppression of democracy in hong kong while promising one country, two systems, a taking down of the culture, the language and the religion, the people in tibet, the threat to taiwan, the threat to democracy, not democracy, but the threat to freedom of speech. francine: what do you think will happen with taiwan? mrs. pelosi: we recognize china. our visit did nothing to alter that. and we have communiques, laws that govern our relationship with china and our relationship with taiwan, which are very specific. and we are committed to helping taiwan defend itself should they be attacked. we don't want any change in status, unless it we
but i have been sort of outspoken about china, u.s.hina relations, and with a love for china, with a love for the chinese people. when i was a little girl, they'd say, if you dig a hole deep enough in the sand at the beach, you will reach china. so we felt that we were all connected. so it isn't with any dislike for things chinese or people chinese. it's about -- it's about what? a genocide of the uighurs, a suppression of democracy in hong kong while promising one country, two systems, a...
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the u.s. china conflict would be an extinction event with ai. i think it would be an extinction event. we have to prevent it, we have to cohabit, coexist. whatever word you want to use. there is a lot more commonality. i think the main thing we should focus on is what the ethos of responsibility for both our own citizens and for the welfare of the greater global community within our two governments and systems and then within that you can find a lot of areas of commonality. i don't think china is ready to be a leader but i think it will be the u.s. for the foreseeable future try to get china to do more. how is that going to look? how are we going to bring the multilateral? how does that look? that change has to happen. we have to find a way to coexist and i think it will be a mistake not to do with one global community. because there is other extinction type events that we need to address on much more urgency that are being tackled now. >> i have a final question for each of you because we want to flow onto our guests. there is a lot of discussi
the u.s. china conflict would be an extinction event with ai. i think it would be an extinction event. we have to prevent it, we have to cohabit, coexist. whatever word you want to use. there is a lot more commonality. i think the main thing we should focus on is what the ethos of responsibility for both our own citizens and for the welfare of the greater global community within our two governments and systems and then within that you can find a lot of areas of commonality. i don't think china...
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five years do you think that china militarily is ahead of the u.s.n space? >> i think the chinese, one, are giving us a real good run for the money. >> reporter: he says another potential chinese threat to the u.s. from space includes a cyber attack that allows china to remotely take control of an american satellite. >> you can say to the satellite, deorbit it comes crashing down there goes a billion dollar payload crashing into the pacific. >> reporter: or disrupt american missile defense systems. >> the really scary one, of course, is if you could spoof missile early warning systems so they don't report a missile launch that's the ultimate nightmare. >> reporter: u.s. officials tell nbc news china can already do both. and china successfully launched its own refueler a few months ago, which enables china to keep its satellites in orbit longer in the meantime, the u.s. may still be months away from the same technology. and multiple u.s. military officials tell us perhaps most concerning, china launched a hypersonic missile capable of orbiting the glo
five years do you think that china militarily is ahead of the u.s.n space? >> i think the chinese, one, are giving us a real good run for the money. >> reporter: he says another potential chinese threat to the u.s. from space includes a cyber attack that allows china to remotely take control of an american satellite. >> you can say to the satellite, deorbit it comes crashing down there goes a billion dollar payload crashing into the pacific. >> reporter: or disrupt...
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against threats from china in orbit >> reporter: growing tensions between the u.s. and china now extending to hundreds of miles above the earth. >> we know when we're threatened we need to be able to counter the threat >> reporter: to get an inside look at some of the latest american technology to counter the chinese threat, we went to united launch alliance's factory in alabama, working on defenses against things like chinese satellites that can use robotic arms to drag other satellites out of orbit, meaning china could disable critical american communication satellites >> they were actually able to grab ahold of one of their defunct gps satellites >> reporter: what is the concern about them having that kind of capability in space? >> anything that can interact with a spacecraft for servicing is inherently capable of interacting with a spacecraft to harm it or to gather intelligence from it >> reporter: and fears tonight that china is moving faster than the u.s. in this new space race, including not just in space, but the skies just above us. not only using satelli
against threats from china in orbit >> reporter: growing tensions between the u.s. and china now extending to hundreds of miles above the earth. >> we know when we're threatened we need to be able to counter the threat >> reporter: to get an inside look at some of the latest american technology to counter the chinese threat, we went to united launch alliance's factory in alabama, working on defenses against things like chinese satellites that can use robotic arms to drag other...
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china -- challenging the u.s. on supplies of strategic raw materials. when it comes to their trading sessions ahead of the christmas holidays, stocks are already off for the holidays. we are seeing a little upside at the start of that cash open. about 130-150 points away from the record high of august 2021. we will have to see how strong the momentum is in today's session given we are seeing thin liquidity across markets. watching the aus saw a big job of about 1% at about the 68 level. a lot of it has been the weakness in the greenback with the dollar falling to a four month low. after the third quarter gdp was revised lower. watching for more momentum when it comes to that. elsewhere, around the region, look at where we are setting up for trading in japan. there were hurdles for japan equities as we are seeing close to a 33 year high for the nikkei 225. slow pullback of yen weakness that has been such a tailwind for japan equities. we are seeing a bit of a downside when it comes to the nikkei futures. the yen trading at 142. just below the 200 day mov
china -- challenging the u.s. on supplies of strategic raw materials. when it comes to their trading sessions ahead of the christmas holidays, stocks are already off for the holidays. we are seeing a little upside at the start of that cash open. about 130-150 points away from the record high of august 2021. we will have to see how strong the momentum is in today's session given we are seeing thin liquidity across markets. watching the aus saw a big job of about 1% at about the 68 level. a lot...
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they talk vaguely about china will target anti-china-u.s.noring the fact that in 2020, the largest anti-china u.s. politician, the only one on the presidential ballot was president trump and that in 2024, that will be either president trump or a republican and that, you know, joe biden and the democrats, again, have been a dream candidate for china's naked aggression really around the world. john, the atlantic, yes, that's still publishing, is claiming that xi jinping actually wants biden to lose, talk about disinformation. and claiming that joe has hit china harder than trump ever did. the chaos of the trump presidency allowed chinese propagandist to cast the united states as a super power decline. biden's reengagement has made spreading that narrative harder. take a back at that one. at a whack at thatone. >> it shows the atlantic as part of the media, social media continuing to work to create, you know, a false narrative about that. look, joe bidenens foreign policy not just with regard to china as we have talked about, but with regard to
they talk vaguely about china will target anti-china-u.s.noring the fact that in 2020, the largest anti-china u.s. politician, the only one on the presidential ballot was president trump and that in 2024, that will be either president trump or a republican and that, you know, joe biden and the democrats, again, have been a dream candidate for china's naked aggression really around the world. john, the atlantic, yes, that's still publishing, is claiming that xi jinping actually wants biden to...
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you pegged an op-ed in bloomberg yesterday on why, quote, the china-u.s.ne is good news in a sea of bad, talking about a uniformed military leaders of china. the u.s. speaking on video for the first time in well over a year. you say perhaps the most important reason for keeping lines of communication open is that the tactical level where the two nations individual ships, submarines, aircraft drones, space systems, and cyber campaigns are constantly interacting. walk us through more of your thoughts on this. >> sure. we ought to be concerned any time the two biggest militaries in the world who have a significant disagreement about who owns the south china sea, about should taiwan be allowed to continue as a democratic entity, serious disagreements, two big militaries, bad situation. what you want is military leaders be able to pick up the phone and call each other. first, in case of a tactical incident. two jets are kind of dancing around in the sky, two ships playing hunt for red october in the south china sea. at the operational level where the big u.s. m
you pegged an op-ed in bloomberg yesterday on why, quote, the china-u.s.ne is good news in a sea of bad, talking about a uniformed military leaders of china. the u.s. speaking on video for the first time in well over a year. you say perhaps the most important reason for keeping lines of communication open is that the tactical level where the two nations individual ships, submarines, aircraft drones, space systems, and cyber campaigns are constantly interacting. walk us through more of your...
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/china tensions. beijing says the u.s.avy illegally intruded its waters, mobilizing the military to track an american warship near the hotly contested skratly islands nearly 700 miles away from the coast. a statement says the u.s. deliberately disrupted the situation in the south china sea. the u.s. navy says the ship was conducting routine operations in international waters consistent with international law. taiwan keeping a close eye on the latest regional stand off between two global superpowers. beijing's expanding military exercises and persistent incursions setting the stage for a powder keg. developing its first indigenous submarine, hoping to stop china from blockading the island. beefing up air bases, deploying drones, and fighter jets near the island. a new report from taiwan's defense ministry says that chinese military uses realistic combat training and exercises to strengthen its preparedness against taiwan. an island democracy china's communist rulers claim as their own territory, despite never controlling it
/china tensions. beijing says the u.s.avy illegally intruded its waters, mobilizing the military to track an american warship near the hotly contested skratly islands nearly 700 miles away from the coast. a statement says the u.s. deliberately disrupted the situation in the south china sea. the u.s. navy says the ship was conducting routine operations in international waters consistent with international law. taiwan keeping a close eye on the latest regional stand off between two global...
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. >> china now is more capable than ever of building advanced technologies. >> it worried u.s.who are more concerned about advanced chips going into military equipment than smartphones. it left them wandering, how exactly did china do it? kriti: our team looking at some of the biggest development we have seen in the chip sector this year. one of the standout themes has been that buzz word, artificial intelligence. it is where chips will be essential to generative ai, as they have been to smartphones. china both an opportunity and risk. i want to bring in tom mackenzie, who has interviewed the ceo of arm earlier this year. walk us through this arm story this year. the future of ai, does it really just stay in the hands of this one company? tom: to some extent, 2023 has been a year in terms of the hardware and software of a company called nvidia, and in terms of large language models, it's been a year about openai. we are already seeing competitors to openai. for nvidia, they have a target on their back in terms of chipmakers looking to carve out some of that market share. nvidia
. >> china now is more capable than ever of building advanced technologies. >> it worried u.s.who are more concerned about advanced chips going into military equipment than smartphones. it left them wandering, how exactly did china do it? kriti: our team looking at some of the biggest development we have seen in the chip sector this year. one of the standout themes has been that buzz word, artificial intelligence. it is where chips will be essential to generative ai, as they have...
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is the u.s. doing enough to de-risk from china and is there a danger of doing too much de-risking? sec. yellen: i see a three-part agenda with respect to china. the first is that we want to have a relationship that involves healthy competition, trade, investment that is broadly beneficial both to the united states and to china, is good for businesses, china is a huge market and is good for american workers, creates jobs. we do not want to decouple the biden administration does not seek to decouple from china, but we do seek to de-risk. that means we don't want to be overly content when it comes to key supply chains on china, instead, i promoted an approach called friends shoring, which involves diversifying our supply chains. we are working with india, vietnam, mexico, indonesia, with other countries to continue to get the benefits of international trade, but to be less reliant on china. we also need a level playing field. the president, in his meeting with president xi and i met a few days before that with my chinese counterpart. china has -- practices the result in unfair trade s
is the u.s. doing enough to de-risk from china and is there a danger of doing too much de-risking? sec. yellen: i see a three-part agenda with respect to china. the first is that we want to have a relationship that involves healthy competition, trade, investment that is broadly beneficial both to the united states and to china, is good for businesses, china is a huge market and is good for american workers, creates jobs. we do not want to decouple the biden administration does not seek to...
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listed stocks, eight times the third of a market cap in cash and if things get better in china or u.sons improve the economy does better this stock could be up 50% in the coming year. >> i want to turn it over to the energy patch we were talking about mna but you like chevron the most just curious why. >> there been one of the worst performers of big energy stocks down almost 20%, i think it's looking pretty attractive in the 140s is about ten times earnings and a 4% dividend yield there acknowledging they had issues the cfo sent a message out to the staff saying we have to upper game in 2024 and i think it could happen. >> you you also like brookshire hathaway they have a good sleeping night stock, obviously warren buffett has been running for almost 60 years, $150 billion worth of cash and a huge equity portfolio of $350 billion in his good earnings trading 20 times forward earnings and earnings are growing nicely. >> here's the thing buffett is 93 years old you've known him and spoken him over the years isn't that an issue. >> it's definitely an issue charlie munger died in 99. he
listed stocks, eight times the third of a market cap in cash and if things get better in china or u.sons improve the economy does better this stock could be up 50% in the coming year. >> i want to turn it over to the energy patch we were talking about mna but you like chevron the most just curious why. >> there been one of the worst performers of big energy stocks down almost 20%, i think it's looking pretty attractive in the 140s is about ten times earnings and a 4% dividend yield...
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the second point though is, let's not limit this to just the u.s. and china. the reason this particular group of people gather is that, which is how to get more policies and procedures in place more certainty in place to move forward? you heard from the secretary a moment ago talking about her responsibilities. we'll hear from the prime minter of mulasia. they want less risk and more certainty. last but not least the third element, how you indicate the sign of the direction of travel, because when you make decisions on supply chain you think about the conditions that exist today, but the conditions that exist over the next, 3, 5 years so look frg the stability. not obviously interesced in today's policy and procedures but the plans going forward and that is the dialogue we hope to hear today from policy makers and politicians. >> you hit a important power word, dialogue. used to be the case we say that all the time. every minute all most and it is not the luxury and now it becomes quite a luxury. that is also what i want to ask with you, bob. what does it take
the second point though is, let's not limit this to just the u.s. and china. the reason this particular group of people gather is that, which is how to get more policies and procedures in place more certainty in place to move forward? you heard from the secretary a moment ago talking about her responsibilities. we'll hear from the prime minter of mulasia. they want less risk and more certainty. last but not least the third element, how you indicate the sign of the direction of travel, because...
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versus china self they are trying to create a narrative in the reason for the u.s. and china of the most important individual is the reality that is china versus united states, china the rest of the world satisfy china notorious, every country has this problem, one, india, philippines, you name it. this portrays all the things that the united states that's why narrative is not about the united states, it's really about china presenting a different model of contradictory work tools prevailing global order. second in this whole thing, u.s. china relations is the big problem and it's all because net states. the primary agency besetting this relationship, it's not this idea united states government transforms, it is total nonsense. also appeals to this in washington, if we continue the attitude. every single time it gets worse, it's always the policy. >> people traveling to china on their soil, on their term. >> this is not at home. stop being a bully the next one off the narrative is somehow china's engagement with the rest of the world and this scenario. with this rel
versus china self they are trying to create a narrative in the reason for the u.s. and china of the most important individual is the reality that is china versus united states, china the rest of the world satisfy china notorious, every country has this problem, one, india, philippines, you name it. this portrays all the things that the united states that's why narrative is not about the united states, it's really about china presenting a different model of contradictory work tools prevailing...
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that is china. maybe we see what was over in the u.s. and china next year. that would be perhaps a pipe dream according to some. talking of the u.s., favorite measure of inflation by the federal reserve is out later. data deluge. university of michigan figures as well and home sales. david: consumer confidence go into that. how much further i guess the question here, is there a number soft enough on this print that can excite bond marks even further? treasuries are up for four straight weeks. bonds have also done quite well. so this comes out today. the fed has pushed back on surprise -- unsurprise glingly on the fed pivot conversation. six, seven cuts priced for next year. seems a bit over the top. if you consider things, it's reversing most of the tightening taking place this year. but marks tone overshoot -- they always overshoot really. and then we pull back. rishaad: we had a survey, it said maybe prices in too many rate cuts for next year. this was sort of also the narrative coming out of the federal reserve, pushing back on what they were saying, what
that is china. maybe we see what was over in the u.s. and china next year. that would be perhaps a pipe dream according to some. talking of the u.s., favorite measure of inflation by the federal reserve is out later. data deluge. university of michigan figures as well and home sales. david: consumer confidence go into that. how much further i guess the question here, is there a number soft enough on this print that can excite bond marks even further? treasuries are up for four straight weeks....
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versus china self they are trying to create a narrative in the reason for the u.s. and china of the most important individual is the reality that is china versus united states, china the rest of the world satisfy china notorious, every country has this problem, one, india, philippines, you name it. this portrays all the things that the united states that's why narrative is not about the united states, it's really about china presenting a different model of contradictory work tools prevailing global order. second in this whole thing, u.s. china relations is the big problem and it's all because net states. the primary agency besetting this relationship, it's not this idea united states government transforms, it is total nonsense. also appeals to this in washington, if we continue the attitude. every single time it gets worse, it's always the policy. >> people traveling to china on their soil, on their term. >> this is not at home. stop being a bully the next one off the narrative is somehow china's engagement with the rest of the world and this scenario. with this rel
versus china self they are trying to create a narrative in the reason for the u.s. and china of the most important individual is the reality that is china versus united states, china the rest of the world satisfy china notorious, every country has this problem, one, india, philippines, you name it. this portrays all the things that the united states that's why narrative is not about the united states, it's really about china presenting a different model of contradictory work tools prevailing...
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today, treasury secretary janet yellen speaks at the u.s.-china business council's 50th anniversary dinner in washington, d. where she's expectedo highlight the treasuryepartment's priorities for the u.s.-china economic relationship in the coming year. watch live coverage beginning at 7:45 p.m. eastern on c-span. on the free c-span now app. or online at c-span.org. >> week nights at 9:00 eastern, c-span's encore presentation of our 10-part series "books that shaped america." c-span partnered with the library of congress which explored key piece of literature that had a profound impact on our country. monday night we feature "common sense," a 47-page pamphlet written by thomas paine. watch the encore presentation of "books that shaped america," w.e.c. nights at 9:00 eastern on c-span or go to c-span.org/booksthatshapedameric a to learn more about the series and the books featured. >> this year, book tv marks 25 years of shining a spotlight on leading nonfiction authors and their books, with talks from more than 22,000 officers, nearly 900 cit
today, treasury secretary janet yellen speaks at the u.s.-china business council's 50th anniversary dinner in washington, d. where she's expectedo highlight the treasuryepartment's priorities for the u.s.-china economic relationship in the coming year. watch live coverage beginning at 7:45 p.m. eastern on c-span. on the free c-span now app. or online at c-span.org. >> week nights at 9:00 eastern, c-span's encore presentation of our 10-part series "books that shaped america."...
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stuart: china accuses a u.s. ship of "illegally intruding into the south china sea".ow has our navy responded in lauren: the u.s. says that ship was conducting ruca teen operations in international waters but the shy cheese say they violating their security and international relations and china called the u.s. the biggest threat to peace in the south china sea. what happened to american power. two super powers now u.s. and china saying opposite th th thid have as there's a draft of new defense adopt report circulating and the u.s. defense industry cannot satisfy with speed and scale the full range of products that our military needs. whereas the prc, people's republic of china has spent billions building up their modern military and now flexing their muscles in one area being the south china sea. and other areas too. stuart: thanks indeed, lauren. check the markets and you've got a ton of red ink and nasdaq down 220 points and big tech way down all sectors of big team down. coming up, democrats backing away from using the term bidenomics. we'll have a report on how de
stuart: china accuses a u.s. ship of "illegally intruding into the south china sea".ow has our navy responded in lauren: the u.s. says that ship was conducting ruca teen operations in international waters but the shy cheese say they violating their security and international relations and china called the u.s. the biggest threat to peace in the south china sea. what happened to american power. two super powers now u.s. and china saying opposite th th thid have as there's a draft of...
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ed: china tech under more scrutiny. the u.s. information of legacy semiconductors made in china to understand how reliant the u.s. is on chinese made chips. joining us with the latest, bloomberg's mackenzie hawkins in san francisco. while you and i were asleep overnight, the chinese government responded to this issue. what did they have to say? >> what we saw out of washington the past couple of days, the biden administration is weighing paris on older models of semiconductors reduced in china. the chinese said that would hurt the u.s., undermine free markets and fair competition. the u.s. does not see china as a market-based actor and a fair player, which is the reason washington is considering pursuing. caroline: let's talk about the behavior that once again, gina raimondo is responding to. the worry is what, they are flooding the market with cheaper goods/ mackenzie: exactly. the u.s. has introduced controls on the most advanced semi contract -- semiconductors and china on which powers everything from your phone, your car to
ed: china tech under more scrutiny. the u.s. information of legacy semiconductors made in china to understand how reliant the u.s. is on chinese made chips. joining us with the latest, bloomberg's mackenzie hawkins in san francisco. while you and i were asleep overnight, the chinese government responded to this issue. what did they have to say? >> what we saw out of washington the past couple of days, the biden administration is weighing paris on older models of semiconductors reduced in...
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climate policy for china? it's like g lee hoped john kerry can convince the chinese government to do more. >> john kerry is a terrific climate diplomat. endears primarily with his equivalent in china and he is really committed to climate response and international cooperation on it. the problem as i see it is we focus tremendously on the top line carbon reduction commitments to china will make. what is the percentage is going to be et cetera. it is a fruitless discussion. xi jinping has said is not just from jon kerry's been saying it for years. >> he did say when drunk i was in china progress he also said it would drink i was in china but it should not have been a shock it's not by any means the first time he said that. china will determine its own pace and timing of karma reductions will do it in a way that fits with china's conditions they are setting a goal for 2030 or before neutrality by 2060 or before. a lot depends how hot it gets when it hits those benchmarks. i have no doubt they will do a lot on car
climate policy for china? it's like g lee hoped john kerry can convince the chinese government to do more. >> john kerry is a terrific climate diplomat. endears primarily with his equivalent in china and he is really committed to climate response and international cooperation on it. the problem as i see it is we focus tremendously on the top line carbon reduction commitments to china will make. what is the percentage is going to be et cetera. it is a fruitless discussion. xi jinping has...
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they have relationships with china and the u.s. they want to send a signal. dependent on both countries. rishaad: it is so trade dependent. you have a slowdown in china taking place. the u.s. could be facing fairly anemic growth in 2024. how does it affect this country? is it the biggest headwind in your positive you? >> absolutely. very trade dependent. especially with the u.s. it has been led by the u.s. vietnam's exports to the u.s. has nearly tripled. the u.s. slowing down will have an impact on vietnamese exports. we already see they're down 6% this year. they have bottomed out. the last three months we have seen more growth. that is an issue in the short-term. in the long term, if you look at investments, it is about $20 billion. that for the long term is in pretty good shape. yvonne: what is the case around stocks in vienna? this economy we know has been on fire. do you have many choices out there? >> focus on quality names. some of the names that we own in vietnam despite the market being soft have outperformed the bigger index. focus on quality names
they have relationships with china and the u.s. they want to send a signal. dependent on both countries. rishaad: it is so trade dependent. you have a slowdown in china taking place. the u.s. could be facing fairly anemic growth in 2024. how does it affect this country? is it the biggest headwind in your positive you? >> absolutely. very trade dependent. especially with the u.s. it has been led by the u.s. vietnam's exports to the u.s. has nearly tripled. the u.s. slowing down will have...