chris hillson is based and popular new guinea where he is the national director for world vision. it says the location makes the rescue operation extremely challenging. in this scenario, or a spot, a long way from the capital city. it's 600 kilometers and it's in a fairly revised filings region with the state of graphy. we frequently have earthquakes. this area is fairly remote, even from the provincial center, a while back. it's quite a long drive. and so what we're saying is the tragic events take place at 3 o'clock 2 days ago or in the morning. so you can imagine buying in the dock and literally the mountain falling down when you it is incredibly challenging to get access to these areas. so this is also hampered by the mind by why the tools and the land slides across it so that they will be ongoing challenges in getting people in. and then also once we've done proper assessments and we look at time united, continuing search and rescue operations. exactly. how can we get assistance in there? i think that will obviously require helicopters and other aircraft and other things, but