true unconscious reasons for his fear, that’s what, for example, maybe well, from practice or from christomathyd for us... ordinary viewers are afraid of flying, in aerophobia? a lot of things , but most likely, some kind of traumatic experience that is unconscious, it may be very early, it may be that the person does not remember it, it may be a pre-verbal story, that is, before he even began to speak, and it’s impossible to remember this, and it’s even possible that it could be a trauma that happened in the perinatal period, for example, even during pregnancy, right? when he was in the womb, yes, yes, when for example, not i know that my mother was going through some very strong stress, she had experiences in general, well, yes, on the verge of life and death, her feelings, yes, that is, for her it was like that, or, perhaps, a very traumatic birth, so , well , that is, in a deep approach, we would look, that is, we would diagnose how a person defends himself, yes, what is it? for a method of defense, in psychodynamic approaches there is a system of seven basic defense mechanisms, psychoanaly