and of those some of those people, you know, christopher jencks you mentioned, that's the anecdote. who wrote in two different politically leaning magazines about this idea he was you know, a fairly liberal sociologist at the time, and kenneth clarke, who is actually in brown, he wrote an essay this, you know, and so i thought that was something that i think out there a little bit you're in maybe the choice movement i think you're aware of some of those voices potentially. but i the larger you know, most people i don't think are actually aware of that. so i thought that was was interesting. and you see that essentially the entire history, which i also thought was fascinating, i mean, certainly it is dominated by the movement, dominated by conservatives, but they're not the only voices. and so i found that kind of intriguing. and it it made me sort of dig a little deeper into okay well then how did sort of work you know how did these different ideas about choice sort of play against each other? you know, and i thought it was interesting that you, milton friedman, essentially with chr