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we go to colorado. dump did not win colorado in 2016. every republican has lost the state of colorado going back to 2008. the last republican to carry colorado was george w. bush in 2004. you don't have to be a republican to win colorado to win electoral college. >> that's important to understand. a lot of people reacting to him not being on the ballot. electoral college is coming to mind and 2016. we're less than a year away from the election. how about colorado this time around? >> what about colorado this time around? before this decision came down, all of the experts believed it would go democratic. solid biden, in cook county elections. this doesn't change much. and biden won it last time by 13.5 points in 2020. >> does that mean he's in bad shape for 2024? doesn't sound like it in other polls. >> if we look at donald trump's electoral votes. look at the states in 2020. that gets you to 235. the states he lost but leads, gets you to 67. the potential 2024 total, 302. you need 270 to win. the states he lost, colorado is not included.
we go to colorado. dump did not win colorado in 2016. every republican has lost the state of colorado going back to 2008. the last republican to carry colorado was george w. bush in 2004. you don't have to be a republican to win colorado to win electoral college. >> that's important to understand. a lot of people reacting to him not being on the ballot. electoral college is coming to mind and 2016. we're less than a year away from the election. how about colorado this time around?...
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host: bruce in colorado, what do you say this morning about your colorado supreme court? caller: my opinion is i'm not one of those know it all know nothings. sorry to insult anybody. i'm not a constitutional scholar like everybody who's -- if they look it up they are going online. a caller knew about section three that donald trump was not supposed to be removed. i did not vote for trump. i don't plan on voting for him. that sort of thing. i am waiting to see what decision will be made by the people who actually do study law. not sure if it is right that he should be pulled off the ballot when you have people within the state he would like to vote for trump. at this point in time i will wait to see what the people who actually, you know, who actually study law are going to do. i have been for years, the last three or four years, listening to nothing but these conservatives talk about this about the election. let me put it to you this way. when i opened up my ballot in 2020 and there was donald trump-mike pence and then, harris and joe biden, if my vote for biden did not
host: bruce in colorado, what do you say this morning about your colorado supreme court? caller: my opinion is i'm not one of those know it all know nothings. sorry to insult anybody. i'm not a constitutional scholar like everybody who's -- if they look it up they are going online. a caller knew about section three that donald trump was not supposed to be removed. i did not vote for trump. i don't plan on voting for him. that sort of thing. i am waiting to see what decision will be made by the...
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and of course both the lower court in colorado and the colorado supreme court did address those very questions and determined that what mr. trump had done was, in fact, engaging in insurrection directly actually. squf also that any speech he made in the context of engaging in that insurrection was not protected by the first amendment. that among many other holding. so, yes, i think they were trying to able to flag for the public and supreme court that justice gorsuch has said things in the past that would support what they're doing. i don't think it will stop him from saying so or thinking so. >> although in the ruling they specifically say this is akin to aid or citizenship as a qualification whether or not you incited an insurrection. ian, mary talks about the sort of notion about whether trump incited insurrection. and i was sort of struck by the language in this ruling, the degree to which they have found not nearly guilty of inciting an insurrection, but they accuse him of overt, voluntary, and direct participation in an insurrection. i'll read you the quote. president trump did
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this is exactly how colorado law is set up. everyday voters can file a lawsuit to have a court weigh in. this isn't such a clear-cut case in that we don't have a lot of case law. it's unprecedented. and it's unprecedented by its nature in itself. we usually do not have presidents try to steal elections, and usually we don't need to rely on section 3 of the 14th amendment to clear up eligibility of presidential candidates. >> okay. thank you for clarifying your position on this. jena griswold, we appreciate it. >>> cnn's jeff zeleny joins us. has the former president reacted to tonight's monumental decision by the colorado supreme court, jeff? >> reporter: pamela, surprisingly he has not. he's been speaking for nearly an hour here in waterloo, talking about the iowa caucuses coming up in 27 days, talking about some of his rivals, particularly florida governor ron desantis, but he has not talked at all about the ruling. his campaign has. his campaign swiftly reacted in a statement, urging the supreme court to take this case up. a
this is exactly how colorado law is set up. everyday voters can file a lawsuit to have a court weigh in. this isn't such a clear-cut case in that we don't have a lot of case law. it's unprecedented. and it's unprecedented by its nature in itself. we usually do not have presidents try to steal elections, and usually we don't need to rely on section 3 of the 14th amendment to clear up eligibility of presidential candidates. >> okay. thank you for clarifying your position on this. jena...
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so i think the thing -- the thing that's most different about colorado's colorado law.noted, most of the cases that have failed have failed on procedural grounds because either they were filed in the wrong corridor by the wrong person. or state law did not afford the suing party an opportunity to bring a case like this. and people assume that this analysis breaks down with red states and blue states. it really doesn't. you have to look at the individual states and individual laws. we found six brave plaintiffs in colorado, republicans and unaffiliated voters who are willing to sue in colorado law, for voters to bring a battle challenge like this, which was obviously confirmed by the colorado supreme court this week. >> reporter: does it matter that donald trump has not yet been convicted in a court of law as an insurrectionist or responsible for january the 6th? would that -- i'd make your case as it goes to the supreme potentially of donald trump does appeal which a lot of people obviously think he will, what to make the case stronger if he would've waited for a convic
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in colorado. thank you so much for being here. why do you think that you won on this effort when others who have tried to do similar in other states have not been successful? >> i think colorado has procedures that allows for an actual evidentiary hearing in a case like this. you have seen in other states that courts rule that there's no procedure available under state law to hear this type of case. colorado is different. the district court ruled in our favor on that and so did the supreme court today. the district court ruled against us on a technical legal issue regarding an interpretation of the 14th amendment. we were very could have if i d -- confident the colorado supreme court would not side with the district court on that . colorado has unique procedures that allowed us to do this. >> we will talk more about what that dissent said in a moment. we have heard from the trump team, his attorneys. they have said they will be appealing this to the supreme court. do you think you have a chance at
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see hassan versus colorado. as judge courses -- recognized and has honors estates legitimate interest in protecting integrity practical and not so subtle message from one of the justices who is likely to take this up, mary? >> i think the colorado supreme court is trying to point out that at least one person was now a current justice was likely to be ruling on this case has said something that they think supports their holding. the holding that yes, the state of colorado can keep somebody off the ballot who is not constitutionally qualified. now there is a big difference between sort of objective qualifications like age and citizenship than there are for things like whether somebody has engaged in an insurrection or rebellion against the constitution of the united states or giving aid and comfort there too. not that that is subjective in his sense but it requires some sort of determination about what that means. what is insurrection or what is a rebellion against the constitution? and of course both the lower co
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how about colorado this time around? >> yeah what about colorado this time around.e this decision came down, pretty much all of the experts believe that it was going to go democratic. solid biden, -- and say for biden according to -- so to be honest, it doesn't really change very much. of course biden won it last time around by 13.5 points in 2020. >> so does that mean that he's in bad shape for 2024? it doesn't sound like according to the other. polls >> exactly right. if we essentially look at donald trump's electoral votes. 270 needed to win. look at the states he won in 2020. that gets you to 2:35. the states he lost but now leads in. gets you to 67 potential 2024 total get this, 302. you only need 270 to win. the states he leads a now that he lost in 2020 include arizona, georgia, michigan, nevada, pennsylvania. colorado not included in that. at this point trump does have a clear path to victory. >> interestingly enough, one of the big questions on everyone's mind tonight is based on this ruling. will other states follow suit, and how might they rule, when look
how about colorado this time around? >> yeah what about colorado this time around.e this decision came down, pretty much all of the experts believe that it was going to go democratic. solid biden, -- and say for biden according to -- so to be honest, it doesn't really change very much. of course biden won it last time around by 13.5 points in 2020. >> so does that mean that he's in bad shape for 2024? it doesn't sound like according to the other. polls >> exactly right. if we...
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nonetheless, the colorado state court has a state law proceeding under colorado law that they can use circumstances, not specific to insurrection, on election questions. >> makes a difference in the other states that have considered this. >> it does, it's one of the arguments that we heard, a state court judge held a five-day hearing back in october, and november, primarily looked at the january 6th committee hearing and that judge concluded, an interesting ruling, that yes, donald trump did engage in insurrection. however the trial court judge said the president somehow does not qualify as an officer of the united states, that took a little bit of verbal parsing, but that was the ruling, and therefore that judge ruled donald trump is still on the ballot because the president is not subject to the 14th amendment, and that's what landed us yesterday in front of the colorado supreme court. >> now what will likely land us before the high court of the country, before the -- the supreme court on these questions of fact, and the question of law here. >> exactly. so this is what happened yes
nonetheless, the colorado state court has a state law proceeding under colorado law that they can use circumstances, not specific to insurrection, on election questions. >> makes a difference in the other states that have considered this. >> it does, it's one of the arguments that we heard, a state court judge held a five-day hearing back in october, and november, primarily looked at the january 6th committee hearing and that judge concluded, an interesting ruling, that yes, donald...
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, the colorado supreme court, the colorado supreme court look at this and say, well, we know what you with it. so now the question is what will donald trump do... crosstalk. just to jump in there, the former president has said he will appeal this, former president has said he willappealthis, he former president has said he will appeal this, he intends bringing to the us supreme court. how confident are you that today's rawling will be upheld there? i that today's rawling will be upheld there?— that today's rawling will be upheld there? that today's rawling will be uheld there? ~' ., i, upheld there? i think we have a really strong — upheld there? i think we have a really strong argument, - upheld there? i think we have a really strong argument, a - really strong argument, a strong argument for it to be appealed. while our decision here was 4—3, only two of the justices, only one of the justices, only one of the justices really appealed, descended on constitutional grounds. those are the grounds supreme court will have to hear this on. and they're going to have the questions of is the
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he had this to say about that colorado ruling. >> i think the u.s.rt will reverse that, but here's the larger thing what the left and the media and the democrats are doing. they're doing all this stuff to basically solidify support in the primary for him, get him into the general and the whole general election's going to be all this legal stuff, and look, it's unfair. they're abusing power 100%, but the question is is that going to work? and i think they have a playbook that, unfortunately, will work and it will give biden or the democrat or whoever the ability to skate through this thing. that's their plan. >> so saying the whole general election is going to be about legal cases, perhaps not wrong about that. it's extraordinary to think that all of the supreme court has really waiting on its desk, these weighty decisions involving the 2020 election campaign -- the 2024 election campaign, they have major rulings including whether he can be criminally prosecuted or if his name can be on the ballot. as much as this campaign is being litigated on the ca
he had this to say about that colorado ruling. >> i think the u.s.rt will reverse that, but here's the larger thing what the left and the media and the democrats are doing. they're doing all this stuff to basically solidify support in the primary for him, get him into the general and the whole general election's going to be all this legal stuff, and look, it's unfair. they're abusing power 100%, but the question is is that going to work? and i think they have a playbook that,...
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he had the kitchen sink approach in the colorado supreme court. he raised every single argument, whether something that was serious or whether it was frivolous and there was a huge litany of arguments, all of which were swatted away by the majority. what you said, a very lengthy, serious decision that we're still all going through. and i suspect that again will be the approach. there are, as i mentioned, there are serious issues to raise on appeal. one is this due process issue. that gives the supreme court sort of a procedural mechanism to essentially not -- sort of split the baby. he can be on the ticket but not because he isn't engage in insurrection. other issues involve whether he's considered an officer for this provision. as you noted that's an area where the district court ruled in favor of donald trump. i was not surprised to see the supreme court in colorado overruling that. i think they have the better of that argument, but i think we're seeing that revisited. i think we're going to see the issue of whether it's self-executing, which is
he had the kitchen sink approach in the colorado supreme court. he raised every single argument, whether something that was serious or whether it was frivolous and there was a huge litany of arguments, all of which were swatted away by the majority. what you said, a very lengthy, serious decision that we're still all going through. and i suspect that again will be the approach. there are, as i mentioned, there are serious issues to raise on appeal. one is this due process issue. that gives the...
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politically, colorado has 10 electoral votes. they were in joe biden's column, not donald trump's column in 2020. but if you start taking potentially available electoral votes off the board, the map to 270, even though this was not part of his 2020 path, becomes more complicated in that way. we have no indication yet that the trump team was planning to engage fully in colorado and run a concerted effort in that state to play for those electoral votes. but again, it's the broader concept here that would be earth-shaking to the election itself. as we learned back in 2000, in bush v. gore, when the supreme court gets involved looking at a state supreme court, things unexpected could potentially happen. and we'll see what the supreme court does here. this is always an issue that's going to be headed for the highest court in the land. >> earlier efforts to get trump removed from the state presidential ballot failed in minnesota, in new hampshire, in michigan, and right now in colorado. it's going forward to remove him. alyssa, how do
politically, colorado has 10 electoral votes. they were in joe biden's column, not donald trump's column in 2020. but if you start taking potentially available electoral votes off the board, the map to 270, even though this was not part of his 2020 path, becomes more complicated in that way. we have no indication yet that the trump team was planning to engage fully in colorado and run a concerted effort in that state to play for those electoral votes. but again, it's the broader concept here...
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again, this breaking news out of colorado. donald trump, as we know, is now -- was fighting to be able to be on that primary ballot. the colorado supreme court issuing a 200 something page opinion that we have just got. we are going to go back to christy and hugo i know, guys, you haven't had a chance to look at it. we are looking at it right now. it's 217 pages. i want to start with you on this particular issue. this not the first state. what is intriguing is that it's now being done in a way where the judicial system is having a say in terms of whether or not somebody can be on the ballot. your thoughts about what we're hearing coming out of colorado at this time? >> well, it's an interesting decision because the colorado district judge, sarah wallace, last month when she made her decision, she had a really puzzling decision where she found based on the evidence that trump had engaged in insurrection, but essentially said, well, section 3 of the 14th amendment, it doesn't apply to presidents. he is not an officer such that i
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they don't have to rule immediately to solve the colorado problem because it's been state in coloradotrump's name will appear on the primary ballot, and the way it now goes if they don't get to it. and there is just no problem there. so, that could well defer him until another case comes on. >> but, john dean, what you said is important that you think maybe the supreme court the u.s. supreme court, they'll agree with the colorado supreme court here. and if that is the case, if they don't reverse this, i mean, if donald trump is that republican nominee for president, he will not be able to become president, if he is potentially of the ballots in other states, if we see other matters like this happen. that is a really significant statement that you just made. >> it's true. it's just as a lawyer for the litigants in colorado said, arnold schwarzenegger cannot become president because he doesn't qualify. a lot of people, they are to o young to run for president, they might want to. there are all kinds of reasons that people don't qualify. and starting and insurrection and engaging in one
they don't have to rule immediately to solve the colorado problem because it's been state in coloradotrump's name will appear on the primary ballot, and the way it now goes if they don't get to it. and there is just no problem there. so, that could well defer him until another case comes on. >> but, john dean, what you said is important that you think maybe the supreme court the u.s. supreme court, they'll agree with the colorado supreme court here. and if that is the case, if they don't...
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the colorado supreme court told the governor of colorado he is not eligible to be president and you can ignore him and colorado doesn't recognize the chief executive. the ramifications of this are wild and one reason why i don't see a world in which the supreme court doesn't step in on this. >> carley: talk about those ramifications more. that is one side of things, the other side is political. you lived through the mar-a-lago raid and followed reaction to that closely and what happened after that, it just rallied trump supporters more. do you anticipate that happening here, as well? >> absolutely. already seeing some opponents in the primary rallying around them and it is very reminiscent of that time when initial indictment came down and when the raid happened where people are going to sit there and say this is an overstep and abuse of the judicial process to affect political goal. really the courts are there to keep courts fair and safe not to further political agendas. it will help him in the polls and further damage the public's confidence in the integrity of the judicial system. >
the colorado supreme court told the governor of colorado he is not eligible to be president and you can ignore him and colorado doesn't recognize the chief executive. the ramifications of this are wild and one reason why i don't see a world in which the supreme court doesn't step in on this. >> carley: talk about those ramifications more. that is one side of things, the other side is political. you lived through the mar-a-lago raid and followed reaction to that closely and what happened...
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so the case was colorado,.y opinion in the colorado case that the date does have a right to kick someone who is ineligible to run off of the ballot. interesting in the dissent and hugh didn't mention this that the three dissenting justices did not refute the idea that donald trump played a part in this insurrection which under section 3 of article 14 should rule him ineligible to be running for office. they talked about lack of due process but they didn't engage with any of the evidence that was presented that a five day bench trial. they just said he didn't get his due process. >> bret: jessica, the other point he hasn't been charged official whether i that. >> no. that's also not stipulated in section 3 that you have to be charged. it's not there. i understand that's the case they will make. it will be very difficult for neil gorsuch to go back on something that he has essentially already ruled on and especially if the dissenting justices aren't making it seem that solid of a case. >> bret: interesting point.
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i think that the state shows even the colorado -- the stay shows that even the colorado supreme courtect another court to intervene and possibly even overrule. sometimes the opinion would get into a little bit of histrionics but it did acknowledge this was a first of its kind case. waters that have not been sailed before. it was quite sensible of the court to stay its opinion. the ballots will go forward and get printed. it gives the supreme court time to make its decision without worrying colorado is immediately banning trump. unlike by the way, the judge in the case involving rudy giuliani and $148 million judgment against him. the judge has issued an order, you need to start paying victims immediately. >> i saw that. right before the podcast started giuliani declared bankruptcy. >> that will take a pinch out of your pocket for sure. >> i thought he had it. he can put it on his discover card and get 2% cash back. his federal society branded credit card no doubt would help carry the interest on the charges he's going to have to carry. >> well thank you both for the time. we have anot
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yes, colorado is a democratic state. yes, the supreme court in colorado has been appointed by the 6th. the 7 members appointed by democratic governors. yes. the ethics and responsibility advocacy groups probably lean more towards bite and then trump. but the plaintiff themselves bring in this case, are republicans in order to leave the voters whose voting patterns are, of course, are known to us officially. anyway. that's why i want to say, well then why, why have republicans bringing a big cases against the republican front runner? what are still a few republicans? i can, i can surmise that might not be so thrilled with donald trump and we'd like to see him off the ballot in 2024. remember, it was happening in colorado is actually happening in something like 20 states across the united states. where there's this question, can donald trump be legally allowed to be on the ballot in the states river states in the united states run the election. they set the rules, of course, is federal law. these are federal elections. but
yes, colorado is a democratic state. yes, the supreme court in colorado has been appointed by the 6th. the 7 members appointed by democratic governors. yes. the ethics and responsibility advocacy groups probably lean more towards bite and then trump. but the plaintiff themselves bring in this case, are republicans in order to leave the voters whose voting patterns are, of course, are known to us officially. anyway. that's why i want to say, well then why, why have republicans bringing a big...
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host: rick in colorado.ollowing his state's supreme court, citing in a state ruling that the former president was disqualified from appearing on the republican primary ballot. that doesn't for open forum. we will take a break. when we come back, we will turn our attention next to chinese hackers attacking u.s. critical infrastructure and talk to the chinese security fellow joe mcreynolds. stay with us. ♪ >> weeknights at 9:00 eastern, c-span's encore presentation of books that shaped america, c-span partnered with the library of congress was explored key pieces of literature with a profound impact on our country. tonight, we will feature the journals of lewis and clark, detailing their expedition to explore further west, all the way to the pacific ocean from 1804 to 18 oh six. our guest is stephanie ambrose, author of several books on lewis and clark expedition's. watching c-span's encore presentation of books that shaped america, weeknights at 9:00 eastern on c-span, or go to c-span.org/books to view the se
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whether you're in colorado or not. because depending on how the supreme court rules on this decision, whether it takes it up, every other state could be impacted, , correct? >> right, every other state could be impacted, and there have been inconsistent rulings around the country, which is usually the reason why the supreme court would take a case like this. either because there's inconsistent rulings, or because it's a matter of national importance. so you are right that it only applies in colorado now, and the other challenges are only in the states that they are in. but the supreme court, it certainly could be precedent for disqualification anywhere else in the country. the notion that this was a democratic only supreme court, it's true, there were only democratic appointees, but the court split 4 to 3. and the position of the majority has been supported by conservative scholars all across the country. so it will be interesting to see where it goes from here. >> right, and my understanding is, they were all appointe
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colorado is a blue state. it is not like what happens in colorado will change the direction of the electoral college. this is also a republican primary ballot measure. so republican party being what it is, he can figure out some other way to manipulate the system has he has done so far. so he doesn't necessarily get anything in terms of changing where democrats need to get votes. it does muddy the waters. nobody, especially the folks who litigated bush v gore, no one wants to see another election go to the supreme court. democrats want as clean an election as possible. throwing the courts when it comes into who is on a ballot. what votes count and don't does make that a little harder to do. >> we are talking about colorado. let's go to another c state. california. we heard from the lieutenant governor there. it is not maybe going to stay in colorado. listen to this. >> we have never had a former president indicted for anything. but donald trump has been indicted four times. a 91 felony counts. this is the high
colorado is a blue state. it is not like what happens in colorado will change the direction of the electoral college. this is also a republican primary ballot measure. so republican party being what it is, he can figure out some other way to manipulate the system has he has done so far. so he doesn't necessarily get anything in terms of changing where democrats need to get votes. it does muddy the waters. nobody, especially the folks who litigated bush v gore, no one wants to see another...
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the colorado supreme court, of course, has disqualified him from the colorado ballot. ali, i agree with the colorado supreme court. i have said, gosh, for quite some time, donald trump has incited the insurrection. there should not be a loophole for inciting insurrection for the presidency. just like you, we'll wait to see if an appeal is filed to the united states supreme court and whether the united states supreme court decides to intervene in the case. >> i want to ask you about something, you know, judge luttig and lawrence tribe have been at the forefront of this discussion for a long time. that was what the colorado case was the one that was probably the most important. judge luttig was on the show yesterday, taking exception to some of the discussions going on in the united states to say, this would be unsatisfying, to have donald trump disqualified for this legal matter. the interpretation of section through the 14th amendment would be less satisfying than if they had donald trump on the ballot and had people not elect him as president. judge luttig said those
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more on that. >>> and the colorado supreme court has spoken, and now we're going to speak to colorado'sion official, the colorado secretary of state next. negotiation in exchange for a pause in fighting the war grinds on and civilians in gaza are still suffering the brunt of those battles. here in the united states a group of house democrats is calling on president biden to pu push israel for an immediate and significant shift. it came in a letter to president biden's desk this week and sign by six democrats who sat on national security committees. one of those lawmakers is democratic kelly houlihan and with the arms services committee and joins us now from pennsylvania your home state this morning and thank you so much for joining us. let's talk about what has happened so far. so far we have seen the biden administration send their top cabinet members, secretary of state of defense -- excuse me, lloyd austin went this week to send a message to protect civilians better. netanyahu for his part, the prime minister of israel, doesn't seem to be listening. what other types of leverage do yo
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as i understand it, the colorado ballot for the colorado ballot for the colorado republican primary issed to be locked in on january fifth, which is only two weeks from now, so it is not a normal amount of time for the supreme court to take in any case that it considers, if you consider the fact that we have the christmas and new year's holiday also in here. this is going to be a very accelerated timeframe for the court to make a potentially very politically sensitive decision.— very politically sensitive decision. ~ decision. will the court said over the — decision. will the court said over the period? _ decision. will the court said over the period? normally. decision. will the court said | over the period? normally it would not- _ over the period? normally it would not. they _ over the period? normally it would not. they are - over the period? normally it would not. they are not - would not. they are not expected to sit in person until january five, which is the day they're supposed to meet for they're supposed to meet for the next conference. the were all together for a funeral of
as i understand it, the colorado ballot for the colorado ballot for the colorado republican primary issed to be locked in on january fifth, which is only two weeks from now, so it is not a normal amount of time for the supreme court to take in any case that it considers, if you consider the fact that we have the christmas and new year's holiday also in here. this is going to be a very accelerated timeframe for the court to make a potentially very politically sensitive decision.— very...
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i wonder, as you talk to voters in colorado, how you balance the reality of what happened in colorado, the effort there was to suppress their vote with the need to make sure that every colorado voter understands that their vote matters. >> that is exact balancing act, but i do think that we have seen in prior years, including 2020, americans really show up when they know that their freedoms are under attack. look, the fact that georgians in atlanta predominantly black voters were standing in line up to ten hours and 2020, and then in the middle of the pandemic, it is something that should never happen in the united states. but it does. because extremist republicans said hey, some moderate republicans are trying to hold on to power by suppressing the vote. but people showed up. and again, in 2022, in the midterms, we saw that the attack on democracy and the attack on women to be citizens in this country, and to be able to get the health care that we need through the attacks on abortion access were extreme motivators. so, no matter what happens in this case, our democracy is a very frag
i wonder, as you talk to voters in colorado, how you balance the reality of what happened in colorado, the effort there was to suppress their vote with the need to make sure that every colorado voter understands that their vote matters. >> that is exact balancing act, but i do think that we have seen in prior years, including 2020, americans really show up when they know that their freedoms are under attack. look, the fact that georgians in atlanta predominantly black voters were standing...
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to remove president trump from the colorado state primary ballot.ng up you're watching what is a maria live on fox business. ♪ (adventurous music) ♪ ♪ ♪ be ready for any market with a liquid etf. get in and out with dia. that first time you take a step back. i made that. with your very own online store. i sold that. and you can manage it all in one place. i built this. and it was easy, with a partner that puts you first. godaddy. only the sleep number smart bed lets you each choose your individual firmness and comfort. your sleep number setting. and actively cools or warms up to 13 degrees on either side. and now, save 40% on the sleep number special edition smart bed, ends sunday shop for a limited time. only at sleep number maria: good wednesday morning, everybody many thanks very much for joining us had this morning. i'm maria bartiromo. it is wednesday, december 20, just before 7:00 a.m. on the east coast. we've got breaking news, the colorado supreme court disqualifying former president donald trump% the its 2024 state republican primary ballot
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former president trump has been removed from the gop primary ballot in colorado. the state supreme court there ruling donald trump violated the 14th amendment by engaging in insurrection, disqualifying himself. you're watching "fox and friends first," i'm todd piro. >> carley: i'm carley shimkus. the decision will go to the supreme court as soon as possible. similar lawsuits are pending in a dozen states. griff jenkins is live in washington, d.c. with all the details this morning. >> griff: good morning, todd and carley. it is a stunning decision, a 4-3 decision, it is first time section three of the 14th amendment has been used to keep a presidential candidate off the presidential primary ballot. colorado supreme court finding trump engaged in insurrection on january 6 and is barred from holding office again. the court writes, we are questioning before us, we are mindful of our duty to apply the law without fear or favor and without being swayed by public reaction. the decision marks reversal from district judge's ruling last month that this provision does not di
former president trump has been removed from the gop primary ballot in colorado. the state supreme court there ruling donald trump violated the 14th amendment by engaging in insurrection, disqualifying himself. you're watching "fox and friends first," i'm todd piro. >> carley: i'm carley shimkus. the decision will go to the supreme court as soon as possible. similar lawsuits are pending in a dozen states. griff jenkins is live in washington, d.c. with all the details this...
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over here colorado is blue. colorado is blue. the fact is donald trump does not need the state of colorado in order to win the presidential election and it's in the primary season it doesn't matter there either. >> looking at 2024 more broadly, how is trump's path to 270 looking? >> even without colorado, let's sort of just map this out for you. donald trump's electoral votes, remember 270, are needed to win. states he won in 2020, you see that there. he is at 23 5. states he leads 67. that total combined 302 because he is leading in arizona, georgia, michigan, nevada and pennsylvania, states he lost in 2020, but of course there is this bigger question. is trump guilty of subverting the 2020 election? the majority of americans say yes despite the fact that trump is leading the polls. it's at the split with the no and unsure, up to 48%, a divided country. >> still has to technically importantly win a primary. >> yes. >> before we can get to the general. >> thank you. >> we will see what happens. >> thank you. >>> let's talk to --
over here colorado is blue. colorado is blue. the fact is donald trump does not need the state of colorado in order to win the presidential election and it's in the primary season it doesn't matter there either. >> looking at 2024 more broadly, how is trump's path to 270 looking? >> even without colorado, let's sort of just map this out for you. donald trump's electoral votes, remember 270, are needed to win. states he won in 2020, you see that there. he is at 23 5. states he leads...
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can stay in colorado, to build a stronger economy. now, new data released shows the investment we are making have spurred an inflationary act and goes to communities historically left behind. since i have signed the law, 99% of the energy investments are in counties within income below average. when i took office, i vowed to be president for all americans. the historic investments we are celebrating today are in that district. she is one of the leaders of this movement. she along with every single republican voted against the law that made this possible. then she voted to repeal parts of america. she called the law a massive failure. do you know you're part of a massive failure? tell that to the tell that to the coloradians who got new jobs in pueblo and -- thanks to this. to lead to anyone who wants i to listen. a solar power company that's investing $400 million here in colorado, creating room for 56,000 homes, create 250 good paying jobs. light source bp is -- creating good paying jobs. it all sounds like a massive failure. thank y
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i haven't been to colorado lately. i don't think they've had a republican governor in 20 years or something. the point is even three democratic justices out of the seven thought this was going too far and trump should be allowed to run. your major point, neil, is correct. that this is -- the courts have being drawn in to politics. i'm sure chief justice john roberts and the justices of the supreme court would love nothing more than to have to say nothing act the 2024 presidential election. now there's two separate lines of cases that are going to require the supreme court to get involved. one is this. can donald trump be on the ballot in all the 50 states? they have to get involved. because they don't want 50 different standards. they don't want states retaliating against each other. imagine in a red state said i think joe biden is committing insurrection because he's letting in these illegal aliens across the southern border and bars him from their ballot. that's one problem. then you have the appeals coming up as you
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this is "cnn news central." >> donald trump vowing to fight this huge ruling out of colorado by the colorado supreme court court which removed him from the comele coal ballot dealing him ineligible to run for president. last night the court disqualified trump because he, quote, engaged in insurrection. >> majority opinion wrote, trump did not merely in-scite the insurrection and it was fully under way, he continued to support it by completely demanding that mike pence refuse to perform his constitutional duty and by calling senators to persuade them to stop the countingeelectric orrial votes. so while trump himself has not commented publicly, his campaign saying that it is a completely flawed decision and they plan to swiftly file an appeal and take this extraordinary case all the way to the supreme court. it is important to note that this ban only affects the colorado primary. but the political and legal fallout is far reaching. let's read it off with marshall cohen in washington, d.c. this is a big ruling an getting a lot of reactions. how are the sides responding? >> reporter: challengers
this is "cnn news central." >> donald trump vowing to fight this huge ruling out of colorado by the colorado supreme court court which removed him from the comele coal ballot dealing him ineligible to run for president. last night the court disqualified trump because he, quote, engaged in insurrection. >> majority opinion wrote, trump did not merely in-scite the insurrection and it was fully under way, he continued to support it by completely demanding that mike pence...
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evan, the colorado supreme court said last night that trump is not eligible to be on colorado's ballot because the 14th amendment to the u.s. constitution bans insurrectionists from holding office. the u.s. supreme court is going to decide whether that ruling stands ultimately. what might this mean for the 2024 election? >> well, jake, what it means is that it puts the supreme court squarely in possibly deciding how this election goes forward, right? not since the bush v gore decision in 2000 have we had the supreme court in the middle of an election race. you look at the timeline that we have ahead of us, the former president has until january 4th to file an appeal. we don't anticipate he will do that for a few days, but we think he will go to the supreme court, because january 5th is the deadline to certify what names are on the primary ballot. the primary voters in colorado go to the ballot box on march 5th. so somewhere between now and then, we anticipate that the supreme court will speak, will say something about whether they're going to take this up and review this decision by th
evan, the colorado supreme court said last night that trump is not eligible to be on colorado's ballot because the 14th amendment to the u.s. constitution bans insurrectionists from holding office. the u.s. supreme court is going to decide whether that ruling stands ultimately. what might this mean for the 2024 election? >> well, jake, what it means is that it puts the supreme court squarely in possibly deciding how this election goes forward, right? not since the bush v gore decision in...
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biden won colorado by nearly 14 points.s was never about colorado's ballot access but having a targeted lawsuit aimed at setting a precedent to knock trump off dozens of state ballots and disqualify him by any means necessary from the presidency. therefore denying the people their right to vote. charlie hurt joins me new. we expect the supreme court to take the case, what do you think will happen, charlie? >> i think without a doubt they have no choice but to take up the case because i think you're exactly right about this. they are trying to set a precedent. this will open the flood gates. you will have left-wing lunatic states all around the country trying to do the same thing. you're exactly right. this has very little to do with ballot access in the general election and barring donald trump from getting the leak. democratic leaders have lost faith in joe biden. that's true. democratic leaders have also lost faith in democracy and that's what we're seeing in colorado today. the democrats in colorado are so afraid of allo
biden won colorado by nearly 14 points.s was never about colorado's ballot access but having a targeted lawsuit aimed at setting a precedent to knock trump off dozens of state ballots and disqualify him by any means necessary from the presidency. therefore denying the people their right to vote. charlie hurt joins me new. we expect the supreme court to take the case, what do you think will happen, charlie? >> i think without a doubt they have no choice but to take up the case because i...
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colorado gays are eager to open as many real gay bars as possible.year-old teenagers, after visiting such establishments, begin to consider themselves transgender. and if they are also black, then local social services will help them make a trans transition using public funds. for free. christmas present. it’s good that in our country it’s customary to deal with colorado pests. a $500 fee for gender-affirming treatment specifically for transgender people of color in northern colorado. our gender identity is one of the things we tend to attract attention to. being light and trans is extremely difficult, but when you have support like foundations, you have doctors, you understand that it is medically necessary to be able to become the person you want to be, it it becomes more accessible to be such a person. affordability can be a challenge, and some gender affirming services can be expensive, forcing some to go elsewhere. i actually personally know some who have gone down the black market route. research for 2020. showed that about 9% of trans people o
colorado gays are eager to open as many real gay bars as possible.year-old teenagers, after visiting such establishments, begin to consider themselves transgender. and if they are also black, then local social services will help them make a trans transition using public funds. for free. christmas present. it’s good that in our country it’s customary to deal with colorado pests. a $500 fee for gender-affirming treatment specifically for transgender people of color in northern colorado. our...
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you cite repeatedly the colorado case. in that case and frankly in these other cases i mentioned, its anti-trump group suing the secretaries of state. is that what you have in mind? >> well, good evening, brianna. it's great to be with you. thank you for having me on. you know, we are in uncharted territory in our country. and the decision out of colorado is a very significant fact. when the supreme court of colorado determines in an examination of the facts that donald trump is an insurrectionist and therefore is disqualified from being on the ballot, certainly here in california we have to look at that information and make the same determination here. >> okay. so, if you're saying to look at that and then just make that determination outright, michigan secretary of state jocelyn benson, for instance, said, quote, whether trump is eligible to run for president again is a decision not for secretaries of state but for the courts. i spoke with her today. she's not going to suddenly get involved in the michigan effort just be
you cite repeatedly the colorado case. in that case and frankly in these other cases i mentioned, its anti-trump group suing the secretaries of state. is that what you have in mind? >> well, good evening, brianna. it's great to be with you. thank you for having me on. you know, we are in uncharted territory in our country. and the decision out of colorado is a very significant fact. when the supreme court of colorado determines in an examination of the facts that donald trump is an...
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and now the supreme court of colorado by a 4-3 margin is saying, good enough, he's out. that is a violation of due process, and that is why i think this ruling from the colorado supreme court is going to be struck down by the u.s. supreme court. >> avalon, i want you to respond, but we'll get to three of the justices on the court, dissented because of due process concerns. >> there have been a lot of roadblocks in this effort based on a lot of people finding technicalities. the constitution says what it says, the colorado supreme court decided that the constitution still matters and it applies to donald trump. the 14th amendment, section 3 specifically says, we had the language up there, that no person who took an oath to uphold the constitution and engages in an insurrection or rebellion and gives aid or comfort, is eligible to hold any office, that's the language, any office. civil or federal. and people can parse, well, was it anticipated to be under a president? i know if you read the articles, the debates around ratification, senators at that time are saying, this i
and now the supreme court of colorado by a 4-3 margin is saying, good enough, he's out. that is a violation of due process, and that is why i think this ruling from the colorado supreme court is going to be struck down by the u.s. supreme court. >> avalon, i want you to respond, but we'll get to three of the justices on the court, dissented because of due process concerns. >> there have been a lot of roadblocks in this effort based on a lot of people finding technicalities. the...
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colorado's primary ballot. consequences of this decision be obviously enormous. the court upholding a trial judge's decision that trump engaged in the january 6th insurrection, and the colorado supreme court saying that therefore, he engaged in the insur eksz and he is not qualified to be a presidential candidate because of the 14th amendment insureccist ban. it says a person is ineligible to be on the ballot, to be president if they, quote, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. tonight's decision tees up an appeal to the supreme court of the united states which could settle the matter over the entire nation before the presidential republican primaries kick up in january and talk about the speed with which this has to move, evan perez live outside in washington. evan, this is not what most people expected and i don't know what they expected, but this was not it. here we are. you have a chance, a 133-page ruling and it was 4 pf 3. this was not unanimous a
colorado's primary ballot. consequences of this decision be obviously enormous. the court upholding a trial judge's decision that trump engaged in the january 6th insurrection, and the colorado supreme court saying that therefore, he engaged in the insur eksz and he is not qualified to be a presidential candidate because of the 14th amendment insureccist ban. it says a person is ineligible to be on the ballot, to be president if they, quote, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion or...
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however, colorado secretary of state thinks they made the right call. >> the colorado supreme court confirmed that the district court got it right. he did engage in insurrection. the 14th amendment has to apply, if not, it is get out of jail free card. >> harris: former president trump is looking to appeal colorado's ruling to the united states supreme court. he will take it higher, if he can. a case which almost certainly would decide. there are pending lawsuiting which would bar trump from the ballot. the former president reacted to last night's news during a campaign stop in iowa. >> they want to silence me because i will never let them silence you and they are not after me, they are after you, i just happen to be standing in their way. >> harris: he did not talk about the colorado case. gw u law professor jonathan turley thinks this decision did great damage to the colorado high court. >> jonathan: i think the opinion is really chilling and i think the supreme court will make fast work of thiss theory, i hope it does, it damaged its own integrity with this opinion. this is time we need de
however, colorado secretary of state thinks they made the right call. >> the colorado supreme court confirmed that the district court got it right. he did engage in insurrection. the 14th amendment has to apply, if not, it is get out of jail free card. >> harris: former president trump is looking to appeal colorado's ruling to the united states supreme court. he will take it higher, if he can. a case which almost certainly would decide. there are pending lawsuiting which would bar...
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but colorado supreme court disagreed with that part of the decision. the majority opinion here stating, quote, it seems most likely that the president is not specifically included because it is so evidently in office, added that the conclusion of the presidency is something other than an office in the under the united states is fundamentally at odds with the idea that all government officials including the president, serve we the people and yet the dissenting opinion here, offered legal toehold for trump when he inevitably appeals this ruling to the us supreme court as his team has made it clear they will. one dissenting supreme court justice concluding that a candidate should not be disqualified under the 14th amendment if they haven't been convicted of insurrection which of course is a federal crime. there's another justice here, carlos moore, also raising due process concerns and it's the trump campaign highlighting this comment from him in their talking points. quote, i've been involved in the justice system for 33 years now and what took place her
but colorado supreme court disagreed with that part of the decision. the majority opinion here stating, quote, it seems most likely that the president is not specifically included because it is so evidently in office, added that the conclusion of the presidency is something other than an office in the under the united states is fundamentally at odds with the idea that all government officials including the president, serve we the people and yet the dissenting opinion here, offered legal toehold...
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colorado saying we do. and now we'll get an answer from maine and perhaps the supreme court will weigh in and say whether colorado was correct. whether the 14th amendment can be executed by the state and whether there's other means such as congress doing it. >> norm it's so interesting how you answer that question because it illustrates how complicated that issue is, and how many different questions the u.s. supreme court could choose to take up. you brought up the issue of whether states have the power to cite the 14th amendment to keep people on or off the ballot there but what are the other questions that the supreme court could or should weigh in on? >> the number one question in the colorado republican party's filing with the supreme court late last night is, does the 14th amendment apply to presidents at all? it doesn't expressly mention presidents. it talks about officers of the united states. is donald trump an officer of the united states? was he, as an ex-president or not. the weight of scholarly
colorado saying we do. and now we'll get an answer from maine and perhaps the supreme court will weigh in and say whether colorado was correct. whether the 14th amendment can be executed by the state and whether there's other means such as congress doing it. >> norm it's so interesting how you answer that question because it illustrates how complicated that issue is, and how many different questions the u.s. supreme court could choose to take up. you brought up the issue of whether states...
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so what makes colorado different? and could yesterday's win make pending appeals in states where efforts have fallen through any stronger? i'll be speaking with the president of the advocacy group responsible for bringing the suit in a moment. but let's start with the reporting of what it means for 2024. joining us now, vaughn hillyard, lisa rubin and also steve patterson who is in denver for us. we'll get to you in a moment. give us a sense first with you, vaughn, what is donald trump saying right now? >> there is a lot on the line for donald trump. two major supreme court decisions pending. the supreme court could be ringing in the new year with donald trump and his legal team. for donald trump, he was on the campaign stage yesterday and he made it clear that he is putting pressure on the biden administration and the court system in turning his masses against what he says is political persecution. i think that this filing that just came out from his legal team to the supreme court to try to slow down the trial is ju
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in their filing, lawyers for the colorado republican party wrote, quote, the drastic effects of the coloradoe court's decision on the 2024 primary election necessitates this courts immediate review. as of tonight, the supreme court has yet to respond. in the meantime, under the terms of colorado courts ruling, trump's name will remain on the ballot for the states republican primary, which is set for march 5th. but what do we make of all of these decisions? how do we make sense of all of this? here is what we do know. these decisions add even more urgency to calls for the nation's highest court to intervene. right now, we are seeing different states take very different approaches to trump's 2024 run. it is a patchwork that exists only because the supreme court of the united states has never ruled on section three of the 14th amendment. these decisions will only continue to pop up across the country until there is final and decisive guidance from the country's top bench. and that needs to happen. it needs to happen quickly. remember, in just a matter of weeks, the first -- of the 2024 election
in their filing, lawyers for the colorado republican party wrote, quote, the drastic effects of the coloradoe court's decision on the 2024 primary election necessitates this courts immediate review. as of tonight, the supreme court has yet to respond. in the meantime, under the terms of colorado courts ruling, trump's name will remain on the ballot for the states republican primary, which is set for march 5th. but what do we make of all of these decisions? how do we make sense of all of this?...
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it is up to the colorado supreme court. neil: the betting is the court would not allow someone to be shoved off a ballot in these circumstances but i'm not a lawyer, i have no idea. is it your sense that is where this will go? >> i'm a lawyer but if i was a good lawyer i would still be practicing law. my views may not be that accurate. the supreme court likes to make decisions on relatively narrow basis without making precedent-setting decisions. they might be able to find a way to overturn this decision without making a precedent for everything else but we have to wait. the supreme court will make its decision soon whether it takes up the case. i suspect we will hear in the next few days or so. neil: let me ask you where you see the economy right now. that could decide this election, you said a recession is not in the offing in the next few quarters. the markets seem to be of that mind. may be the federal reserve found the sweet spot, to talk to the people at the white house they are overview this is the wind at their back
it is up to the colorado supreme court. neil: the betting is the court would not allow someone to be shoved off a ballot in these circumstances but i'm not a lawyer, i have no idea. is it your sense that is where this will go? >> i'm a lawyer but if i was a good lawyer i would still be practicing law. my views may not be that accurate. the supreme court likes to make decisions on relatively narrow basis without making precedent-setting decisions. they might be able to find a way to...
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and this colorado ruling is just, it plays into that.tical gift for him. >> it was the wrong decision for him to do? >> as, and it is going to play into this narrative, that everybody and their mother is trying to keep him off the ballot. and that is going to help him beyond justice crazy base. i believe. >> nayyera haq do you think the same thing? i mean obviously it's gonna be used, we heard the abraham lincoln can person sketch, right? but when you look at, it is this, if your strategist, is this what you want in terms of getting an advantage from biden? or, nikki haley, anyone else. >> colorado's abuse state, right? it's not like what happens in colorado, is going to change the direction of electoral college, and who gets the presidency. this is also a republican primary ballot measure, right? so republican party, being what it is, and trump running it these days, he could figure out something in some other way to manipulate the system, at scenes done so far. so it doesn't necessarily get anything in terms of changing the capitalists
and this colorado ruling is just, it plays into that.tical gift for him. >> it was the wrong decision for him to do? >> as, and it is going to play into this narrative, that everybody and their mother is trying to keep him off the ballot. and that is going to help him beyond justice crazy base. i believe. >> nayyera haq do you think the same thing? i mean obviously it's gonna be used, we heard the abraham lincoln can person sketch, right? but when you look at, it is this, if...
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there feel that he doesn't need the state of colorado to possibly win in 2024. so is it sort of meaningful for donald trump in their camp? maybe that's yet to be seen. but as of right now, if you feel that you don't after, when, why fi a, jason couldn't other states to what's just happened in colorado? absolutely. and in to other states, minnesota, in michigan. so they brought it to their state supreme court, calling donald trump and, and direction asked and under the 14th amendment and the same arguments that colorado used. but those states supreme court ruled against the people bringing the lawsuit because they felt that donald trump had not been convicted of anything. so his name will remain on those. now there are other states that feel that have usually left leaning or democratic governors, and they can basically go to the state supreme court and say, hey, we need to figure this out. we need to go to the go to the mat on this one. so i'm sure other states like georgia will come up with their legal ruling in very short order capital areas and mbc news radio.
there feel that he doesn't need the state of colorado to possibly win in 2024. so is it sort of meaningful for donald trump in their camp? maybe that's yet to be seen. but as of right now, if you feel that you don't after, when, why fi a, jason couldn't other states to what's just happened in colorado? absolutely. and in to other states, minnesota, in michigan. so they brought it to their state supreme court, calling donald trump and, and direction asked and under the 14th amendment and the...