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i didn't follow computer weekly. mps then became — i didn't follow computer weekly.me you signed that statement.— by the time you signed that statement. ., , ., .., by the time you signed that statement. ., , ., .. ., statement. that statement came from the business- — statement. that statement came from the business. you _ statement. that statement came from the business. you would _ statement. that statement came from the business. you would have - statement. that statement came from the business. you would have been i the business. you would have been aware by that _ the business. you would have been aware by that time _ the business. you would have been aware by that time of _ the business. you would have been aware by that time of second i the business. you would have been| aware by that time of second sight. i ask you to reflect very carefully on this because i don't want to have to put to you something which i haven't put to any other witness before in this inquiry, but it is obvious that you would have received briefings from those above you. whether they sti
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i think one of the computer magazines , the computer weekly, magazines, the computer weekly, computery , yeah, that's computer weekly, yeah, that's right, was was banging the drum on this and it feels to me slightly cynical in the sense that why has it taken this? what have got to do in order to have we got to do in order to highlight and got highlight things? and we've got to dramas? also to create itv dramas? well, also there election up, there is an election coming up, of up, of course, and it's flared up, but i am not entirely but i will say i am not entirely surprised itv surprised that it's taken an itv drama. if have like a plane drama. if you have like a plane crash a train crash or or crash or a train crash or or some people are murdered, you know, very to easy know, it's always very to easy gets up. know, the gets the blood up. you know, the blood leads or whatever. but, um , you know, these are the and there was loss of life. there were suicides and lives have been destroyed . but it's a very been destroyed. but it's a very slow burn. it's wide spread. it's people whose liv
i think one of the computer magazines , the computer weekly, magazines, the computer weekly, computery , yeah, that's computer weekly, yeah, that's right, was was banging the drum on this and it feels to me slightly cynical in the sense that why has it taken this? what have got to do in order to have we got to do in order to highlight and got highlight things? and we've got to dramas? also to create itv dramas? well, also there election up, there is an election coming up, of up, of course, and...
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the story was first broken back in 2009 by the magazine computer weekly and pursued doggedly over many years by them, by private eye, the daily mail and by the bbc, amongst others. we've come across dozens of examples similar to this, postmasters who... in 2011, nick wallis reported on the scandal on radio surrey and for bbc south. in this edition of the regional current affairs programme inside out. other bbc outlets followed that up, including panorama, the one show and file on four. nick wallis was involved in many of those programmes, including this 2022 panorama, repeated last week, and also presented a podcast series broadcast on radio four in 2020. later developed into a book called the great post office scandal. nick wallis, now a freelance journalist who was a consultant on that series, is here with me now. as you know, many people are asking, why did it take an itv drama after all these years to get this story really to everyone�*s attention? it's quite a complicated story. and in the early days, when you'd go to a busy broadcast news newsroom editor and say, "i've got a stor
the story was first broken back in 2009 by the magazine computer weekly and pursued doggedly over many years by them, by private eye, the daily mail and by the bbc, amongst others. we've come across dozens of examples similar to this, postmasters who... in 2011, nick wallis reported on the scandal on radio surrey and for bbc south. in this edition of the regional current affairs programme inside out. other bbc outlets followed that up, including panorama, the one show and file on four. nick...
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that is three years after you received those articles from computer weekly, etc.th of november, 2012, a 19th of february, 2013, as well as an exhibit, which is an extract from the supposed masters' contract. at the bottom of the page, it says, the crown's position on the integrity of the horizon system is set out in steep gradual�*s statement dated 20th of november, 2012. there is no further disclosure in relation to this matter. you havejust said that you're not very technically minded. do you think that the submission of a witness statement from you purporting to go to the integrity of the horizon system, do you think that was appropriate? know, because it depends on which statement — know, because it depends on which statement it is. there was a statement it is. there was a statement put through explaining the basics _ statement put through explaining the basics of— statement put through explaining the basics of horizon, that it was a keyboard. _ basics of horizon, that it was a keyboard, a scanner, a printer, the basic— keyboard, a scanner, a printer, the basi
that is three years after you received those articles from computer weekly, etc.th of november, 2012, a 19th of february, 2013, as well as an exhibit, which is an extract from the supposed masters' contract. at the bottom of the page, it says, the crown's position on the integrity of the horizon system is set out in steep gradual�*s statement dated 20th of november, 2012. there is no further disclosure in relation to this matter. you havejust said that you're not very technically minded. do...
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weekly, they were being circulated amongst his colleagues, these concerns about how horizon was operatingng about the suspected bugs or flaws in the system? and his response to that was i'm not technically minded. really, his position, which he has stuck to pretty rigidly all morning is that he was relying on the higher ups at the post office to alert him to any concerns around horizon. and what he kept saying was the higher—ups were not informing him of these issues. and he is essentially saying, i am not technical, it is not myjob to understand these issues. and the reason why this matters is that he would have been sat in various rooms across a desk looking at a sub—postmaster who he was investigating, who was telling him i didn't steal this money, this is a problem with the horizon system. one of the questions that so many people have in all of this is why didn't investigators like him do more to understand the horizon system. and his defence is that the higher—ups didn't tell me to. that was really an important part of the questioning this morning. an important part of the questionin
weekly, they were being circulated amongst his colleagues, these concerns about how horizon was operatingng about the suspected bugs or flaws in the system? and his response to that was i'm not technically minded. really, his position, which he has stuck to pretty rigidly all morning is that he was relying on the higher ups at the post office to alert him to any concerns around horizon. and what he kept saying was the higher—ups were not informing him of these issues. and he is essentially...
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. _ karl flinders is chief reporter at computer weekly.t problems which caused postmasters to be falsely accused of fraud 15 years ago. we saw what appeared to be a heartfelt apology today and transparency of fujitsu's role. it seemed heartfelt and transparent. how does that compare with your own experience of the company when reporting on this story? it was much anticipated because in the last ia years, every time i have called fujitsu i have had a simple no comment. they hide behind the contract with the post office and so you have got to speak to the post office about this but recently they have been hiding behind the inquiry, and i was looking forward to seeing them grilled by mps. i was quite surprised that they admitted to everything quite clearly, admitting to supporting the post office and their wrongful prosecution is and that they contributed dot to dot they will pay some ——... they will pay some money towards the costs. fujitsu said it should contribute to the compensation talked about and it talked about having a moral responsi
. _ karl flinders is chief reporter at computer weekly.t problems which caused postmasters to be falsely accused of fraud 15 years ago. we saw what appeared to be a heartfelt apology today and transparency of fujitsu's role. it seemed heartfelt and transparent. how does that compare with your own experience of the company when reporting on this story? it was much anticipated because in the last ia years, every time i have called fujitsu i have had a simple no comment. they hide behind the...
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so from . about the year 2009, the scandal was being circulated in the press, including computer weeklyccountants, consultants and others to look into various aspects of the horizon computer system and also the evidence that was being given about the system at trials. effectively, over that period, and some of those reports would have been passed to the board, they found that the post office was not able to account for all the cash that was going through it system. it found that a fujitsu expert seemed to have misled several trials by not disclosing bugs and then later it found issues with the support system and the fact the post office was unwilling or unable to help postmasters find problems on their computer software and was instead heading straight towards prosecution. really, the conclusion of all of this is you really have to ask how, when in 2015, the chief executive sat in front of the mps committee and said they had seen no evidence of miscarriages ofjustice, just how all of these reports could... hadn�*t reached the top table and hadn't led them to get to the bottom of what ha
so from . about the year 2009, the scandal was being circulated in the press, including computer weeklyccountants, consultants and others to look into various aspects of the horizon computer system and also the evidence that was being given about the system at trials. effectively, over that period, and some of those reports would have been passed to the board, they found that the post office was not able to account for all the cash that was going through it system. it found that a fujitsu...
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i did actually call him i told him that the computer weekly i him?making your investigations? ii i journalist, as you are making your investigations?— investigations? ifi go back sli . htl investigations? ifi go back slightly further _ investigations? ifi go back slightly further first - investigations? ifi go back slightly further first to - investigations? ifi go back. slightly further first to 2004, before i was at computer weekly, that was the first letter from alan bates to a genus called tony collins, but nothing happened with the story, but four years later, another supporter contacted, they put one on one together, to people, and one of my colleagues, rebecca thompson, did an investigation, she wrote the first story, and then she left a year later and i took over in 2010, but we saw there were quite a lot of threads from the post office from when rebecca was doing the first investigation, there was times, you are worried about being sued if you are suggesting a software doesn't work, there is a chance they might sue you, so you could sort of
i did actually call him i told him that the computer weekly i him?making your investigations? ii i journalist, as you are making your investigations?— investigations? ifi go back sli . htl investigations? ifi go back slightly further _ investigations? ifi go back slightly further first - investigations? ifi go back slightly further first to - investigations? ifi go back. slightly further first to 2004, before i was at computer weekly, that was the first letter from alan bates to a genus...
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now we can go to the computing side of the story and the editor of computer weekly. were hearing about this idea of back door access. what is meant by that time is that really the centre of the problem? is that really the centre of the troblem? , is that really the centre of the problem?— is that really the centre of the troblem? , ., ,, ., ., problem? this whole issue of what we call back door — problem? this whole issue of what we call back door access, _ problem? this whole issue of what we call back door access, remote - problem? this whole issue of what we call back door access, remote access i call back door access, remote access as they called it, has been a running question throughout the whole issue of the scandal. it was suggested quite early on that fujitsu, all the post office through fujitsu, all the post office through fujitsu, had the ability to remotely access all the computer systems that were within the sub postmasters branches and make changes on that system. now the post office consistently denied that this was even possible, let alone that they w
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there were reports as far back as 2010 in publications like computer weekly that were shared with you on for. well, the horizon it system was introduced in 1999, so this has been going on for more than two decades. 900 people were convicted, but actually, this entire scandal, if you like, involved thousands of people, because not everyone was convicted. you have cases of people who say they lost their homes because they were forced to pay back money to the post office that they were accused of stealing, but they weren't necessarily convicted of a criminal offence. but the effect of their lives was still extremely serious. people talking about lost homes, talking about their family members having to bail them out. and some very traumatic stories that have been relayed to this inquiry. the particular phase we are in is all about how these cases have been prosecuted by the post office, how these investigators like stephen bradshaw, and i should reiterate that he is just one of several investigators, this was not all on him, several investigators were involved, but that is the stage of th
there were reports as far back as 2010 in publications like computer weekly that were shared with you on for. well, the horizon it system was introduced in 1999, so this has been going on for more than two decades. 900 people were convicted, but actually, this entire scandal, if you like, involved thousands of people, because not everyone was convicted. you have cases of people who say they lost their homes because they were forced to pay back money to the post office that they were accused of...
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weekly began telling the stories of affected supposed martyrs that formed group to fight forjustice.e formed a group. in the judgment of a civil case, a fujitsu employee is quoted as saying in fabry 2006, this bug has been around for years. which the judge said meant they had long known about the effects in the software. in the civil case, thejudge ruled that horizon was not remotely reliable for at least the first ten years of its use. thejudge for at least the first ten years of its use. the judge found the icy system was prone to errors which could and did affect individual supposed martyrs' branch accounts. rice is still viewed by the post office, which describes related fusion as robust and says it's working on a new system the post office and jujitsu say they support the aims of the public inquiry as it seeks to right the wrongs of the past. i seeks to right the wrongs of the ast. ., , , seeks to right the wrongs of the ast, ., , , , ., , seeks to right the wrongs of the ast. , ,, ,, past. i lost my savings, business, m 'ob.i past. i lost my savings, business, myjob- i became _
weekly began telling the stories of affected supposed martyrs that formed group to fight forjustice.e formed a group. in the judgment of a civil case, a fujitsu employee is quoted as saying in fabry 2006, this bug has been around for years. which the judge said meant they had long known about the effects in the software. in the civil case, thejudge ruled that horizon was not remotely reliable for at least the first ten years of its use. thejudge for at least the first ten years of its use. the...
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and bear in mind, it was reported in 2009, in computer weekly , there were in computer weekly, therept prosecuting people until the mid 2010s, and paula vennells took that post office boss took that cbe in 2019, when it was widely known. but it really does feel like the big organisations and the big companies, the powers that be, will just close ranks and gang up on the ordinary people because they can and they think that they can get away with it. and we see it time and time again. i mean, this is one of many failures of state. we've had grenfell, we've had hillsborough, the tainted blood, you people treated you know, people treated atrociously and having to fight for decades and in many cases still waiting for any form of justice. >> okay. katherine forster, thank you for that excellent update. but now the day of reckoning has finally arrived. and earlier in the show, i was joined in the studio by lord james arbuthnot , and he led an james arbuthnot, and he led an mps campaign in support of subpostmasters and he told me why he got involved . it was why he got involved. it was a con
and bear in mind, it was reported in 2009, in computer weekly , there were in computer weekly, therept prosecuting people until the mid 2010s, and paula vennells took that post office boss took that cbe in 2019, when it was widely known. but it really does feel like the big organisations and the big companies, the powers that be, will just close ranks and gang up on the ordinary people because they can and they think that they can get away with it. and we see it time and time again. i mean,...
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, i would computer weekly, i would imagine.d be pointing it out them. um and you know, out to them. um and you know, i think applies to a lot of think this applies to a lot of the scandals that go on, you know, of, know, in the health service of, for we're getting know, in the health service of, for afterne're getting know, in the health service of, for after scandaltting know, in the health service of, for after scandal after scandal after scandal after scandal after scandal after scandal . what are scandal. what are the non—executive directors those non—executive directors of those trusts did they have an trusts doing? did they have an inkung trusts doing? did they have an inkling scandal going on, inkling of the scandal going on, or ask the right or did they not ask the right questions? um, there's there are ways in which this can all be improved, and governance can be improved. let's that to dennis. >> what should we learn from this ? how can actually this? how can we actually improve the structure how improve the structure
, i would computer weekly, i would imagine.d be pointing it out them. um and you know, out to them. um and you know, i think applies to a lot of think this applies to a lot of the scandals that go on, you know, of, know, in the health service of, for we're getting know, in the health service of, for afterne're getting know, in the health service of, for after scandaltting know, in the health service of, for after scandal after scandal after scandal after scandal after scandal after scandal ....
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weekly , private eye, computer weekly, private eye, um, and, and, and others. >> so , um, but yeah,s, is, is atrocious . uh, people should atrocious. uh, people should hang their heads in shame , but hang their heads in shame, but there needs to be proper accountability. and that accountability. and that accountability needs to go beyond. paula vennells. she clearly is up to her neck in it. but there's many, many others. i'll give you an example. our our cameron, who was the acting ceo of the post office, who took took over from paula vennells. it was his decision to recuse the judge in the group litigation order. now that that decision would have cost millions of pounds , uh, millions of pounds, uh, scandalous decision. it was it was in the dramatisation that they tried to get the judge sacked , and clearly the sacked, and clearly the government would have known about that. the minister can't say they didn't know about the post office policy to try and get the judge sacked. that get the judge sacked. and that was to try and win was all tactics to try and win the court case, which t
weekly , private eye, computer weekly, private eye, um, and, and, and others. >> so , um, but yeah,s, is, is atrocious . uh, people should atrocious. uh, people should hang their heads in shame , but hang their heads in shame, but there needs to be proper accountability. and that accountability. and that accountability needs to go beyond. paula vennells. she clearly is up to her neck in it. but there's many, many others. i'll give you an example. our our cameron, who was the acting ceo of...
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on a weekly basis with detailed coverage, this policy is making life so miserable for the palestinians that they eventually leave is effectively possible transfer. and that's a little crime. i'm fearless jen, it isn't. it's totally dark. we're using our own life. this is the only way that they have life and can cook. food are sleeping under the hot sun, collecting a limitless energy source, their own tri, hoses down to. so the panels on his roof, the decades, the number line on diesel, shipped in a great expense with crowds from the australian government. the island built itself a so the grid now they can capture and store fully energy they need kind on state fits future fossil fuels, no renewables. the natural gas from the gulf of thailand, power station funding, co shipped in from australia to transition away from fossil fuels could be relatively easy in china. but the government remains committed to colon guess the the the or a kyle, this is the news our life from the coming up in the next 60 minutes. the calls of moon is gather on the streets of berry for the funeral of assassinati
on a weekly basis with detailed coverage, this policy is making life so miserable for the palestinians that they eventually leave is effectively possible transfer. and that's a little crime. i'm fearless jen, it isn't. it's totally dark. we're using our own life. this is the only way that they have life and can cook. food are sleeping under the hot sun, collecting a limitless energy source, their own tri, hoses down to. so the panels on his roof, the decades, the number line on diesel, shipped...
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weekly. been going for long, long time, going on for a long, long time, and private eye course. and and private eye of course. and private eye, course. yes. private eye, of course. yes. sorry, i've forgotten. >> his been absolute private. >> i do deserve a mention in despatches here. >> they certainly do. >> they certainly do. >> but mps, they've >> but the mps, they've all known for ages, and. known about this for ages, and. and you know, and i can't believe you know, the this has over the publicity this has had over the publicity this has had over the week, is the last week, which is brilliant. i'm not knocking it. please, please don't get me wrong, but it should have happened ages and you know, happened ages ago and you know, and now all getting on and they're now all getting on the bandwagon, know, and the bandwagon, you know, and saying, oh yes, we need to do something it. why something about it. but why didn't it ages ago? didn't they do it ages ago? >> i understand your >> helen, i und
weekly. been going for long, long time, going on for a long, long time, and private eye course. and and private eye of course. and private eye, course. yes. private eye, of course. yes. sorry, i've forgotten. >> his been absolute private. >> i do deserve a mention in despatches here. >> they certainly do. >> they certainly do. >> but mps, they've >> but the mps, they've all known for ages, and. known about this for ages, and. and you know, and i can't believe...
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weekly doing computer weekly were doing a great and i didn't want to great job, and i didn't want toistsink on reflection be seen to be stealing their stojournalists to on reflection be seen to be stealing their stojournalists to the reflection be seen to be stealing their stojournalists to the media on be seen to be stealing their stojournalists to the media too, on journalists to the media too, should have focussed a lot more on this, which is one of the greatest, uh, scam calls really miscarriages of justice. but it's not the only miscarriage of justice that's gone on in government. i mean, there's the libor scandal where, uh, more than went to jail libor scandal where, uh, more tha offences went to jail libor scandal where, uh, more tha offences which went to jail libor scandal where, uh, more tha offences which now ant to jail libor scandal where, uh, more tha offences which now itt to jail libor scandal where, uh, more tha offences which now it now ail for offences which now it now appears, didn't really , uh, appears, didn't really, uh, occur. and what's more, it appears that
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i remember when computer story computer weekly broke this story ten years ago. >> computer weekly weregazine? >> but, mean, it was >> no, but, i mean, it was reported. you know, i'm not that much of but, you know. much of a nerd, but, you know. >> yeah, that's what that's it. >> it was a it. it was a bit of >> and then it was a bit of mainstream coverage, but it didn't get the traction until this christine, very quickly. um, i can't remember his >> um, i can't remember his name, but the government minister today, he minister who stood up today, he said may be some said that there may be some people guilty. yes, people who are guilty. well yes, of there but there's of course there may. but there's something called blackstone's ratio which says that it's better ten guilty people better that ten guilty people go free one innocent person free than one innocent person goes and that seems to goes to jail. and that seems to have completely have been completely turned on its well, definitely. have been completely turned on its look, well, definitely. have been completely turned on its look, \a
i remember when computer story computer weekly broke this story ten years ago. >> computer weekly weregazine? >> but, mean, it was >> no, but, i mean, it was reported. you know, i'm not that much of but, you know. much of a nerd, but, you know. >> yeah, that's what that's it. >> it was a it. it was a bit of >> and then it was a bit of mainstream coverage, but it didn't get the traction until this christine, very quickly. um, i can't remember his >> um,...
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first revealed by computer weekly nearly 15 years ago. concerns were raised. and really , um, people right across the political spectrum? um, yes, some have been working very hard to, to get this dealt with. but, you know , a lot of blame being you know, a lot of blame being thrown around. sir ed davey, one of about a dozen and post office ministers during the period, coming in for a lot of criticism , um, for pretty much just accepting what the post office said and what what they were told without probing into it. perhaps as deeply as he might have of sir keir starmer, the labour leader , being criticised, labour leader, being criticised, he was director of public prosecutions , questioned as to prosecutions, questioned as to why they didn't intervene. well, of course, labour are saying , of course, labour are saying, well he was in charge of public prosecutions as these were private prosecutions and also the scale of this extent of this was not clear either, but also, of course, difficult for the government. it's first emerge reports of
first revealed by computer weekly nearly 15 years ago. concerns were raised. and really , um, people right across the political spectrum? um, yes, some have been working very hard to, to get this dealt with. but, you know , a lot of blame being you know, a lot of blame being thrown around. sir ed davey, one of about a dozen and post office ministers during the period, coming in for a lot of criticism , um, for pretty much just accepting what the post office said and what what they were told...
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there have be serious computations on a weekly basis with detail coverage. this policy is making life so miserable for the palestinians that they eventually leave is effectively possible transfer. and that's a little crime. i'm fearless jen, it isn't. it's totally dark. we're using our own life. this is the only way that they have life and can cook food. a moment of prayer for waiting into the freezing waters of the rio grande. the youngest today just 2 months old. this is part of a huge search of migrants to reach the us border and recent days, over 4000 a day in the mexican state of while we live alone. all my friends have crossed to have cross. now, this is what lies in store for them. hours of waiting in the cold to be processed by overwhelmed custom and border patrol officers from the texas side of the border increase in illegal crossings. the result of smugglers moving large numbers of people through mexico budget cuts to me. immigration authorities here have meant they stop detaining and reporting on documented migrants in mexico, which was very hard
there have be serious computations on a weekly basis with detail coverage. this policy is making life so miserable for the palestinians that they eventually leave is effectively possible transfer. and that's a little crime. i'm fearless jen, it isn't. it's totally dark. we're using our own life. this is the only way that they have life and can cook food. a moment of prayer for waiting into the freezing waters of the rio grande. the youngest today just 2 months old. this is part of a huge search...
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there have be serious computations on a weekly basis with detail coverage. this policy is making life so miserable for the palestinians that they eventually leave is effectively possible transfer. and that's a little crime and fearless gen and isn't. it's totally dark. we're using our own life. this is the only way that they have life and can cook food, hard hitting into blues as a un ambassador position given to you by or does have both. you've described that is better than is better than any thoughts provided. hang on. my question to you all the good groups i think is the most difficult press than our part to answer facing realities. us veto in the security council. this is a may just don't think look is a problem to access it. you hear the story on talk to how does era slaving under the hot sun, collecting a limitless energy source, their own tri, hoses down to. so the panels on his roof, the decades, the and then relied on diesel, shipped in a great expense with crowds from the australian government. the island built itself a so the grid now they can cap
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there have be serious computations on a weekly basis with detail coverage. this policy is making life so miserable for the palestinians that they eventually leave is effectively forcible transfer. and that's a whole crime. i'm fearless jen, it isn't. it's totally dark. we're using our own life. this is the only way that they have life and can cook food. the gray christmas is quite literally coming early this year. it's decision to move away from both adults calendar to one of their lines with much of the rest of the world meant christmas day itself being brought forward to december the 25th. for the 1st time, the children have been lining up to meet nicholas in person. the original santa claus says the most common christmas wishy his is for peace. christmas shows the combined festive themes with a big serving of traditional ukrainian culture. offer an escape, if only briefly, from the realities of 2 years of full scale will, as with last year, they'll be no large scale events or fast jamal christmas because of the war. most 2 premiums will be celebrating the
there have be serious computations on a weekly basis with detail coverage. this policy is making life so miserable for the palestinians that they eventually leave is effectively forcible transfer. and that's a whole crime. i'm fearless jen, it isn't. it's totally dark. we're using our own life. this is the only way that they have life and can cook food. the gray christmas is quite literally coming early this year. it's decision to move away from both adults calendar to one of their lines with...
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there have be serious computations on a weekly basis with detailed coverage. this policy is making life so miserable for the palestinians that they eventually leave is effectively possible transfer. and that's a little crime and fearless gen and isn't. it's totally dark. we're using our own life. this is the only way that they have life and can cook food. is was part of why it's coalition government is that to not just seem does not much of itself. and it says apply, think about the possible inquiry and to be honest, free until the 7th moved and proposals to expand. old policy is from gaza. so how fraud side is is why is government? this is the inside story, the hello welcome to the program. i am how sion, how about a diesel as well and gaza has so fucking more than $23000.00 policy is october 7th. 56000 people have been injured with most of the population of 2300000. forced to move by these by the government driving that will is biting on the political front too. with deep divisions and hospitality is rocketing. a thursday's cabinet meeting. they say old poli
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there have be serious computations on a weekly basis with detailed coverage. this policy is making life so miserable for the palestinians that they eventually leave is effectively forcible transfer. and that's a little crime and fear this gen and isn't. it's totally dark. we're using our own life. this is the only way that they have life and can cook food. i guess the supreme court scraps a lifetime found on politicians with convictions from holding office. that's welcome. useful for my private as of now i should lease you cannot run again but not for jailed formerly to him wrong. com. why and what's behind this really. this is inside store the .
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weekly, magazine, computer weekly, which originally the story, who originally broke the story, who wonknighthood for originally the for originally working with the sub postmasters and mistresses to expose this. and then the mainstream media started to pick up on it. but it's scandalous. it has taken an itv documentary, itv don't want hear from >> i don't want to hear from this. lessons will be learned. no, should have no, this should never have happened. a travesty. it is. >> i am confident the inquiry, though the worst, seems to be doing think this doing quite well. i think this so far. >> but listen, i'm sorry. we will go on and on. kyrees. yes. we're so good. >> i'm sceptical. i'm sceptical about about about nana. i'm sceptical about inquiries generally . inquiries generally. >> partygate inquiry. >> partygate inquiry. >> this one, it seems to be >> but this one, it seems to be because like on friday, they made has made clear the post office has taken what? taken the. you know what? they haven't emails. taken the. you know what? they haven't them. emails. taken the. you know what? t
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there has to be serious computations on a weekly basis with detailed coverage. this policy is making like so miserable for the palestinians that they eventually leave is effectively forcible transfer. and that's a little crime and fearless gen and isn't. it's totally dark. we're using our own life. this is the only way that they have life and can cook food. i guess the supreme court scraps a lifetime found on politicians with convictions from holding office. that's welcome, useful. former private us of knowledge shut east, who cannot run again, but not for jailed formerly to him wrong. com. why? and what's behind this really? this is inside story, the hello welcome to the program. i'm a very instead of getting a started this week, a conviction with the person out from politics for life and practiced on the bus after the supreme court ruling on monday. not anymore. it's good news for politicians like full, the prime minister knowledge shelby's, but not so good for another full the premier iran calm who's currently in jail. the really only helps those who are bann
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rebecca thomson, the journalist who first broke the story in computer weekly, joins us now.you became involved. it started in 2008- we got _ when you became involved. it started in 2008. we got a _ when you became involved. it started in 2008. we got a letter— when you became involved. it started in 2008. we got a letter from - when you became involved. it started in 2008. we got a letter from lee - in 2008. we got a letterfrom lee castleton. we also had a letter from alan bates. and so ijust called both of them, listen to what they had to say. they wrote to us looking for technical expertise i think. unfortunately, they got me and all i could do was listen to their story. between us we went from there. we found other postmasters who had been through similar experiences. and to get people to go on the record, which back then was challenging, and slowly it built up a story we were able to publish. it took awhile to get through lawyers. to convince the publishers. it was a bit of a challenge but eventually we got there. ~ ., , ., challenge but eventually we got there. ~ ., y.,
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but computer weekly back in, back in, in 29, you've also you also had private eye started in 2011. 2020 running a whole magazine on, you know, on just this in the post or injustice in the post. and then you've had panorama two big panorama you've, you've actually with that very good bbc journalist nick wallace, who's written a tremendous book in 2021. so it was in the public domain. and and the producers and writers of the programme admit that they relied to a lot in their research on, on, on media, on media articles and broadcasts. so this is a massive failure. and i just wonder, being a cynic, i just wonder if it wasn't an election year, whether the whether parliament would be reacting the way that it had and the government would be reacting way it is now? be reacting the way it is now? well, i think you made a number of interesting points there, stephen. >> what i want to focus on is, is because is the here and now, because this, this thing has been exposed over many, many years, but it now turns out that in the government's it take government's view, it can take effective actio
but computer weekly back in, back in, in 29, you've also you also had private eye started in 2011. 2020 running a whole magazine on, you know, on just this in the post or injustice in the post. and then you've had panorama two big panorama you've, you've actually with that very good bbc journalist nick wallace, who's written a tremendous book in 2021. so it was in the public domain. and and the producers and writers of the programme admit that they relied to a lot in their research on, on, on...
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she was a young reporter on computer weekly in 2008. she was given the.ard and she realised almost immediately that this was the tip of the iceberg. so she's the hero from our business. great cracking nomination. >> your headline hero paul my hero is alan bates, who i think should be given a peerage and my hero is paula vennells , who hero is paula vennells, who should give all the money back. >> oh , brilliant. >> oh, brilliant. >> oh, brilliant. >> nicely put. succinct as well. linda, who is your headline hero? >> i really admire yvonne taylor. who's the woman who is standing in kingston against ed davey think a lot davey. i think it takes a lot to, to campaign as an mp as particularly as an independent. but she's campaigning with a grandson who's a councillor in the area and they said they're not in the business of losing. >> wow. >> wow. >> you m she m— >> do you think she could take the sir davey. >> do you think she could take the well, sir davey. >> do you think she could take the well, people davey. >> do you think she could take the well, people
she was a young reporter on computer weekly in 2008. she was given the.ard and she realised almost immediately that this was the tip of the iceberg. so she's the hero from our business. great cracking nomination. >> your headline hero paul my hero is alan bates, who i think should be given a peerage and my hero is paula vennells , who hero is paula vennells, who should give all the money back. >> oh , brilliant. >> oh, brilliant. >> oh, brilliant. >> nicely put....
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the fantastic computer weekly online magazine , which helped break magazine, which helped break thisaled the post office was determined to keep a lid on the horizon problems. to do this , the problems. to do this, the magazine claims it instructed staff in its call centre, which was the first contact point for subpostmaster was having problems to tell callers that they were the only ones experiencing problems is a flat lie . it went further than this lie. it went further than this by using its lawyers and cash resources to defend itself against accusations in court. if necessary. so, for example , the necessary. so, for example, the post office spent . £300,000 post office spent. £300,000 going after lee castleton , a going after lee castleton, a subpostmaster in bridlington , subpostmaster in bridlington, over a discrepancy of 35 grand. he was bankrupted by the case. his life destroyed whenever a victim did seek to employ an independent, it expert. the post office would immediately back down and settle out of court . down and settle out of court. but to others they showed no mercy.
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there have be serious computations on a weekly basis with detail coverage. this policy is making life so miserable for the palestinians that they eventually leave is effectively possible transfer. and that's a whole crime. i'm fearless jen, it isn't. it's totally dark. we're using our own life. this is the only way that they have life and can cook food. the welcome back to watching out is there a mind at the top stories? the sound of noises really? asteroid some targets in southern guns, a number of engine people have been taken to a hospital in rough. these 18 palestinians were killed in the talking. cleanliness, is there any forces have reports in the arrested and beaten several palestinians during more nightly rates and at least 9 towns neil to plunge west 5 exchanges of font had in positive numbers us next year say on me blinking as well as in tech, a on his 5th visit to the middle east since we moved again. he will be looking to ease tensions across the region. authorities in israel reporting reco, none of the ministry casualties as the all me engages h
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weekly back in 2009, when they were literally hundreds of stories in the media and on tv in papers too this and yet progress on getting justice has moved at snail's pace. and we've seen this over and over again . seen this over and over again. we saw it with hillsborough , we saw it with hillsborough, when basically the police cover up their mistakes and liverpool fans were blamed. we've seen it with the tainted blood scandal. people still . waiting 30, 40, 50 people still. waiting 30, 40, 50 years after terrible wrongs were done to them for justice. these huge failures of the state, we see them again and again and again. let's hope that with this one, with the focus that's on this, that things will finally start to move . start to move. >> political correspondent katherine forster, thank you. i just want to bring our viewers and listeners, paula vennells statement that, uh, she is returning her cbe and she says that i have so far maintained my silence as i considered it inappropriate to comment publicly while the inquiry remains ongoing and before i have provided my oral evidence, i a
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. >> news broken in >> the news was broken in computer weekly.g out of a technical magazine and did amazing magazine and they did an amazing work can work on that. but people can only hold sort of big issues and understandably, that's a understandably, that's not a criticism how people criticism. it's just how people are. beings in the are. it's human beings in the same you know, you've got same way, you know, you've got the gaza conflict going the israel gaza conflict going on, means people are on, which means fewer people are talking which talking about ukraine, which means talking means fewer people are talking about to no one's about yemen next to no one's talking the rohingya talking about the rohingya crisis in crisis and the civil war in burma anymore. all these burma anymore. and all these things, move to things, because you move on to the next thing, people living busy lives. >> but in i think what >> but in a way, i think what that me is we've got that tells me is that we've got a political class who are reacting to the media the reacti
. >> news broken in >> the news was broken in computer weekly.g out of a technical magazine and did amazing magazine and they did an amazing work can work on that. but people can only hold sort of big issues and understandably, that's a understandably, that's not a criticism how people criticism. it's just how people are. beings in the are. it's human beings in the same you know, you've got same way, you know, you've got the gaza conflict going the israel gaza conflict going on,...
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computer weekly broke the story . uh, private eye broke the story.private eye was fantastic , and the times has was fantastic, and the times has been doing something and gradually people have been latching on to the story. but i'm delighted that at last it's hit the public imagination. and i don't care how. frankly, i'm not frustrated that it's a drama that has done this . i was that has done this. i was frustrated that nothing was doing it for the years . i mean, doing it for the years. i mean, i've been on this since 2009, and it was very difficult to get it into the media or to get politicians to take the interest that they should have taken. what about us? >> what about fujitsu? because we will ask you about paula vennells and the post office. but fujitsu , who supplied this but fujitsu, who supplied this dodgy horizon it system , um, dodgy horizon it system, um, £150 million compensation has been paid out already. i don't think a single penny has come out of fujitsu's coffers , and we out of fujitsu's coffers, and we know that they're getting mo
computer weekly broke the story . uh, private eye broke the story.private eye was fantastic , and the times has was fantastic, and the times has been doing something and gradually people have been latching on to the story. but i'm delighted that at last it's hit the public imagination. and i don't care how. frankly, i'm not frustrated that it's a drama that has done this . i was that has done this. i was frustrated that nothing was doing it for the years . i mean, doing it for the years. i...
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weekly, the magazine, exposed this as being ineffective and individuals pillars of communities.icularly pensioners , and particularly pensioners, and it's their interface with officialdom they trust it. these people, they give us their pubuc people, they give us their public service, these postmasters and postmistresses. they were absolutely thrown under the bus with catastrophic effects. oftentimes in terms of their reputations, their lives, their reputations, their lives, their careers and now they must get justice. we cannot stop fujitsu surely must be culpable for the public. taxpayer cannot be expected to pick up for those mistakes . we must see this mistakes. we must see this through until the end. and i really, really do hope that the we are facing that process and we are facing that process and we finally might get a resolution that so many people out there absolutely and utterly deserve. so thank you to alan bates. thank you to everyone who's contacted us. thank you for everybody over the years who's actually gone and put forward the pressure on this. okay. that's for a
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we are joined now by brian glick, the editor in chief of computer weekly, which first exposed this story— fujitsu in public, what do you think you want to hear? good morning. yes, ou are you want to hear? good morning. yes, you are right. — you want to hear? good morning. yes, you are right. this _ you want to hear? good morning. yes, you are right, this is _ you want to hear? good morning. yes, you are right, this is the _ you want to hear? good morning. yes, you are right, this is the first _ you are right, this is the first time since all this began that we are going to hearfrom time since all this began that we are going to hear from somebody senior at fujitsu based direct questions in parliament about their role in this whole scandal. right from the start since we were the first to write about this in 2009, fujitsu has always been, no comment, no comment, refer everybody to the post office, ask your questions to the post office. so i think everybody is going to be looking to somebody senior from fujitsu to stand up, i wouldn't go as far as to say some of the blame because in public
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computer weekly did a brilliant and, you know, the brilliant job and, you know, the bbc panorama, therehese this panorama, you know these this was known in the was sort of known in the background quite some background for quite some time, but drama and but it took that that drama and i think that drama at that moment when we probably were all post—christmas , sitting on our post—christmas, sitting on our sofas watching the big, you know, 9 pm. drama for it to burst into the public consciousness. >> yeah , one can only be >> yeah, one can only be grateful that it has . but we grateful that it has. but we should also question why it's taken. >> so whose side are the politicians are on? that's why i want to ask whose side are they actually on? are they theirs actually on? are they on theirs or think know the or are ours? i think i know the answer well. >> they're looking i suppose >> they're looking at, i suppose the is they're looking at the issue is they're looking at the issue is they're looking at the bigger politicians who do need to look at a bigger picture the bigger politicians who
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but when a new computer system, horizon, was introduced in around the year 2000, the weekly accountspost office blamed jane and tony, said it was only them, and made them make up the shortfalls. oseto can't afford the pay this money all the time. well, we will take it out of your salary if you don't pay. in the end, we borrowed from family to put the money in. they knew and they were treating everybody abominably. i they knew and they were treating everybody abominably.— they knew and they were treating everybody abominably. i declared my cash, everybody abominably. i declared my cash. declared _ everybody abominably. i declared my cash, declared most, _ everybody abominably. i declared my cash, declared most, have _ everybody abominably. i declared my cash, declared most, have done i everybody abominably. i declared my cash, declared most, have done it i cash, declared most, have done it all three _ cash, declared most, have done it all three times and is still targeted to balance. a all three times and is still targeted to balance. all three times and is still tarueted to balance.
but when a new computer system, horizon, was introduced in around the year 2000, the weekly accountspost office blamed jane and tony, said it was only them, and made them make up the shortfalls. oseto can't afford the pay this money all the time. well, we will take it out of your salary if you don't pay. in the end, we borrowed from family to put the money in. they knew and they were treating everybody abominably. i they knew and they were treating everybody abominably.— they knew and they...