west. >> cornell west is running for president as an independent and his candidacy is bringing concerns from the democrats he could take enough votes from joe biden to insure a second trump term. what does cornell west have to say about this? he joins me now. goods to see you. glad you're joining the slow this evening. you have undoubtedly heard all the conversation surrounding this phrase of being a spoiler. you said you're not going to be a spoiler in the race but there is data from the 2016 election that shows for example jill stein a major factor in trump winning states like michigan wisconsin and pennsylvania over say hillary clinton. tell me why are you sure that is not going the case with your run as an independent? >> first i want to thank you for letting me on the show and salute you. you have a great show and i applaud you. >> go tigers. thank you so much. >> no, you and i know this is a very, very fluid moment. i'm not convinced that brother biden is going to be the candidate for the democratic party. i think he's going to [indistinct] and carville, calling for him to pull ba

west. >>> cornel west is running for president as an independent, and his candidacy is bringing with it concerns in the democratic party that he could actually end up taking enough votes away from joe biden to ensure a second trump term. so what does cornel west have to say about all of this? well, he joins me now. so good to see you. i'm glad you're joining the show this evening. you have undoubtedly heard all of the conversations surrounding this phrase of being a spoiler. you said you're not going to be a spoiler in the race. but there is some data from the 2016 election that shows, for example, jill stein actually a major factor in trump winning states like michigan or wisconsin and pennsylvania over, say, hillary clinton. tell me why are you so sure that that's not going to be the case with your run as an independent? >> well, first, i just want to thank you for being on the show and salute you. you've got a wonderful show. we all applaud you. >> go tigers. thank you so much. >> but, no, you and i know this is a very, very fluid moment. i'm not convinced that brother biden is ev

cornel west with one l.ornel west 01. >> absolutely. >> but i should give you something, my brother. good to see you. >> we appreciate you being here, man. i didn't know you were going to be here. >> no, but this is c-span, right? >> c-span. >> c-span, that's right. and they just run it. wonderful. >> thank you so much. [inaudible conversations] >> this way. [inaudible conversations] >> you had your coat. >> you have them? >> oh, you've got the key? >> there's so many pockets in this new coat. >> no, we're going to find the keys. oh, there we go. there we go. we can't leave without the key. >> this way. >> yeah, there you go. there you go. all right. god bless you. >> you see what i've been doing all day. >> i know. >> hey, i'm ready. i said i'm ready. i tell you after today. >> all right. >> c-span's campaign 2024 coverage continues with the presidential primaries and caucuses. watch live on the c-span network as the first votes in the country are cast in the upcoming presidential election, along with candi

., cornell west, even joe manchin floated out there.rious, are they not, are they going to be a factor here? >> i think that they will be a factor and they could be a serious factor. not in the sense that they could ultimately be major contender for the presidency, but in the sense that they could peel votes away from a biden or even a trump. if you are cornell west, you are obviously more progressive and we see the progressive base of the democratic party is very unhappy with biden's handling of the israel-hamas war and just in general not enthusiastic about biden. so that could certainly help cornell west. for a while we saw republicans south of touting rfk jr. because the theory was that he would take away votes from biden in a democratic primary. but now that he is running as an independent, we've gotten a look at rfk supporters, rfk has drawn a huge umbrella of supporters both trump and biden and those in between. so i think that there is concern on the prprepublican side that could draw votes away from donald trump. >> and this is

he is trying to say that people like cornell west, we should go for republican. republicans are the party of business. i do not favor the democrats too much. we need to consider our options this time. trump could be very bad. i'm also not in favor of the cap process -- capitalist system. i think the economic downturn, you always lame it on the party in power -- blame it on the party in power. host: have you decided whether you will vote for a major party or are you looking at a third-party or independent candidate? caller: cornell west would be, but i might have to vote for biden, democrat, just a block trump. 75% of americans do not want either biden or trump. thank you for letting me on and i hope people take this seriously and come up with a good interpretation of the facts. host: let's go to jonathan, calling from capital, florida the republican line. caller: good morning. how are you? we can vote republican or democrat. the choices are very clear. the public does not want that. since i was born in 1980, the whole system has really erupted and is going furthe

he is trying to say that people like cornell west, we should go for republican. republicans are the party of business. i do not favor the democrats too much. we need to consider our options this time. trump could be very bad. i'm also not in favor of the cap process -- capitalist system. i think the economic downturn, you always lame it on the party in power -- blame it on the party in power. host: have you decided whether you will vote for a major party or are you looking at a third-party or independent candidate? caller: cornell west would be, but i might have to vote for biden, democrat, just a block trump. 75% of americans do not want either biden or trump. thank you for letting me on and i hope people take this seriously and come up with a good interpretation of the facts. host: let's go to jonathan, calling from capital, florida the republican line. caller: good morning. how are you? we can vote republican or democrat. the choices are very clear. the public does not want that. since i was born in 1980, the whole system has really erupted and is going furthe

and the highest margin in american political history is 20%, and for robert kennedy and cornel west is right at 30% which is interesting. >>> and now, coming to the president of harvard is some who haven been critical of her of her anti-semitism comments on capitol hill. >>> and now, elon musk has allowed alex jones back on twitter, and why does he want him there? >> one of harvard's governing bodies is meeting again today as the president is facing pressure to step udine gay is one of thet black presidents of harvard. and after the testimony on capitol hill about antis anti-semitism, there is growing backlash. much of the faculty is actually backing gay, and more than 600 faculty members have signed a petition in support of her, and jason carroll is now joining us from cambridge, massachusetts, and so, do we have sense of what is going on and what is being discussed in the meetings? >> well, first, let me tell you that it is clear from the petition that claudine gay has the supporters on campus, and yesterday, the number was at 300, and today, more than 600, but what is also clear is

hear from hakeem jeffries and in nebraska we caught up with the cornell west who is running as an independent. it also highlights from this year's lesser-known candidates forum. first, a conversation with a des moines register reporter, katie aiken. she told us about the state of the race for the republican presidential nomination in iowa, which holds its caucuses in less than six weeks. >> and iowa we are still seeing former president donald trump leading the polls by a significant margin. in our most recent iowa poll he was at 43% among likely republican caucus goers. that is 27% above where ron desantis and nikki haley are. they were both polling at 16%. he is still very popular in iowa and it remains to be seen if anyone will close that gap a little bit or allow a first-place upset win at the january 15 caucus. >> describe the rally that he had and his strategy in iowa? katie: sure. former president trump had two stops in iowa last weekend. the first was a much smaller stop than he usually does. it was just at a bar outside of the des moines metro, and at that stop he was encouraging iowa

hear from hakeem jeffries and in nebraska we caught up with the cornell west who is running as an independentit also highlights from this year's lesser-known candidates forum. first a conversation with a des moines register reporter katie aiken. she told us about the state of the race for the republican presidential nomination in iowa, which holds its caucuses in less than six weeks. >> and iowa we are still seeing former president donald trump leading the polls by a significant margin. in our most recent iowa poll he was at 43% among likely republican caucus goers, 27 percentage points above where ron desantis and nikki haley are . they were both bowling at 16%. -- holding -- polling at 16%. he is still very popular and iowa and it remains to be seen if anyone will close that gap a little bit or allow a first-place upset win at the january 15 caucus. >> describe the rally that he had and his strategy in iowa? >> sure, former president trump had two stops in iowa last weekend. the first was a much smaller stopped than he usually does. it was just at a bar outside of the des moines metro, and

cornell west, he might be right.olitico is reporting that biden is increasingly consumed by hunter biden's legal troubles, how could you not be? and the publication says, "privately fears about the upcoming campaign and potential criminal trial have become ever present weight on the president," according to those close to him. you can see it in his eyes and you can see his shoulder slumps says one confident of president biden, in describing a recent conversation, he's so worried about biden and we're worried it could consume him and this comes just days afternoon axios reported this, biden suggested to close associates that if he had not run in 2020 hunter would not be facing criminal prosecution or be the target of daily stories by conservative media. all while trying to stay sober and rebuild his life. interesting. so is the president reconsidering his second term ambitions? i can tell you one thing. america would collectively sigh in relief. joining us now with reaction, democratic strategist doug, joe, and a seni

independent presidential candidate cornell west spoke to voters during a campan stop in omaha, nebraska. he talked about the role of americans and making changes in society using their voices and their votes. [applause]

west spoke to a crowd posted by agenda alliance. afterward, he met and took pictures with many of those in attendance. >> be willing. to see willing to move willing to get your timing right, when to pull back on your solo to allow someone else to solo. let mary louise william penna, she pulls back when the saxophonist steps in or when the flutist steps in why? because they are lifting and forced to enhance the quality of the collective performance. that's democracy in symbolic action. it's a form of practical wisdom. it's not just a technical skill that jazz musicians have the black people at our best have holed out practical wisdomla soe can be tricksters when it's time to be tricksters. we can have strong, strong nationalist time to take a stance that we love our children what it looks like they're making a bad turn, but never give up on them. even though sometimes you want to. what's going on? and improvisation, which means what? call into question any form of narrow dogmatism. what the great -- also policy of dogmatic banality.

>> i would say cornell west. >> okay. kerry in illinois. good morning. >> good morning. what i am noticing here is that the problem is that some people don't understand. i oppose the impeachment because joe biden has not done anything wrong. donald trump, uv rays, lysol, didn't even want to tell people that covid was around. people want to vote for a man that is ruining this country. you got two to vote for. you vote for passes him -- fascism or democracy. if trump wounds you were going to get fascism and the world is going to crumble. you are not going to have medicare or social security. than the guy from florida, ron desantis. doesn't even have insurance for their homes. >> we are going to leave this and go to capitol hill. law enforcement officials and advocates will testify about the rise of organized crime at retail stores. live coverage here on c-span three.

., joe manchin, and cornell west.upport the right to choose are more likely to vote on abortion ballot measures. joining us now from the institute of politics at harvard university, john della volpe, msnbc contributor, and the author of the book entitled, "fight, how gen-z is channelling their passion to save america," out now in paperback. it is great to have you to talk about this, which was just out, the polls you did. overall, what are you finding about sort of the state of mind of the younger electorate? >> yeah, thanks again, mika and joe, for having me again. you know, this is an opportunity we had to speak to a couple thousand young americans. there's been a lot of conversation the last month or so, looking across tabs of a couple hundred young americans. we're seeing three big things. the first, president biden is in solid shape, i'd say, in a two-way matchup against president trump today. one. the second thing is, as you can see, it gets much more complicated with multiple independent candidates in the field

cornell west threatening to peel away arab voters from biden in michigan.ack in 1979, little interview in delaware, joe biden said jimmy carter should not run for re-election. jim jordan's polls were bad and inflation was high. joe, does that sound a tad familiar? fearless tommy and podcast host tooter dixon. sounds like joe biden of 1979 makes sense. wonder if he is sieeing what th rest of us are seeing that he is not aware of how much jeopardy he is in. >> i think the fact he said that so long ago he has been in politics far too long. does he remember he said that? sure not. probably remembers story of small kitchen fire than legitimate comments about jimmy carter. democrats desperate to get rid of joe and confident about election strategy. he does not want to step down. e go man yak and narcissist. democrats still feel good. they have early voting and ground game tried, tested and true. republicans i know it seems it is desperate. never underestimate their eights. >> tooter, i i think we have a picture. she was an elector for joe biden. woman trying to t

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independent presidential candidate cornell west spoke to voters during a campan stop in omaha, nebraska. he talked about the role of americans and making changes in society using their voices and their votes. [applause] >> what a blessing to be here. omaha, nebraska. what an honor and privilege. what a blessing and joy. thank you so very much. i want to begin by saluting my dearly beloved. she is a poet as well. thank you for your love and tremendous support and for trying to keep me sane because that's a challenge. [laughter] i have been a black man in america for a long time. [laughter] if i could be in my right mind five days of the week -- give it up again for my beloved. [applause] something is happening. the moment we got off of the plane, we ran into a courageous campaign manager. we got for campaign managers. [applause] just in brooklyn. then we ran into brother anthony. as you all know he's been the embassy and orchestrator and conductor but he is extraordinary. visionary, for real, brilliant. [applause] i got the chance to meet his magnificent partner. that's the first event w

however, with the independents, cornel west and rfk jr., is and even joe manchin not in the race, that lead is cut by a third down to 16%. so winning the youth vote is not enough. he's got to win it big. your concerns about the presence of these independents? >> well, if you look at the last few elections that we had for president of the united states of america, each candidate, he or she put together a broad coalition. but the one consistent thing we've seen within the democratic party is that young voters are an essential part of success. so those numbers you just quoted, i believe that joe biden will basically get back to those numbers, and possibly exceed them, because right now we're not in sort of a head-to-head race between joe biden and kamala harris and whoever the republican presidential nominee will be. the independents, it gives the voters an opportunity to look at another candidate. will those independents be able to make the ballot and will they be on the ballot in november of next year? maybe, maybe not. ultimately, i believe once it sort of becomes a head-to-head matchu

it might be that, but there could be a no labels, a cornell west, a bobby kennedy, a jill stein. there's a lot of football left. that's all i can say. anybody that thinks they know where it's going to end, my hats off to youi don't have any idea >> i don't think any of us has any idea where this things is going. james, let's continue this conversation down the road as we always do. thanks so up many for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. go saints, go pelicans. >> go bills. just ahead, european officials arrest four suspected hamas members planning attacks on jewish targets. we have new information and details and we'll share them with you right after a quick break. >>> tonight european officials say they thwarted a terror plot involving four suspected hamas members who were planning attacks on jewish targets in europe. brian todd is monitoring the story for us. brian, how serious is this threat? >> reporter: german officials say it is very serious, involving planning, weapons and orders from the highest ranks of hamas. the terror group waging war on israel attempting strikes on tar

pulling 20% in michigan, cornell west getting 6%, that, in addition to trump having some strength clearly, this is another threat coming to joe biden from another direction. >> look at those two numbers. there is only an 11 percentage difference between joe biden and rfk in michigan. that's a snapshot as are all polls. let's look at what would happen if one of the other republican candidates were to match up against joe biden. >> we tested ron desantis and nikki haley you will see in michigan haley is walloping president biden, tram, we noted is at 50% to 40%, and desantis in michigan has a seven point lead, 49% to 42%. >> and we looked at the characteristics that people are looking for in their candidate. >> it's a bit of a goldilocks kind of question and exactly what you are looking for, and that's what we asked, we said which candidate exactly has the attributes that you want in a president. nobody has exactly everything but, take a look here, on temperament, in georgia, 20% of people say biden has exactly the temperament they are looking for, not too different than what trump has, 18%

., and progressive scholar cornell west, who could turn into wild cards in the general election.e, embattled congressman george santos expelled. the u.s. house voted to expel the new york republican after a scathing ethics report in a year-long swirl of controversy about santos' litany of lies. santos becomes just the sixth member in history to be expelled from congress, and the third since the civil war. after winning a battleground house district, major pieces of santos' biography fell apart, including his claims around his education, professional experience, and family background. santos was later indicted on federal charges, including wire fraud and money laundering. but pleaded not guilty and has denied the allegations. >> i'm not really commenting on the ongoing investigation. >> reporter: he reemerged soon after being removed from office on the celebrity video message site cameo. >> happy, happy birthday. >> reporter: number two, kevin mccarthy becomes the first house speaker removed from the post. mccarthy's ouster came ten months after he claimed the gavel. following a f

and cornell west in michigan, trump falls to 39% and biden to 31% and in georgia, trump has a 49-44% edge over biden with 7% saying they would not back either. the challenges for biden are coming into sharper view. >> trump just talks the talk. we walk the walk. frankly, he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. >> the things that could drive the race are trump's numerous legal charges. in fgeorgia and michigan, nearl half of voters say if true, they should disqualify him from the presidency. is president was campaigning in philadelphia tonight at a fund-raiser and just a short time ago, he said that the fundamentals of democracy are at stake. that is one of the central issues why he is struggling so much at this point in georgia and michigan. long before we know if there will be a rematch between trump and biden, the iowa caucus is four weeks from tonight. as of tonight, donald trump has a commanding lead in the race. no doubt about it. all eyes are on the race for second place, which is still between nikki haley and ron desantis. >> thank you very much. let's break down the

and cornel west, who could turn into wild cards in the general election. >>> number 3, embattled congressmaneorge santos expelled. >> don't care. >> the u.s. house voted to expel the republican after a scathing ethics the report in a year-long swirl of controversy about santos' litany of lies. santos becomes just the sixth member in history to be expelled from congress. and the third since the civil war. >> why would i want to say here? to hell with this lace. >> major pieces of his biography fell apart, including his claims around his education, professional experience and family background. santos was later indicted on federal charges including wire fraud and money laundering, but plead ed not guilty and has denied the allegations. >> i'm not commenting on the ongoing investigation. >> santos reemerged soon after being removed from office opt the celebrity video message site cram owe. >> happy, happy birthday. >> number two, kevin mccarthy becomes the first house speaker removed from the post. mccarthy's ouster came ten months after he claimed the gavel. following a floor fight that went f

. >> kayleigh: that is right, i was reading politico, interview with cornel west running third party,duous process. on joe biden's nomination he said this, i'm not sure whether i'll be running against biden, i think biden will have an lbj moment and pull back. he is running out of gas. >> dagen: since it is the holiday season, you are at the season and have a drinky drink, would you hand your keys to joe biden to drive you in your own car home for free or in tight financial times, would you pay for an uber? hands down, you are not letting that man drive your car, not even around the parking lot of kroger. i don't think it is off base for a lot of people to think he will not run, if you listen to david axelrod. what is it going to take for joe biden to step out of the way? i don't have the answer. one thing i know, we mentioned approval rating, 33%, almost in the twos, that whoever runs for democrats will represent the same policy that got us where we are. this commander in calamity and cohorts inflicted pain and suffering on the american people and for almost three years routinely moc

and cornell west, trump falls to 39% and biden, 31%. and in georgia, trump has a 49 to 44% edge over biden, with 7% saying they would not back either. >> the challenges for biden are coming into sharp review. >> frankly he doesn't know what he's talking about. >> one of the biggest challenges for the president is the economy. the majority of voters in michigan and georgia say biden's policies have contributed to a worsening personal economic view for them but we will get to that in a moment. five weeks tonight, the iowa caucuses open. now trump has a commanding lead but he's not taking it for granted, he's going back to iowa wednesday and he's been campaigning in a different way, he's actually running a campaign this time. one interesting number from the iowa poll today was at first time caucus goers who the trump campaign is going after, 63% of them support trump. eight years ago, very loosely structured campaign, this year it's the best campaign out there. it's one of the reasons he has a commanding lead but the race for second place

and cornell west, trump falls to 39% and biden to 31%.gia, trump has a 49% to 44% edge over biden the poll found with 7% saying that they would not back either. chal nlgss for biden are coming into sharper view. >> trump talks the talk. we walk the walk. >> re frankly, he doesn't know what the hell he is talking about. >> reporter: among the many factors are trump's numerous legal challenges particularly the criminal charges for his efforts to over tturn the 2020 election. in georgia and mitch, nearly half say if true, it should disqualify him for the presidency. but long before it is clear if there will be a trump/biden rematch, the former president must navigate the republican primary. yes he has a sxhandincommanding iowa, but voting is not for five more week. for now the most competitive race is for second place between nikki haley and ron desantis. jeff zeleny, cnn, washington. >>> harvard corporation one of the xwofrnig governing bodies re university will decide on their president. claudine gay apologized for failing to denounce the

and progressive scholar cornel west, who could turn into wild cards in the general election. >> number threes, george santos expelled. >> i don't care. >> the house voted to expel the republican after a scathing ethics report in a year-long swirl of controversy about santos' litany of lies. santos becomes just the sixth member in history to be expelled from congress and the third since the civil war. >> why would i want to? >> after winning a house district, major pieces of santos' biography fell apart, including his claims around his education, professional experience, and family background. en santos was later indicted on federal charges, including wire fraud and money laundering, but plead ed not guilty and has denied the allegations. >> i'm not really commenting on the ongoing investigation. >> santos reemerged soon after being removed from office on the message site cameo. >> happy, happy, birthday. >> number 2, kevin mccarthy becomes the first house speaker removed from the post. mccarthy's ouster came ten months after he claimed the gavel. following a floor fight that went 15 ro

cornell west, the progressive african american former verdict professor is running as an independent. robert kennedy jr., kind of a wild card. right wing populist in some ways but very aggressive supporter of climate action. so, these are challenges. >> should the biden team address those third party candidates head on or ignore it? >> i think they should discourage them for one thing. there is still the open question about the no labels party and we don't know who that candidate would be. my view generally is third party candidates are more helpful to trump than biden because trump has a high floor and a low ceiling and anything that lowers that threshold that you need to win, i think favors trump. >> and look, another part of the coalition, hispanic voters, you're seeing the real concern in hispanic voters. look at nevada. it is such a key part -- key parts of the state, las vegas and reno, they need to care those and the rest of the state is a republican state. but the problem is the hispanic voters in the state like nevada. arizona, too. that is a problem for joe biden. how does h

., and progressive scholar cornell west who could turn into wild cards in the general election. >> numberman george santos expelled. >> i don't care. >> the u.s. house voted to expel the new york republican after a scathing ethics report in a year-long swirl of controversy about santos' litany of lies. santos becomes just the sixth member in history to be expelled from congress, and the third since the civil war. >> why would i want to thank her? >> after the battleground house district major pieces of santos' biography fell apart including his flameclaims about his educa and family background. santos was indicted on wire fraud and money laundering, but pleaded not guilty and has denied the allegations. >> i'm not really commenting on the ongoing investigation. >> santos reemerged soon after being removed from office on a celebrity video message site cameo. >> happy, happy birthday! >> number two. kevin mccarthy becomes the first house speaker removed from the post. mccarthy's ouster came ten months after he claimed the gavel, following a floor fight that went five days and took 15 rounds

and progressive scholar cornell west who could turn into wild cards in the general election. embattled congressman george santos expelled. >> i don't care. >> reporter: the u.s. house voted to expel the new york republican after a scathing ethics report in a year long swirl of controversy about santos' litany of lies. santos becomes just the sixth member in history to be expelled from congress, and the third since the civil war. >> why would i want to -- >> reporter: after winning a battleground house district, major pieces of santos' biography fell apart, including his claims around his education, professional experience, and family background. santos was later indicted on federal charges, including wire fraud and money laundering. but pleaded not guilty and has denied the allegations. >> i'm not really commenting on the ongoing investigation. >> reporter: santos re-emerged soon after being removed from office, on the celebrity video message site cameo. >> happy, happy birthday! >> reporter: number two, kevin mccarthy becomes the first house speaker removed from the post. mc

west who is running for president. i said at the end of the debate, sad part is, this debate that we had on this show, we would not be able to have at harvard. we reached out to them. they never got back to us. and i think that speaks volumes. what is your reaction to your alma mater? >> look, it is disgraceful how harvard is behaving. i've got to say claudine gay's testimony was the worst testimony i have seen in the 11 years i've been in the senate. you had her testimony, the president of penn, the president of mit. the president of penn has already resigned in disgrace. all three should resign. not a one of them could give a simple clear answer, categorically deny anti-semitism, can't gorally denounce genocide against the jewish people and not one of them could figure out whether calling for mass murder of jews violates their harassment policy. it was ridiculous, and there is a reason. why did claudine -- listen to all of these people defending claudine gay, well, she was surprised. what do you mean she was surprise

cornel west running for president. robert f. kennedy, jr. there is a real likelihood that a lot of disaffected voters, especially young voters, could end up voting for third party candidates. could defect from biden even if they don't support donald trump. a little bit of overconfidence. biden campaign thinks everything is on track. even if a lot of their own voters don't support donald trump they could stay home or could support some of these more progressive third party candidates. >> gillian: also the student loan contingent of voters here. new reports this week that as students are now for the first time trying to repay the loans that the president tried to spare them but was overridden by the supreme court they are having these major bureaucratic headaches. they aren't able to log onto websites or reach human beings on phones. it is causing a lot of angst. who will they end up blaming for that? >> well, the original thinking from the white house is that they would win support from younger voters by forgiving the billions of dollars in a

i think he's going to end up pulling -- >> one of president biden's third party challenges, cornell westwants to zap some votes away from him on the left and it does actually get to the point that joe biden, one of the reasons he's so vulnerable, is that, that coalition that came and delivered for him in 2020, is not with him right now. they're not. and we should note, this is before october 7th, before hamas attacked israel and they responded. before that, he already was in trouble with the progressives. >> he was shaky. but what i will say, is when i do talk to progressives who from the beginning of the biden administration, they're feeling is that he has governed and had an agenda that is aligned with what they were doing, whether it is the child tax credit or gun reform, whether it is minimum wage, whatever it is, he's been pushing an agenda that they are aligned with. but that feels like a d.c. feeling when you go outside of washington, d.c., it is not -- the biden agenda is not resonating with people and one of the things they'll have to do is connect the dots. facts are saying tha

i think he's going to end up pulling -- >> one of president biden's third party challenges, cornell westo zap some votes away from him on the left and it does actually get to the point that joe biden, one of the reasons he's so vulnerable, is that, that coalition that came and delivered for him in 2020, is not with him right now. they're not. and we should note, this is before october 7th, before hamas attacked israel and they responded. before that, he already was in trouble with the progressives. >> he was shaky. but what i will say, is when i do talk to progressives who from the beginning of the biden administration, they're feeling is that he has governed and had an agenda that is aligned with what they were doing, whether it is the child tax credit or gun reform, or whether it is minimum wage, whatever it is, he's been pushing an agenda that they are in align with. but that feels like a d.c. feeling when you go outside of washington, d.c., it is not -- the biden agenda is not resonating with people and one of the things they'll have to do is connect the dots. facts are saying that t

and cornel west at 2%.r view on the gop's impeachment proceedings against president biden, 49% say it's legitimate, 48 president say it's -- 48% says it's bogus. i feel like howie kurtz here reading all these articles, hunter biden knows he's in the crosshairs. he is worried that he might have to flee the country if trump were to be elected president again according to two people who have spoken with him. taylor swift also said she'd flee the country if trump were to come back and win re-election. of course, you'd assume she'd wait for football season to end although they do play nfl games in europe as a you know, griff, and there's even going to be a game in brazil next year. >> we'll have to see what travis kelce has to say about that. lucas tomlinson, thanks. >>> well, a big show still ahead on "big weekend show." the lapd and prosecutors react as the radical district attorney picks an anti-cop activist to be his number two. plus, articlingenton national cemetery 's the next target for the woke mob if ju

west saying he refers to former president trump as a gangster, but says that aside -- i do think thathts and center you have people saying ow supreme court did not the best way to handle this and waiting to track from the supreme court and track from there because he'll ask them to get involved. and january 4th on that colorado decision but i would expect the high court is going to get involved. will: what do you think is the motivation for gavin newsom i can't think it is principle i don't think it is principle he and donald trump do have a relationship and i do wonder if it is something there they have a personal relationship i don't know how to describe it friendly or -- >> friendmi -- >> history and known each other for a while it could be that. will: could be he notices once drastic measures are taken they benefit trump in polling. so i'm just trying to figure out why gavin newsom would zig to the democrats zag? >> i think you're right on the latser there every time something negative happens it benefits him politically i think ultimately they have a really good chance to win thi

i know cornell west is mentioned in the article. can you talk a little bit about that. >> absolutely. there's a potential for chaos with a lot of these third party candidates. the other one is a fundamental one which is they don't know what the battleground is going to look like in a year. we didn't know what covid was and trump hadn't been impeached yet, and that's true but these things can break both ways. as of right now they do have problems where there are a lot of democrats even young voters either look at these third party candidates or not happy with biden that might sit this out. a lot of this has to do with outside factors such as war in the middle east and the perception around the economy which a lot of people around biden believe is going to be the course over the next year. right now it's true that biden's message the economy is improving and people are getting more money in their wallets. that hasn't really broken through and something that nerz not an obvious answer for. >> it is a great fascinating read and i will s

we've got this too, cornell west and gop candidate governor ron desantis said be ready, biden may dropce. watch governor desantis. he also got a cnn action with top democrat strike thattist. >> they're justified and done long ago and clouding his presidency and he clearly would not be a great candidate for the democrats and republicans need be ready for whoever they pull out of the hat and newsom waiting in the wings and quite frankly after that debate, i'm not sure that's the candidate they'd want. he embraced biden and said biden did an a+ job as president. are you kidding me? i think we have to be ready that it could be someone else. >> trying not to -- try not to affect elections as much as predict them, there's still a lot. people have said we're going to ask them to have a biden trump election and that's the way it's going to b. i don't agree with that. >> what i think is happening is people are claiming an unhappiness with the economy and that's really about how they feel about joe biden and his age. liz: no it's not. they don't like double digit inflation and his age is a cover

you have cornell west.andidates. >> we have to see to whom the votes will affect more. peter, what do you think is the number one issue in terms of driving voters to the polls next year? history would suggest it's the economy. when you have serious potential challenges to democracy itself, how might those two issues battle it out? >> i think the history is only something of a guide at it point. we have seen time and time again since donald trump got on the stage seven or eight years ago that the old rules don't always apply anymore. it used to be the economy was the driving force. if that were the case, the numbers that are defining the economy right now would be pretty good for any incumbent president. doesn't seem to be helping joe biden. why is that? is that because the economy actually is doing worse than the numbers seem to indicate? people aren't feeling it in their lives. or is it because people are stuck in the tribal camps? it's about ideology. the idea that the economy drives voters may not be as

. >> harris: liberal third party presidential candidate cornel west posted it's true that trump is a bona fide gangster and neo fascist who must be held accountable. at the same time we don't want the courts deciding the outcome of elections. a stark warning, too, from rfk junior running as an independent. if trump is kept out of office through judicial fiat rather than being defeated in a fair election his supporters will never accept the results. this country will become ungovernable. biden ally democrat senator chris coons is defending the high court ruling. >> i was here on january 6th. we had an impeachment trial for president trump after the events of january 6th. i think it is undeniable in my view that he participated in an insurrection and as such should be disqualified from holding federal office. >> harris: adam schiff hit social media with this. accountability for inciting an insurrection, it's about time. president biden jumped into the pool as well against trump. of course he did. rich edson is at the white house with that part of the coverage. >> good morning, harris.

west than joe biden at all.ve voters wanted to settle for biden in 2020. i don't think -- i think this might be a line too far for his support of israel for a lot of that voting block. >> martha: what are their biggest concerns when you talk to your friends? what are their biggest concerns? what do they want to vote for? >> you know, i feel like a large part of the issue is the same thing that happened with lyndon b. johnson. he went to college campuses and expected to be lauded for his great society. it was shouted at out for his foreign policy in vietnam. the united states is one of the largest funders of the israeli government. i feel like a large portion of progressives in the united states are a little bit disappointed by a blanket support for netanyahu. >> martha: it's interesting. l.b.j. decided not to run in march of election year. we'll see if there's any repeat of that. allie, what about you? would you consider -- did you vote for biden last time and would you consider voting for trump this time? >> i

and when you think about the number of third parties that are rising up now, kennedy or stein or cornell west or maybe no labels, this could change the complexion of where we end in this election, and a reflection of the frustration of the people and the people need to speak louder to the members that represent them so they can get some degree of normalcy down there. >> i think a lot of people may agree with you on that, but as we look forward, i think this isn't even maybe about the difference between conservatives who are leading and moderates, and many are moderates who have been frustrated and feel they can't be hard, but just people who will listen. as i have been hearing the many interviews, for example, that liz cheney is doing, that she will sit down with folks on this network, with a more left leaning slant and have a reasonable conversation with them. understand that they disagree on a lot of the issues, but are willing to talk about it. if folks who are willing to do that, whatever, however far left, right, middle they lean. how do you get anything done? >> well, you can't, if

probably right now cornell west because they fancy that he's sympathetic with their cause but at the end of the day i hope that the biden administration and the democratic party refuses this kind of political blackmail because that's all it is and all they want is the destruction of the state of israel. >> your thoughts? >> yes, they can refuse it all they want to but i worked on the ground in michigan for bernie sanders in 2015, and so what i do know is you cannot win michigan without the muslim vote. bottom line you have to have it, and so it's going to be interesting to see how real they are when they say that they will be sitting down and it's not just the muslim vote. it's a number of demographics who fell off. you talk about young voters, progressive voters and black voteerts, there are a number of different demographics in the democrat base that are angry for various reasons. so, the democratic party is going to have to pay attention to something. listen to somebody and take somebody serious because if not that coalition can bind together, can hurt at the polls. >> times are c

. >> independent presidential caidate cornwell cornell west spoke to voters on campaign stop in omaha, nebraska and he talked about the role of americans making changes in society using their voices and their votes. [applause] >> how lovely to be here. omaha, nebraska! omaha, no brassica, -- omaha, nebraska, oh, what in honor, what a privilege, what a blessing. thank you so very much. i want to get back to saluting my dearly beloved. she is a poet. her book is already a classic in the eyes of angela davis. thank you for your love. thank you for your tremendous support. and thank you for trying to keep me -- because that is a challenge. i have been a black man in america for a long time and if i could get me and my right mind for five days of a week, that shows i serve a mighty god. [applause] something is happening in omaha. the moment we got off the plane, we ran in to one of the visionary credos, a co-campaign manager. we have four. where is the brother? right there. oh yes. we were just in brooklyn. a revolutionary organization endorsed my candidacy. and then we ran into brother an

west. >> see, i'm more worried about the third party voting than i'm worried about trump. >> the campaignitional get out the vote. they have to do persuasion. active persuasion to remind voters about things like the trouble spots you mentioned, economic issues. >> but also -- really quickly, also, i came out with a poll two weeks ago and this is what actually helps him, right? the comparison of trump and talking about african-american voters and what's the greatest threat to the african-american community, inflation, crime and the re-election of donald trump. the re-election of donald trump by the plurality of african-american voters think that's the greatest threat. not inflation, not crime and donald trump. >> that's a motivator? >> we have a new data point in the race this week which is the son of president biden has been indicted yet again, and that republicans are moving to open an impeachment inquiry into president biden despite there not being a link yet. here's what he had to say about that inquiry this week. >> can you explain to the americans -- to americans that this impeachmen

and cornel west, we've got no labels and anything they may do with joe manchin.to predict there's going to be more talk of that. maybe someone from a business world or a stronger republican, particularly if this is all done fast. if it's biden and trump and we know that by february or march, we're going to see more candidates, not fewer. >> turnout will exceed expectations and it's going to help joe biden win decisively next year. >> okay, donna. out on a limb. >> rick took mine. we sat in the green room and i told him i wasn't going to give him mine, and then he took it anyway. i think third parties will be the story. we're going to see the strongest third-party candidacy since ross perot. >> i'm going to maybe dodge this question. in my view, we were going to have a shutdown and i was actually one of the people making it. but i did say that kevin mccarthy would not be speaker long, so i do get credit for that. my prediction, just for fun, is that biden and trump will drop out and barbie will be the next president. >> karl: we'll be right back. bi next president

west. >> that's 2016 all over again. worried about the third-party voting than i'm worried about trump. >> the campaign tells me they're more aware of that, black and brown voters they can do traditional get out the vote. they have to do persuasion. active persuasion to remind voters about things like the trouble spots you mentioned, economic issues. >> but also -- really quickly, also, i came out with a poll two weeks ago and this is what actually helps him, right? the comparison of trump. and in talking about african american voters and what's the greatest threat to the african american community, inflation, crime, and the re-election of donald trump. the re-election of donald trump by the plurality of african american voters think that's the greatest threat. not inflation, not crime and donald trump. >> that's a motivator? >> we have a new data point in the race this week which is the son of president biden has been indicted yet again, and that republicans are moving to open an impeachment inquiry into president biden