in the audience in cottbus that night was benedikt kaiser, another influential figure. he works for an afd mp, but over a decade ago, mr kaiser was pictured at neo—nazi demos. we've approached him for comment. this spy chief claims that extremism within the afd poses a risk to democracy. when i'm speaking about a german oak, a big, strong old tree, it can take a blizzard, it can take a storm. but once you have an enemy that goes for the roots, and that's exactly what's happening right now, going for the roots of our democracy, it's very dangerous because it goes to the vital parts of our democracy. stefan kramer, who'sjewish, has said he'd leave germany if the afd won power. by your saying that as the head of domestic intelligence here, doesn't that feed into their narrative that the state is somehow biased against them, even persecuting them? the party more and more moved to the right and from the right to right—wing extremism, and clearly states in the meantime a folkish, nationalistic, political point of view, turning germany back into something that we've probab