i am now joined by d. u t. taylor, the project manager for the south african creative industries incubator and now runs the incubation program for the beautiful things exhibition. here to you, welcome to ask feedbacks, what is the south african creative industries incubator, and how does it fit in with the women's living heritage monument? so the supervisor doing creative industries and q beta is a creative incubate to that, into base creatives within the creative sick to give them the business skills and knowledge that they need. because um, for the longest time, all industries be known as the song and dance industry of fox and culture and of owing to cease in the country. and what we've serve to do is to lead creatives know that you can be creative. and you can do creative things, but there's also a lot of money to be made. so we provide them with the business savvy and the skills to run a sustainable business. you are responsible for the sale gallery. how does the incubation program link to the development o