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that was echoed by david frum. if he returns to the presidency, his hyannis priority will be to smash the american legal system to hold him to someone, -- some account. david frum's point, that is a big if. in order to tear down the system donald trump will have to return to the white house. there in lies the rub. the united states can have a second trump presidency or obtain the rule of law, not both. author of the book, erasing history. rita, with us as well. advisor at the renewed democracy initiative. rick stengel, msnbc political analyst undersecretary of state in the obama administration. let me start with you, we spent time the last hour discussing the fact that every criminal defendant thinks the system is against them. every defendant that faces a conviction thinks it is unfair. we have processes for this. donald trump and his allies skipped all the way over to the fact that the system is broken. the system is rigged. there would be no case in donald trump's justice department had not gone after michael co
that was echoed by david frum. if he returns to the presidency, his hyannis priority will be to smash the american legal system to hold him to someone, -- some account. david frum's point, that is a big if. in order to tear down the system donald trump will have to return to the white house. there in lies the rub. the united states can have a second trump presidency or obtain the rule of law, not both. author of the book, erasing history. rita, with us as well. advisor at the renewed democracy...
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bush and senior editor at the atlantic, david frum.rote about how earlier, before the debate was settled on, how president biden shouldn't debate donald trump, and i think the -- you told me the crux of it, but it was basically, donald trump is a guy who tried to overturn an election, he's not for democracy, by standing next to him on a debate stage, you're just giving him -- you're instilling a certain sense of official-dom, thorlt, of status you shouldn't be giving to somebody who tried to overturn an election. >> i was worried in the piece where the moment the moderator says, president biden, we'll turn to the overturn of the constitution in a moment, right now we're talking about food prices. it would diminish the issues at stake and create this strange situation. debate is really the wrong term for what this is. this is a joint media appearance. and how often does the president of the united states do a joint media appearance with a convicted felon, are you going to have pat downs for the convicted felon who appears on the stage w
bush and senior editor at the atlantic, david frum.rote about how earlier, before the debate was settled on, how president biden shouldn't debate donald trump, and i think the -- you told me the crux of it, but it was basically, donald trump is a guy who tried to overturn an election, he's not for democracy, by standing next to him on a debate stage, you're just giving him -- you're instilling a certain sense of official-dom, thorlt, of status you shouldn't be giving to somebody who tried to...
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i can't help but shake something that david frum wrote, he thought it was a bad idea for biden to standonald trump because it lends him credibility, and he's a man who tried to overturn a democratic election. tried to inspire an insurrection, and he thinks just the talk to me about the economy and grocery store prices diminishes. how do you have that conversation? we're going to put the insurrection and the time that you tried to stage a coup to the side, and we're going to talk about grocery prices. he finds that to be, in his argument, to be just absurd. >> in the course of the horror of the last few years, i got to know david well enough that i respect and agree with almost everything he says. in the world he was talking about, these two men would not share a stage. mostly because donald trump would be in prison. i understand what he's saying. in that world, joe biden would have 90% of the vote if not more. the world we live in, it's tight as a tick, and i'm hoping the reason that joe biden wants to do this is because, you know, we never see these two together. we talk about them con
i can't help but shake something that david frum wrote, he thought it was a bad idea for biden to standonald trump because it lends him credibility, and he's a man who tried to overturn a democratic election. tried to inspire an insurrection, and he thinks just the talk to me about the economy and grocery store prices diminishes. how do you have that conversation? we're going to put the insurrection and the time that you tried to stage a coup to the side, and we're going to talk about grocery...
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david frum has a piece out of donald trump trashing detroit. we heard what he said about africa and caribbean nations. he might as well say it about cities, too, where there's a predominantly black population chances are very, very good that donald trump is not going to like that city. >> right, joe. then you add that to his conspiracy theory that these are the places that led to the election being stolen. remember, when he was talking about 2020, what was happening? it was what was going on in atlanta, what was happening right in milwaukee, what was happening in detroit, what was happening in philadelphia, so it makes it difficult for him to be in milwaukee making the case, right, that the election was stolen in 2020, right, when in fact he's actually holding his convention in the very city that he thinks participated in the heist as it were, so not only is it racist, joe, it cuts against the grain of the theory that he's been spouting ever since he lost the election. >> happening right now. russian president vladimir putin's meeting with kim
david frum has a piece out of donald trump trashing detroit. we heard what he said about africa and caribbean nations. he might as well say it about cities, too, where there's a predominantly black population chances are very, very good that donald trump is not going to like that city. >> right, joe. then you add that to his conspiracy theory that these are the places that led to the election being stolen. remember, when he was talking about 2020, what was happening? it was what was going...