i think it's absolutely ridiculous . ridiculous. >> david hamilton ijust ridiculous. >> david hamilton wonder >> david hamilton ijust wonder whether history is repeating itself. and this is men do dominating women all over again. but in a different way. >> yeah, it sounds a bit like it, doesn't it, mark? i think i agree with both the ladies actually . i think that what you actually. i think that what you should have is a men's section , should have is a men's section, a women's section, and a transgender section. you certainly shouldn't have people who were born male competing against females. that's definitely not right. but it's interesting. the ceo of this particular company has said that parkrun is not a race. he says , parkrun is not a race. he says, uh, many people are scared of finishing last. that's his reason for, you know, getting rid of all the stats from the past. i mean, i think it's. rid of all the stats from the past. i mean, i think it's . just past. i mean, i think it's. just bollocks, isn't it? really? oh not pulling his punches. >> uh, claire, listen briefly if you c