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one of them is from michael cohen, three of them are from david pecker. david pecker. the tabloid king, american media incorporated is it was a very important witness for the prosecution. and you think this might bode well for the prosecution that they're asking for this who is a critical witness for the prosecution. and look, we've had some description. we don't have cameras in the courtroom, but obviously we would also want to protect the jurors. i'm not some curious about how the jurors are reacting to the instructions. but once we see reading back of david pecker's testimony if i was in the courtroom, i would be watching to see j. get any a-ha moments. i'm sure you've seen that, but let me just give some context to remind people about david pecker david pecker laid out for the jury, catch and kill he said he was the eyes and ears of the trump campaign. he testified that he wanted to help him when he said trump was his mentor, he was not a hostile witness. that is still considers him a friend just two quick things at one point, the prosecution asked him, was your pr
one of them is from michael cohen, three of them are from david pecker. david pecker. the tabloid king, american media incorporated is it was a very important witness for the prosecution. and you think this might bode well for the prosecution that they're asking for this who is a critical witness for the prosecution. and look, we've had some description. we don't have cameras in the courtroom, but obviously we would also want to protect the jurors. i'm not some curious about how the jurors are...
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go to david pecker. and what do they do? they're going to david pecker, and they're asking for his testimony about his trump tower meeting where the prosecution has said that's where the conspiracy was borne. the other thing that he said in his closing was he wanted the jury to think about that call between donald trump and david pecker. no michael cohen in that call, just between the two of them about keeping karen mcdougal's story from being published. and he said they weren't talking about jump starting mcdougal's career. this was about protecting the campaign. if you go back to that call he said it's easy to lose sight of the significance of this call with all the documents in this case. so he made a real point in his closing about how important this call was to showing that this transaction is an unlawful corporate contribution from ami to trump's campaign. look here, and it's the first thing they're asking for. so, again, i think the state has to be happy that they have clearly listened to the closing, and they are at
go to david pecker. and what do they do? they're going to david pecker, and they're asking for his testimony about his trump tower meeting where the prosecution has said that's where the conspiracy was borne. the other thing that he said in his closing was he wanted the jury to think about that call between donald trump and david pecker. no michael cohen in that call, just between the two of them about keeping karen mcdougal's story from being published. and he said they weren't talking about...
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this is from david pecker again. i think it would have been a very embarrassing to himself, and also, key here, to his campaign. question, after your conversation with donald trump, did you have another conversation with michael cohen. answer, yes. on the conversation with donald trump, he said to me clearly that he doesn't buy stories because it always gets out, and he said to me that michael cohen would be calling me. he was going to speak to michael and he would be calling me. question, you used a pronoun there. answer, i'm sorry, that's okay. i'm sorry about that. when you said he in that last answer, were you referring to donald trump. yes, i was. i'm sorry. so did there come a time when michael cohen followed up with you. answer, yes, he called me that day or the next day. question, tell us about that conversation. answer, he called me and he said we should -- you should go ahead and buy this story. and he said, i'm going to have dylan howard call you. it's interesting because david pecker and the prosecution t
this is from david pecker again. i think it would have been a very embarrassing to himself, and also, key here, to his campaign. question, after your conversation with donald trump, did you have another conversation with michael cohen. answer, yes. on the conversation with donald trump, he said to me clearly that he doesn't buy stories because it always gets out, and he said to me that michael cohen would be calling me. he was going to speak to michael and he would be calling me. question, you...
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and what david pecker had testified though, was that it had been reported that trump in the david pecker to trump, michael cohen and trump initially and asked them how he could help with the campaign, what he testified to as they approached him, they set up this meeting and they asked david pecker how he could help their campaign, which obviously we saw the ways they did so not just with karen mcdougal, but also with ted cruz ben carson, and marco rubio implanting these negative false, vicious stories about trump's challengers and the reason that this testimony from david pecker assistance significant because it sets up what prosecutors allege was a conspiracy. >> it conspiracy to suppress negative stories, amplified positive ones, and then falsified business records to cover up what they had done. so this is the beginning of what prosecutors alleged. is this conspiracy. and again, the reason that the documents that were allegedly falsified have been charges, felonies is because they argue that all of this was done to help trump win in 2016 team and david pecker's testimony sets that up.
and what david pecker had testified though, was that it had been reported that trump in the david pecker to trump, michael cohen and trump initially and asked them how he could help with the campaign, what he testified to as they approached him, they set up this meeting and they asked david pecker how he could help their campaign, which obviously we saw the ways they did so not just with karen mcdougal, but also with ted cruz ben carson, and marco rubio implanting these negative false, vicious...
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it was a conversation between david pecker and michael cohen, in which david pecker after speaking with his attorney without disclosing the conversations that he was having with his attorney within this testimony, pecker says to michael cohen, this is what he's recounting in his testimony, that he's going to tear up this agreement over acquiring karen mcdougal's life rights. and michael cohen seems flustered, angry, as he accounted by david pecker. he says well the boss is going to be really angry with you, and then david pecker is who did you take the boss to mean, and he said donald trump. david pecker says who's going to, you know, make me whole? who's going to pay me back? again, i'm paraphrasing here. not reading verbate from his testimony. and michael cohen says the boss will pay you back. david pecker is asked who do you take the boss to mean? and he said i took the boss to mean donald trump. this is all about acquiring the life rights for karen mcdougal at the time, and also david pecker confirming as i mentioned earlier that ami, in fact, was never paid back that $150,000 that
it was a conversation between david pecker and michael cohen, in which david pecker after speaking with his attorney without disclosing the conversations that he was having with his attorney within this testimony, pecker says to michael cohen, this is what he's recounting in his testimony, that he's going to tear up this agreement over acquiring karen mcdougal's life rights. and michael cohen seems flustered, angry, as he accounted by david pecker. he says well the boss is going to be really...
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they want to hear david pecker again. that was a month ago, i need to hear david pecker's testimony again, we all do. i've been struck how professional they have been in handling this. >> if this goes beyond friday, who should be worried, defense or prosecution? >> i think friday doesn't strike me as too long. obviously the longer it goes, the more you're worried about a hung jury. >> yeah. >> you know, there's always that problem, particularly -- in any trial, but particularly a high-profile case where people get wedded to views, they may have had views or tried to sneak on. the problem in high-profile cases, none of us are waking up going, "i can't wait to do jury service." but in high-profile matters, people might actually want to get on. one thing that's unusual about this jury is they haven't lost a juror. >> right. >> i don't think i've ever done a jury trial of any length -- >> people have expressed concerns that say, i don't know if i can do this, but they've stayed on. >> exactly. that's notable. you get a sense
they want to hear david pecker again. that was a month ago, i need to hear david pecker's testimony again, we all do. i've been struck how professional they have been in handling this. >> if this goes beyond friday, who should be worried, defense or prosecution? >> i think friday doesn't strike me as too long. obviously the longer it goes, the more you're worried about a hung jury. >> yeah. >> you know, there's always that problem, particularly -- in any trial, but...
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it's all good, which is what david pecker testified. this collaboration of what we have already heard from from david pecker showing donald trump is right in the center of this. >> and hope hicks, part of what was fascinating to me again as i was reading this through our internal slack channel, it was a reminder of the sheer chaos and crisis and almost tipping point moment of the access hollywood tape and the fact that that article that does come out before the election ultimately ends up spaced out in of that it wouldn't, like if that had come out the day after access hollywood or two days after or three days after, that could have been it. you were there covering it, that could have been it. >> they got lucky with the timing of that. also, remember at that time, it is easy to forget, i have repressed a lot of it, i think most americans have, it was one allegation after another. it was more than two dozen allegations that he had some sort of sexual impropriety and it was just one thing after another. they are running against hillary cl
it's all good, which is what david pecker testified. this collaboration of what we have already heard from from david pecker showing donald trump is right in the center of this. >> and hope hicks, part of what was fascinating to me again as i was reading this through our internal slack channel, it was a reminder of the sheer chaos and crisis and almost tipping point moment of the access hollywood tape and the fact that that article that does come out before the election ultimately ends up...
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david pecker, i think that's safe to say. certainly there's the notes from weisselberg which are valuable, but these words, the mouth of david pecker, it starts from 2015, it gets that narrative going that this is a effort to impact the election and that conspiracy as the prosecution is elijah, though they'd have to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt to promote the election. and it starts there and then you get the words from trump himself. when i think it was referenced to mcdougal, where there's a question about do to buy the story or not. and he says, i don't buy stories and substance. you talked to my guy michael cohen so it really connects all the dots and corroborates in the strongest piece of evidence testimonial is david pecker deputizing some people say officially in this testimony. so michael cohen empowering michael cohen, jim, how do you see that? >> so you don't know what they're looking at? right? i agree that the defense is probably raising an eyebrow of that, but you don't know what they're looking at and pe
david pecker, i think that's safe to say. certainly there's the notes from weisselberg which are valuable, but these words, the mouth of david pecker, it starts from 2015, it gets that narrative going that this is a effort to impact the election and that conspiracy as the prosecution is elijah, though they'd have to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt to promote the election. and it starts there and then you get the words from trump himself. when i think it was referenced to mcdougal, where...
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, you know, david pecker. so that i'm going to do that right away. i've actually come up and i've spoken. trump says, give it to me and get me at michael cohen says, and i've spoken to allen weisselberg. that's the cfo of the trump organization, who's doing time at rikers right now, i spoken allen weisselberg about how to set the whole whole thing up with donald j. trump. so what do we got to pay for this one 50, that's $150,000. this is for karen mcdougal. she does ultimately get that money. michael cohen funding continued thought, how to set up the whole thing with funding? yes. and it's all this trump? yes. i was thinking about that cohen all the stuff because here you never know where that company, you never know what he's donald trump maybe gets. he gets by hit by a truck talking about if anything bad happens to david pecker, how do we preserve this relationship and this information? michael cohen? correct. >> so i'm all over that and i spoke to allen weisselberg about it when it comes time for the financ
, you know, david pecker. so that i'm going to do that right away. i've actually come up and i've spoken. trump says, give it to me and get me at michael cohen says, and i've spoken to allen weisselberg. that's the cfo of the trump organization, who's doing time at rikers right now, i spoken allen weisselberg about how to set the whole whole thing up with donald j. trump. so what do we got to pay for this one 50, that's $150,000. this is for karen mcdougal. she does ultimately get that money....
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we starting with david pecker, so they're starting with david pecker it also could be that they're looking for ways to corroborate michael cohen's testimony. right. so one of the instructions was you can't rely on his testimony only look at what evidence is out there to corroborate it. and there's there's quite a bit of overlap between what he was talking about and david pecker's testimony. so they might be looking for ways to corroborate it which could also be partly why they want to hear the instructions, but it doesn't surprise me in the least that they do want to hear all of the instructions because it was a lot and there's no way anybody could process all of that in one shot. >> so karen, you have worked in the da's office, manhattan da's office. you also have been on a jury i think it's stupid that they didn't just give the jury the instructions that he gave them. so now he has to come and explain them all or some or whatever is there a reason why that's this is the way they do it in new york. >> or judge merchan does it it's the way it's done in new york and there are thousands of j
we starting with david pecker, so they're starting with david pecker it also could be that they're looking for ways to corroborate michael cohen's testimony. right. so one of the instructions was you can't rely on his testimony only look at what evidence is out there to corroborate it. and there's there's quite a bit of overlap between what he was talking about and david pecker's testimony. so they might be looking for ways to corroborate it which could also be partly why they want to hear the...
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he lied to her, and then she called david pecker at ami. and david pecker went with the story. hey, this is a legitimate contract that we had with karen mcdougal to do magazine covers, and what was significant about that is donald trump then followed up with hope hicks and said what did david pecker tell you, right? in other words, donald trump wanted to know is david pecker sticking to their cover story, this had nothing to do with hush money. i thought that was a really important point for the prosecution to bring out. it's also showing that hope hicks is pretty credible here. she really didn't know anything about these hush money payments. she's trying to find out information. they're not telling her what's going on. that was made all the more credible by when she testified, she said i was hired four years out of college. i was hired to be the campaign press secretary sort of as a joke. i had no experience, but then i was around the campaign a lot, and so i got that title, right? she's there every day. she's talking to donald trump, but she really wasn't part of the inner ci
he lied to her, and then she called david pecker at ami. and david pecker went with the story. hey, this is a legitimate contract that we had with karen mcdougal to do magazine covers, and what was significant about that is donald trump then followed up with hope hicks and said what did david pecker tell you, right? in other words, donald trump wanted to know is david pecker sticking to their cover story, this had nothing to do with hush money. i thought that was a really important point for...
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remember they had a leak off from trial and david pecker testified. some weeks ago. so it's not fresh in their minds. so it's impossible to know exactly why but i think the prosecution is probably feeling better about that note and that question, then the defense right now sources say that trump trump's allies believe the longer the jury deliberates, the better it is for trump. is there any truth to that based on your years of experience? >> now, i would say not length of time does not tell you anything about what the verdict will be. the longest jury verdict that i had to await when i was a united states attorney was against a very significant insider trading defendant back when in the first year or two that i was the us attorney and it was most significant insider trading case brought in new generation and the jury deliberated for 11 days and found the defendant guilty on every single count i think in cases of high scrutiny and great public attention like that case was and overshadowed by about 5 million times this one jurors take their role seriously. they're goin
remember they had a leak off from trial and david pecker testified. some weeks ago. so it's not fresh in their minds. so it's impossible to know exactly why but i think the prosecution is probably feeling better about that note and that question, then the defense right now sources say that trump trump's allies believe the longer the jury deliberates, the better it is for trump. is there any truth to that based on your years of experience? >> now, i would say not length of time does not...
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this is again, david pecker questions. so before the august 2015 meeting, the meeting at trump tower, you made a decision that it made sense for ami to run articles about bill and hillary clinton right? again before the meeting yes. said pecker. those articles were negative, right? yes. said pecker. so as easy for you to say during the august 2015 meeting that you would continue to do that, right? yes. said pecker. >> that was no issue for you? no. said pecker. >> we talked yesterday about things that were mutually beneficial, that that was entirely beneficial to ami that was entirely beneficial to ami steinglass that the prosecutor objects. >> the court sustains it running those stories were beneficial to ami, correct pecker running the stories are beneficial to am i correct? >> and doing what was good for ami was standard operating procedure says yes. and then there's another part of this this is the cross-examination by the defense of david pecker. >> i want to stick with the august 2015 meeting. okay. again, this is th
this is again, david pecker questions. so before the august 2015 meeting, the meeting at trump tower, you made a decision that it made sense for ami to run articles about bill and hillary clinton right? again before the meeting yes. said pecker. those articles were negative, right? yes. said pecker. so as easy for you to say during the august 2015 meeting that you would continue to do that, right? yes. said pecker. >> that was no issue for you? no. said pecker. >> we talked...
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that's the 2050 meter with david pecker, were david pecker. were david pecker testified he was being asked, what can you do for the campaign deed, mr. becker told you was really good business to work with trump. blanche says, well, am i executives were certainly not as confident because one point they did have to consult with their attorneys about whether they were running a foul of campaign finance laws by helping to suppress stories that could have an impact on the election so he's saying it's good business to work with someone like this. >> this is done all the time, but of course, when it comes to the rules and regulations of campaigns he citing something that they did back in in 1998, a story that they helped suppress for trump. a lot of things have changed. and when you're running for the white house, it's completely different. >> it's bringing he also brought up arnold schwarzenegger now as another candidate that they had allegedly helped indeed, mr. pecker told you was really good for business working with trump? >> well, the arnold sc
that's the 2050 meter with david pecker, were david pecker. were david pecker testified he was being asked, what can you do for the campaign deed, mr. becker told you was really good business to work with trump. blanche says, well, am i executives were certainly not as confident because one point they did have to consult with their attorneys about whether they were running a foul of campaign finance laws by helping to suppress stories that could have an impact on the election so he's saying...
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a cross—examination to david pecker, so all of that showing becausejurors to david pecker, so all of that showing because jurors are to david pecker, so all of that showing becausejurors are not to david pecker, so all of that showing because jurors are not able to have hard copiesjust how time—consuming it is when they have a question and need to see evidence again what a process that is. fix, site again what a process that is. a site to imagine — again what a process that is. a site to imagine the _ again what a process that is. a site to imagine the court _ again what a process that is. a site to imagine the court reporters - to imagine the court reporters re—enacting of that testimony, you mentioned david pecker, remind us why his testimony could be so crucial. . ., , crucial. prosecutors, in their closin: crucial. prosecutors, in their closing arguments, - crucial. prosecutors, in their closing arguments, said - crucial. prosecutors, in theirj closing arguments, said that crucial. prosecutors, in their - closing arguments, said that david pecker�*s testimony was devasta
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another was how to find david pecker and michael cohen credible. david pecker obviously signing this non-prosecution agreement with the s.e.c. you can take that to assess his credibility, not to assess, for instance, whether or not donald trump is guilty or not guilty with michael cohen, of course, pleading guilty. lying under oath, taking that to assess his credibility, not whether donald trump is guilty or not guilty. a lot happening this morning, still inside deliberations, chris. at any moment now, or in a few days from now, we really don't know, can't even make an educated guess at this point as to when we could get a verdict. >> the educated guess is there's no way to know. yasmin vossoughian, thank you very much. >>> the former president absolutely does have a new addition to his courthouse waiting room, and it's a tv set. nbc's dasha burns is following that. okay. so what's that about? >> reporter: well, look, chris, the former president's time is not his own right now. he's spending the day either in the holding room or in the courtroom or
another was how to find david pecker and michael cohen credible. david pecker obviously signing this non-prosecution agreement with the s.e.c. you can take that to assess his credibility, not to assess, for instance, whether or not donald trump is guilty or not guilty with michael cohen, of course, pleading guilty. lying under oath, taking that to assess his credibility, not whether donald trump is guilty or not guilty. a lot happening this morning, still inside deliberations, chris. at any...
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on david pecker's testimony it's unclear. it could be that they just want to confirm their understanding and recollection of david pecker's testimony could be that some jurors said this is all speculation on my part to make that clear, that even in the early stages of deliberation, sound, juror said, well, we can't trust michael cohen and maybe another the juror said, well, it doesn't just rest on michael cohen's shoulders as the prosecutor said, there's very devastating and important testimony from david pecker. let's hear that again. let's get some of that back. in our, in our memories. remember they had a leak off from trial and david pecker testified some weeks ago. so it's not fresh in their minds, so it's impossible to know exactly why but i think the prosecution is probably feeling better about that note and that question, then the defense right now sources say that trump trump's allies believe the longer the jury deliberates, the better it is for trump. is there any truth to that based on your years of experience now,
on david pecker's testimony it's unclear. it could be that they just want to confirm their understanding and recollection of david pecker's testimony could be that some jurors said this is all speculation on my part to make that clear, that even in the early stages of deliberation, sound, juror said, well, we can't trust michael cohen and maybe another the juror said, well, it doesn't just rest on michael cohen's shoulders as the prosecutor said, there's very devastating and important testimony...
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read back the testimony of david pecker. they're not supposed to use them, okay, this is what the law and falsifying business records means and try to convince the other jurors. it's supposed to be, i don't remember what the law means, let's have the judge read it back. everyone is different. i'm a note taker. i have to write down things, otherwise i don't remember them, and otherwise don't write them down. it's really, i think, helpful for some people, like me, who need to remember things that are important but hopefully the juror will remember, okay, this is just my recollection. let me actually hear what that witness testified to by having the court reporter read it back. >> and i wonder if it can be helpful in this sense and some jurors i talked to, they said, well, in fact most of the jurors i have talked to have said, well, we started with an initial, you know, guilty, not guilty, not sure. and in asking questions, why are you so sure they're guilty, not guilty or unsure, somebody will say, well, i have it here that da
read back the testimony of david pecker. they're not supposed to use them, okay, this is what the law and falsifying business records means and try to convince the other jurors. it's supposed to be, i don't remember what the law means, let's have the judge read it back. everyone is different. i'm a note taker. i have to write down things, otherwise i don't remember them, and otherwise don't write them down. it's really, i think, helpful for some people, like me, who need to remember things that...
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and unlike michael cohen, david pecker has far less bias _ michael cohen, david pecker has far less bias against donald trump. he testified _ less bias against donald trump. he testified that he still considers donald — testified that he still considers donald trump a friend. there is far less baggage associated with david pecken _ less baggage associated with david pecker. he may not be a perfect witness, — pecker. he may not be a perfect witness, but again he has far less baggage — witness, but again he has far less baggage than michael cohen, he does not have _ baggage than michael cohen, he does not have prior convictions, he has not have prior convictions, he has not made — not have prior convictions, he has not made inconsistent statements in the past _ not made inconsistent statements in the past and again he still considers donald trump a friend. and this has considers donald trump a friend. this has been considers donald trump a friend. fific this has been quite the considers donald trump a friend. fific this has been quite the trial. 22 witnesses over six weeks, we al
and unlike michael cohen, david pecker has far less bias _ michael cohen, david pecker has far less bias against donald trump. he testified _ less bias against donald trump. he testified that he still considers donald — testified that he still considers donald trump a friend. there is far less baggage associated with david pecken _ less baggage associated with david pecker. he may not be a perfect witness, — pecker. he may not be a perfect witness, but again he has far less baggage —...
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they said davider pecker's testimony is so crucially important. remember he was the first witness jurors heard from weeks andro weeks ago. go look at that, and there are two through lines. theo other thing they're askin for that's really important is that david pecker's testimony puts donald trumpec right at th center of this conspiracy donald trump is there at a principal, there on his phone call with david pecker. there are instances where donald trump is at the center of this conspiracy, and that's why the jurors office is asking the jury to focus on this. they've got to be happy the jurors are focus ogen what they said to focus on. it does mean the jurors are paying attention to what the d.a.'s office laid out and suggesting how they look at evidence. >> why don't they get a copy of the transcript to take back to the deliberation room? >> the transcript could have errors in it. although it sounds crazy, the transcript is not a final transcript until it's reviewed by the parties. and to the extent there are errors, they'll not allow it back to
they said davider pecker's testimony is so crucially important. remember he was the first witness jurors heard from weeks andro weeks ago. go look at that, and there are two through lines. theo other thing they're askin for that's really important is that david pecker's testimony puts donald trumpec right at th center of this conspiracy donald trump is there at a principal, there on his phone call with david pecker. there are instances where donald trump is at the center of this conspiracy, and...
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have the police thought that, or this a david pecker thought? this is a david pecker thought. i feel that we had a bioterrorism attack here. management decided that we need to be more "patriotic." that was the word was used. and to support the war effort that was coming, you know, we needed to show that we were strong. people love to have the patriotic stories on the front, and i think that they had found another nerve that they were hitting on the readership by doing these post-9/11 stories. coz: we must have put out probably five special commemorative editions that were slicker and glossier, 'cause remember, at our bones, we're patriotic. our readers believed in the u.s. government, just like they believed in america. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ from a bodybuilding career, i have gotten a large female following. you know, you have situations where women absolutely, like, take their clothes off in front of you. like, this woman just took off her clothes and stood there naked, and she says, "take me." -oh. -yeah, baby. i mean, sometimes it takes a little bit of respect away th
have the police thought that, or this a david pecker thought? this is a david pecker thought. i feel that we had a bioterrorism attack here. management decided that we need to be more "patriotic." that was the word was used. and to support the war effort that was coming, you know, we needed to show that we were strong. people love to have the patriotic stories on the front, and i think that they had found another nerve that they were hitting on the readership by doing these post-9/11...
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they want to hear testimony read back from the former publisher of "the national enquirer" david pecker and michael cohen as well, also at that meeting and his testimony, too. later about an hour the bell ringing again and the jury asking for the judge's instructions read after they were first delivered by the judge. dan abrams is here tonight and aaron katersky at the courthouse leading us off. >> reporter: tonight, the fate of donald trump, the first former president ever to face criminal charges, now in the hands of the jury. less than four hours into deliberations, a bell rang in court, signaling a note from the jurors. they wanted four pieces of question testimony read back to them including testimony from david pecker, who buried stories for trump and one from trump's former fixer michael cohen about a trump tower meeting with trump in august 2015, where prosecutors said the three men hatched a conspiracy to corrupt the 2016 election. an hour later, jurors sending a second note asking judge juan merchan to re-read instructions. you are asked to make another very important decision
they want to hear testimony read back from the former publisher of "the national enquirer" david pecker and michael cohen as well, also at that meeting and his testimony, too. later about an hour the bell ringing again and the jury asking for the judge's instructions read after they were first delivered by the judge. dan abrams is here tonight and aaron katersky at the courthouse leading us off. >> reporter: tonight, the fate of donald trump, the first former president ever to...
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so, david pecker, there's no surprise, now, why they opened with david pecker as their first witness. they started with a bang, and the effects of that bang are still being felt now in closing arguments. but, i really believe, we're getting to the area that the prosecution really needs to shore up. i believe they have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that cohen paid stormy daniels. i don't think anyone disagrees with that. i think they've proven beyond a reasonable doubt that cohen was reimbursed. there's no dispute there. i think where you get into the difficulty are concepts like the intent to defraud, and whether that intent to defraud included whatever included means, and an intent to promote or to conceal some other crime. i think now we're getting into the areas that the prosecution knows, they need to shore up, if, for no other reason then this is a novel application of the law. anyone who says they have experience with this particular application of the law is making it up. >> it was never prosecuted before, this is the -- they call it a case of first impressions. >> just remi
so, david pecker, there's no surprise, now, why they opened with david pecker as their first witness. they started with a bang, and the effects of that bang are still being felt now in closing arguments. but, i really believe, we're getting to the area that the prosecution really needs to shore up. i believe they have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that cohen paid stormy daniels. i don't think anyone disagrees with that. i think they've proven beyond a reasonable doubt that cohen was...
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she called michael cohen, called david pecker. i asked pecker what was going on and why i was receiving this email. obviously i didn't know anything about it, and he explained that she, karen mcdougal was paid for magazine covers and columns, and quote, it was all very legitimate, and that is what the contract was for. i had never discussed karen mcdougal with him before. i spoke to michael cohen before i spoke to pecker. i don't really remember what cohen said. hicks said there was a reason i called david next. the prosecutor says did you begin drafting a response to the "wall street journal." she said, yes, i sent a draft to michael cohen while trump was on stage, and then shared with trump when he was done with the rally. so this is what an inside player was, she knew right away to call michael cohen, it call david pecker to draft a response while the candidate for president was still speaking at that rally in ohio, this is 2016, and she sent the draft to michael cohen while trump was on stage, so michael cohen, his personal at
she called michael cohen, called david pecker. i asked pecker what was going on and why i was receiving this email. obviously i didn't know anything about it, and he explained that she, karen mcdougal was paid for magazine covers and columns, and quote, it was all very legitimate, and that is what the contract was for. i had never discussed karen mcdougal with him before. i spoke to michael cohen before i spoke to pecker. i don't really remember what cohen said. hicks said there was a reason i...
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pecker and i've always thought david pecker was such a strong witness to begin on. he came in there, he had no credibility issues, he still thought donald trump was a mentor and someone he still liked and looked favorably and he came in and presented this whole narrative arc that we expect michael cohen to do later in the trial, but he did that as the first witness and really went unchallenged. for them to be going to his testimony, that sounds like they're doing exactly what the prosecution wants, which is corroboration. that they have michael cohen's story and they're saying we want to go back in, look through other testimony and check off where we have corroboration and david pecker is a strong witness for that point. >> i feel like -- >> the bobble head, i'm agreeing. you just said it perfectly. i don't need to say it. i'm here, so i will, but absolutely it is about the corroboration and to my point before, if it was about michael cohen, they would have wanted more about michael cohen and what they want about michael cohen in terms of readback is directly relate
pecker and i've always thought david pecker was such a strong witness to begin on. he came in there, he had no credibility issues, he still thought donald trump was a mentor and someone he still liked and looked favorably and he came in and presented this whole narrative arc that we expect michael cohen to do later in the trial, but he did that as the first witness and really went unchallenged. for them to be going to his testimony, that sounds like they're doing exactly what the prosecution...
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pecker, and david pecker had to come out of a meeting. it wasn't pecker calling trump, cohen calling david pecker, it was donald trump, the leader, you could say of the conspiracy. >> daniel? >> i think if i'm the prosecution, i'm very pleased with that read back because what you want to do in a summation and josh steinglass just did a masterful glass of this, you want to give the jury a road map to follow when they get into that jury room. for all the reasons we're talking about with jury instructions and complicated facts. here's what they have done, just as catherine said, they have framed the case with the first and the last witness about the most important corroboration that we have of michael cohen. and the fact that they use similar language, not exactly the same language, but similar, is critical. right? they didn't coordinate their system. they're talking about the same meeting, using the same words to describe the same set of facts why in the prosecution's view, because that's exactly what happened, and that's why you can believ
pecker, and david pecker had to come out of a meeting. it wasn't pecker calling trump, cohen calling david pecker, it was donald trump, the leader, you could say of the conspiracy. >> daniel? >> i think if i'm the prosecution, i'm very pleased with that read back because what you want to do in a summation and josh steinglass just did a masterful glass of this, you want to give the jury a road map to follow when they get into that jury room. for all the reasons we're talking about...
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no one knew what to expect out of david pecker. we learned he had been cooperating with prosecutors and brought trump straight into the essential conspiracy, the election fraud conspiracy, which is necessary to turn the misdemeanor that is charged here into a felony. important testimony. he stood up well on testimony and cross-examination. they did not seem to come after him with a lot. they tried to pick away at his credibility, question the key evidence, but he was thoroughly rehabilitated on redirect examination. the prosecution has to be feeling good. >> jason, i don't want to be unkind to the defendant and he is legally presumed innocent, but the family is not there. the jury can notice that. these are his friends and allies. some of them have gone so far they are like michael cohen, who is so angry at trump that it might affect his credibility. some like i emphasized said friendly. the guy is a liar, but we are friendly. i mean he may have committed crimes, that's what i thought we did, but we are friendly and he's got a whol
no one knew what to expect out of david pecker. we learned he had been cooperating with prosecutors and brought trump straight into the essential conspiracy, the election fraud conspiracy, which is necessary to turn the misdemeanor that is charged here into a felony. important testimony. he stood up well on testimony and cross-examination. they did not seem to come after him with a lot. they tried to pick away at his credibility, question the key evidence, but he was thoroughly rehabilitated on...
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it was about david pecker. he's asked a lot of questions but chose to answer this question about david pecker. david is a nice guy, david is really nice. and the intonation that the prosecution is making is this is basically skirting up to the edge of tampering and influence. he's basically like david has been really nice to me, it would be unfortunate if he stopped being nice. >> let's play stormy daniels. this is stormy daniels on jimmy kimmel after donald trump's state of the union, january 30th, 2018. take a look. >> did you sign this letter that was released today? >> i don't know. did i? >> that you can say, right? >> that doesn't look like my signature, does it? >> you're saying perhaps this letter was written and released without your approval. >> hmm. >> do you know where it came from? do you have any idea? >> i do not know. >> so -- it came from the internet. >> you did not have anything to do with this. >> i also work for the fbi and i'm a man, according to the internet. >> here's a picture of the le
it was about david pecker. he's asked a lot of questions but chose to answer this question about david pecker. david is a nice guy, david is really nice. and the intonation that the prosecution is making is this is basically skirting up to the edge of tampering and influence. he's basically like david has been really nice to me, it would be unfortunate if he stopped being nice. >> let's play stormy daniels. this is stormy daniels on jimmy kimmel after donald trump's state of the union,...
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but it's hard when you step back and you think, david pecker was very powerful and he was david pecker talking to donald trum about the conspiracy part. in the coming week, we're going to get to the falsification of the business records. right now, we're in that first phase. >> they are creating the motive. i think as someone who covered every one of these news cycles here on the coverage side, to take a jury back in time to make clear that while stormy daniels had a relationship with trump in 2007, the release of the "access hollywood" tape changed the ecosystem. how effective do you think they have been with all the witnesses they put forth in showing how come pressed the time was for trump? >> i think that came out loud and clear. stormy daniels went from a story that she couldn't sell to suddenly this is the window of opportunity. i do think it's important to focus on a key thing that has come up that the defense is going to argue. i'm not say there aren't substantial answers to it, but today the jury saw the agreement that is between donald trump and even the side letter that made
but it's hard when you step back and you think, david pecker was very powerful and he was david pecker talking to donald trum about the conspiracy part. in the coming week, we're going to get to the falsification of the business records. right now, we're in that first phase. >> they are creating the motive. i think as someone who covered every one of these news cycles here on the coverage side, to take a jury back in time to make clear that while stormy daniels had a relationship with...
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pecker and trump's former fixer michael cohen. they specifically want to hear what both men said about a trump tower meeting where pecker says they came to an agreement with "trump himself" about a scheme to kill negative stories about him, among other pieces of testimony. they also, the jury, wants to rehear those instructions from the judge. those are the only clues that we have about what is happening inside the deliberation room as the jury weighs a historic decision, whether or not to convict the former president. cbs's robert costa was inside the courthouse, and he will start us off tonight. >> reporter: donald trump's fate is now in the hands of 12 new yorkers. >> mother teresa could not beat these charges. >> reporter: the decision is up to the jury of seven men and five women. among them, to lawyers, a teacher, and a banker, sequestered in a jury room just feet from the courtroom. no cell phones allowed, but they have access to a laptop containing all the evidence. what's it like being inside the jury room? >> it's a pret
pecker and trump's former fixer michael cohen. they specifically want to hear what both men said about a trump tower meeting where pecker says they came to an agreement with "trump himself" about a scheme to kill negative stories about him, among other pieces of testimony. they also, the jury, wants to rehear those instructions from the judge. those are the only clues that we have about what is happening inside the deliberation room as the jury weighs a historic decision, whether or...
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this communication with david pecker. at some point isn't it going to be cohen's word against trump's? >> yes, but that's why you have the documents. that's why the documents become so important because ultimately even if it is cohen's word against trump, you're not going to hear from donald trump, but that doesn't matter because at the end of the day what you're going to do is say, yes, you have an account of this story that you've heard from michael cohen and you have an account of this story that the defense would like you to believe, but the thing that tips the scale if i'm the prosecutor in this case that i'm going to argue is that you have documents that support everything that michael cohen is saying and the explanation that the defense is offering for the documents i.e., well, this was payment for legal services rendered or repayment, it does not add up with common sense. and so i think that, yes, it is oftentimes going to be the word of one witness versus the legal theory of another if you don't hear from the def
this communication with david pecker. at some point isn't it going to be cohen's word against trump's? >> yes, but that's why you have the documents. that's why the documents become so important because ultimately even if it is cohen's word against trump, you're not going to hear from donald trump, but that doesn't matter because at the end of the day what you're going to do is say, yes, you have an account of this story that you've heard from michael cohen and you have an account of this...
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so i could show it to david pecker. that way he could hear the conversation that he was going to be paying him back and i also wanted him to remain loyal to donald trump. >> this is key. this is critical. this shows that paper trail, and it also shows if you think about it, the pattern that cohen actually experienced when he wasn't getting paid back or he didn't receive the compensation necessary to pay stormy daniels. so i think what the prosecution is kind of doing is laying out this mirror to show this pattern because the pattern also links back to trump as well. is there an issue, though, if cohen's right now saying this was the one conversation i recorded. i think as a juror -- >> was mr. trump aware, no, ma'am. mr. trump wasn't aware. i'm left to question, why was this the only one he recorded? like how does the prosecution explain that, charles, and if you're the defense you've worn both hats, are you going to pounce on that? >> well, don't assume this is the only one he recorded. >> he just said it was. >> yeah,
so i could show it to david pecker. that way he could hear the conversation that he was going to be paying him back and i also wanted him to remain loyal to donald trump. >> this is key. this is critical. this shows that paper trail, and it also shows if you think about it, the pattern that cohen actually experienced when he wasn't getting paid back or he didn't receive the compensation necessary to pay stormy daniels. so i think what the prosecution is kind of doing is laying out this...
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they'll have to also believe david pecker is lying. they'll have to also believe keith davidson is lying. they'll have to believe that everyone that corroborates a piece of this is in on it. >> they'll have to believe that allen weisselberg was ready to defy donald trump and make all these -- they'll have to believe because of how trump has played it that stormy daniels is lying. i mean, it's now trump or everyone else. they've played a terrible hand that way. one very interesting point, by the way, about pecker and the coordination with cohen. there's something called a rule against witnesses. cohen's coordination is not because he's studied. he hasn't been able to know what the other witnesses have said. and there was an important point where you knew it today. she asked him, did you go to pecker to complain about your bonus, et cetera? which pecker testified he had. cohen said, i don't remember. so you know, it really came through that that's an independent recollection that he has. >> with hope hicks as well. >> yeah. >> in fact, h
they'll have to also believe david pecker is lying. they'll have to also believe keith davidson is lying. they'll have to believe that everyone that corroborates a piece of this is in on it. >> they'll have to believe that allen weisselberg was ready to defy donald trump and make all these -- they'll have to believe because of how trump has played it that stormy daniels is lying. i mean, it's now trump or everyone else. they've played a terrible hand that way. one very interesting point,...
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this is the jurors' first note, was about david pecker. so just focus on -- i know this is a shock -- the facts, and there is a written record. this is not one where it's debatable. there's a transcript. and so you can put a label on it that says it's rigged, but we all know there is a transcript that disproves that. >> it is going to be a test of not just the durability of his base. i feel like that's the story of the last two cycles, but whether he can grow that base. he can't win with just the base. but can he convince anyone outside of his base that all these people that i loved, that still love him, were part of a rigged trial? >> november 5th is going to be the real verdict day, the american public is going to have the chance to decide. i go back to three weeks after donald trump was inaugurated in 2017 and i went out and began asking voters after michael flynn, who was his national security adviser resigned because he had lied about his communications with the russian ambassador before the inauguration day. i was first having conver
this is the jurors' first note, was about david pecker. so just focus on -- i know this is a shock -- the facts, and there is a written record. this is not one where it's debatable. there's a transcript. and so you can put a label on it that says it's rigged, but we all know there is a transcript that disproves that. >> it is going to be a test of not just the durability of his base. i feel like that's the story of the last two cycles, but whether he can grow that base. he can't win with...
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david pecker, keith davidson, and eventually michael cohen and maybe stormy daniels. by calling a witness like hope hicks, you tie all that together so that even if you take a witness like david pecker or michael cohen on cross-examination and say, liar, liar, your pants are on fire, it becomes increasingly harder to cast doubt on the credibility or believability of their statements if they line up with another credible witness, or even worse for the defense, a very credible document. of course, that's probably why you see the defense fighting so hard on the authentication of documents, social media posts, things like that. when the case is in, when the prosecution's case is in, ideally, they will have lined up all of this testimony, credible testimony to shore up the holes in the possibly incredible testimony of some witnesses with shakier backgrounds. that's exactly what a hope hicks does. it's why i have said, she may quietly and loudly be one of the most important witnesses. i say loudly, because people know her name. she's a character in trump world. quietly, she
david pecker, keith davidson, and eventually michael cohen and maybe stormy daniels. by calling a witness like hope hicks, you tie all that together so that even if you take a witness like david pecker or michael cohen on cross-examination and say, liar, liar, your pants are on fire, it becomes increasingly harder to cast doubt on the credibility or believability of their statements if they line up with another credible witness, or even worse for the defense, a very credible document. of...
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then on the other end, saying david pecker is nice. i think the judge is going to give trump a pass on that one. it's just too nothing. you can imagine context in which let's say john gotti's on trial and he says, hey, those witnesses better be nice. that would be a different statement than just saying david pecker is nice. i think trump prevails on that one. the mid-range, as a campaigner being able to respond to statements by people like michael cohen, i think it's bolstered by the fact that michael cohen won't stop talking. i have no doubt the people, the prosecution is equally as frustrated with michael cohen out there making statements and bolstering trump's argument that he should be able to respond to them. so in other words, this argument might have less of a chance if michael cohen wasn't so active out there making statements and bolstering the argument that trump should be able to respond to them as someone campaigning for the highest political office in the land. >> you know, jim, joe biden's name was invoked for the first t
then on the other end, saying david pecker is nice. i think the judge is going to give trump a pass on that one. it's just too nothing. you can imagine context in which let's say john gotti's on trial and he says, hey, those witnesses better be nice. that would be a different statement than just saying david pecker is nice. i think trump prevails on that one. the mid-range, as a campaigner being able to respond to statements by people like michael cohen, i think it's bolstered by the fact that...
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and so was david pecker's. and two people who are still -- >> and who they haven't attacked. >> he's still my friend. >> my mentor. >> which makes it so effective that they're going back to where we started with david pecker. >> i want to do two things. i want to pull back the curtain. we have some notes coming into us about what is happening as this happen right now. what we understand to be taking place is probably about 40 more minutes of the prosecution making its closing argument. at 5:00 the judge has told the jury it is going to hit pause and check in with them and see what they want to do. do they want to keep going or power through or take a break and come back in the morning. so we don't know yet. that decision will be made about 40 minutes from right now. we're also going to sneak in a break and do some more reading and checking on what is happening inside. but there is still so much more to come from inside of the courtroom as the state's closing arguments continue, they're ongoing. we'll bring you
and so was david pecker's. and two people who are still -- >> and who they haven't attacked. >> he's still my friend. >> my mentor. >> which makes it so effective that they're going back to where we started with david pecker. >> i want to do two things. i want to pull back the curtain. we have some notes coming into us about what is happening as this happen right now. what we understand to be taking place is probably about 40 more minutes of the prosecution making...
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and david pecker, the ceo of the company i used to work for, testified he's not a bank. he had done two of these payoffs, he had taken the doorman off the market for 30 k and then down the payment to karen mcdougal so he says to dylan howard, let them take care of it as in michael cohen and the campaign.: how to get involved with it. there is this negotiation going on with keith davidson and michael cohen to take a stormy daniels of the market, which they end up doing. >> would you say there was a panic inside the national enquirer," about this ? >> the panic was in the campaign. the panic was going on with the campaign and the corporation was asked of dylan howard to help and david pecker to help take this off the market. >> hope hicks broke out in tears. that was really pretty memorable. you were there, hugo. talk about the reaction, the moment in the courtroom when she did that. what did people think, did they think crocodile tears, did they feel sorry for her? did they feel it's just an especially stress or that she feels badly, what was the interpretation of that? >
and david pecker, the ceo of the company i used to work for, testified he's not a bank. he had done two of these payoffs, he had taken the doorman off the market for 30 k and then down the payment to karen mcdougal so he says to dylan howard, let them take care of it as in michael cohen and the campaign.: how to get involved with it. there is this negotiation going on with keith davidson and michael cohen to take a stormy daniels of the market, which they end up doing. >> would you say...
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pecker, so they've also asked for david pecker's testimony on this. and among the portions that they will here tomorrow, this is on cross-examination where aiml bove asked pecker, do you remember that you confirm that during the august 2015 meeting that there was no discussion of catch and kill, correct? pecker says yes, question and during the august 2015 meeting, there was no discussion of a financial component to any agreement with president trump and michael cohen, correct? says there was a discussion about that. i was going to be the eyes and ears of the campaign. and there was a discussion that i would be notifying michael cohen of any women that were in the process of going that were in the process are going to be selling stories. i would notify cohen that they would be available and they would either have to buy them or take them off the market, or kill them in some manner. now, another part of testimony, the asphalt was about david pecker's phone call with donald trump in on that called david pecker recounts how he is talking to trump about k
pecker, so they've also asked for david pecker's testimony on this. and among the portions that they will here tomorrow, this is on cross-examination where aiml bove asked pecker, do you remember that you confirm that during the august 2015 meeting that there was no discussion of catch and kill, correct? pecker says yes, question and during the august 2015 meeting, there was no discussion of a financial component to any agreement with president trump and michael cohen, correct? says there was a...
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david pecker testified that president trump all called him -- excuse me, david pecker testified that trump called david pecker to discuss buying the life rights to karen mcdougal's story. she's the playboy model that allegedly had an affair with the former president. and trump was concerned she was about to sell her story rights to another media outlet. and the conversation was whether or not he thought, whether or not pecker thought trump should actually buy those media rights. that's one piece. the second piece is the decision not to have funded mcdougal's life rights. ark mi initially purchased mcdougal's life rights to the storying and the plan, as a we've heard, is trump was going to pay david pecker back. that never came to i fruition, and the jury wants to hear more about why did trump never actually pay the $150,000 for karen mcdougal's story. and finally, more testimony read back from david pecker talking about the 20215 trump tower -- 2015 trump tower meeting with the former president and michael cohen in which pecker offered to be, quote, eyes and ears for the trump campai
david pecker testified that president trump all called him -- excuse me, david pecker testified that trump called david pecker to discuss buying the life rights to karen mcdougal's story. she's the playboy model that allegedly had an affair with the former president. and trump was concerned she was about to sell her story rights to another media outlet. and the conversation was whether or not he thought, whether or not pecker thought trump should actually buy those media rights. that's one...
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what is good for the prosecution, they are focusing on david pecker. i think david pecker was the most material witness. everyone says it was michael cohen. he was very important. but pecker was the one who established the conspiracy. this is how it happened and this is why we did what we did. for the campaign. this is what we are going to do for donald trump's campaign. she said they didn't want to hurt him. they didn't want to hurt his campaign. that's what the prosecution would argue was the conspiracy was about. protecting him. >> given the answers to these questions, how many hours will it take just to hear that form? >> well, i was reading after the jurors were excused, that's when the lawyers went back and forth. it seems that, well, first of all, they want the instructions read back. so that will take, i don't know how much of the jury instructions they want read back. it took an hour today. then it seems like it will be an hour to have it read back. it could take between the jury instructions and the readback, about two hours. >> and would you
what is good for the prosecution, they are focusing on david pecker. i think david pecker was the most material witness. everyone says it was michael cohen. he was very important. but pecker was the one who established the conspiracy. this is how it happened and this is why we did what we did. for the campaign. this is what we are going to do for donald trump's campaign. she said they didn't want to hurt him. they didn't want to hurt his campaign. that's what the prosecution would argue was the...
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pecker for several decades. >> two different distinctly figures. >> david pecker wanted donald i'm trying to be president, still views him in a favorable light which was made clear on the witness stand. michael cohen obviously is that he wanted to see trump held accountable. we saw what he said his podcast and it was those two figures whose testimony was the one of the last things that jury heard this morning before they made this pivotal to todd blanche, it's been a lot of time trying to knock down the importance of that meeting in 2015, essentially saying, well, david pecker never use the term catch and kill, though, obviously, when the testimony he was read back to the jury they would have heard he may not have used that phrase, catch and kill, but he did talk about catching and killing stories as being one of the services he could offer to then candidate trump it's a great point because it his closing argument, todd blanche spent a lot of time trying to debunk the idea that this was all done as part of a conspiracy to influence the election that point, it was pretty clear that that wa
pecker for several decades. >> two different distinctly figures. >> david pecker wanted donald i'm trying to be president, still views him in a favorable light which was made clear on the witness stand. michael cohen obviously is that he wanted to see trump held accountable. we saw what he said his podcast and it was those two figures whose testimony was the one of the last things that jury heard this morning before they made this pivotal to todd blanche, it's been a lot of time...
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>> he told me to work with david, meaning david pecker, and get control over this. purchase the life rights. we need to stop this from getting a. >> was a conversation of pushing it repaired of time? >> yes. >> during the negotiation to purchase and acquire the life rights, we are talking stormy daniels here, what he said is what i want you to do is push it out as long as you can. just get past the election. if i win, it has no relevance. i will be president. if i lose, i don't even care. >> did you bring up at the time the topic of his wife, melania, and one of those conversations? >> i did. >> what did you say? >> i said to him, and how is things going to go with upstairs? >> were you concerned about the? >> i was. >> and what, if anything, did he say to you about the? >> don't worry, he goes. he goes, how long do you think i will be on the market for? not long. >> what did you understand that to mean? >> he was not thinking about melania. this was all about the campaign. >> a few things. women will hate me and guys may think it's cool. i will leave that where it
>> he told me to work with david, meaning david pecker, and get control over this. purchase the life rights. we need to stop this from getting a. >> was a conversation of pushing it repaired of time? >> yes. >> during the negotiation to purchase and acquire the life rights, we are talking stormy daniels here, what he said is what i want you to do is push it out as long as you can. just get past the election. if i win, it has no relevance. i will be president. if i lose,...