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what we are hearing now is argument on a motion made by david shafer. among other things, he is saying he cannot be charged with impersonating a public officer under georgia law because residential electors do not constitute public officers as defined. that is where we are right now. i tell you i think craig guillen has an interesting argument. it is not clear whether a presidential elector would constitute a public officer. a presidential elector comes into our lives once every four years. they also lack some of the hallmarks we associate with those commonly seen as public officers. that is what judge scott mcafee is entertaining right now, jose. >> what are your biggest takeaways? >> as mentioned, one of the key things is what is a public officer as mentioned in the indictment? if the elect wars are not included in the various definitions that we seek in the code of what a public officer is, does that mean he cannot be charged with impersonating one as listed in the indictment? i suspect the state will come with a response that lists how the elector i
what we are hearing now is argument on a motion made by david shafer. among other things, he is saying he cannot be charged with impersonating a public officer under georgia law because residential electors do not constitute public officers as defined. that is where we are right now. i tell you i think craig guillen has an interesting argument. it is not clear whether a presidential elector would constitute a public officer. a presidential elector comes into our lives once every four years....
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so david shafer was the former chairman of the republican party of georgia. and of course, we saw this effort in several battleground states for the trump team to organize their own republican allies during the idea was we're going to put forth these alternate slates of electors, fake slates of electors in states that joe biden, one and we're going to use these to contest the results of the election on january 6th that eventually be able to overturn the election that was sort of the thinking behind the scheme. now, in georgia, they put forth this fake slate of electors david shape before it was one of them. but he also played a role in helping to organize the other folks who served as fake electors. he's alleged to reserve the room or the fake electors met ended their whole ceremonial signing of this document saying that we're the republican electors for the state of georgia, again, a state that joe biden, one now his attorneys are here in court arguing a couple of things because they're taking issue with the way he's described as a fake elector in the indict
so david shafer was the former chairman of the republican party of georgia. and of course, we saw this effort in several battleground states for the trump team to organize their own republican allies during the idea was we're going to put forth these alternate slates of electors, fake slates of electors in states that joe biden, one and we're going to use these to contest the results of the election on january 6th that eventually be able to overturn the election that was sort of the thinking...
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. >> david shafer is an insurance broker who sells from a wide variety and range of companies. >> thisver seen spit as bad as it is today. >> and get this, he says. even the insurer of last resort, the california fair plan, now flooded with desperate new customers to pay very high prices for marginal non high quality policies, is a bit shaky >> the california fair plan itself has announced that it is not prepared for a catastrophe in the state of california. >> the insurers insist they should be able to predict future losses and set rates using sophisticated computer programs, models that predict future. losses, instead of being based on outdated and obsolete past claims records. >> companies would like the ability to make their case to the state right now, it's illegal under california law for a company to come in with a model that shows us if they do right in higher risk areas, how that would increase their future expected claims. >> but at what cost to consumers? >> i have clients of ours have n non-renewed, where the cost of a new policy is five times of what it was before. >> your
. >> david shafer is an insurance broker who sells from a wide variety and range of companies. >> thisver seen spit as bad as it is today. >> and get this, he says. even the insurer of last resort, the california fair plan, now flooded with desperate new customers to pay very high prices for marginal non high quality policies, is a bit shaky >> the california fair plan itself has announced that it is not prepared for a catastrophe in the state of california. >> the...
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. >> david shafer is an insurance broker who sells from a wide variety and range of companies. >> this in this industry. i've never seen it as bad as it is today. >> and get this, he says. even the insurer of last resort, the california fair planl now flooded with desperate new customers to payc very high prices for marginal non high quality policies, is a bit shaky. >> the announced that it is cate in the state of california. >> insurers insist they should be able to predict future losses and set rates using sophisticated computer programs. models that predict future losses on outdated and obsolete past claims records, companies would like the ability to make their case right now, it's illegal unr california law for a company to come in with a model that shows that if they do write in higher risk areas, how that would increase their future expected claims costs. >>úbut at what cost to >> i have seen premiums that non-renewed aof ours have been it was before. >> your claim is, i mean, totally ridiculous to me to get canceled. >> well,úthis is as serious as it gets for california and th
. >> david shafer is an insurance broker who sells from a wide variety and range of companies. >> this in this industry. i've never seen it as bad as it is today. >> and get this, he says. even the insurer of last resort, the california fair planl now flooded with desperate new customers to payc very high prices for marginal non high quality policies, is a bit shaky. >> the announced that it is cate in the state of california. >> insurers insist they should be able...
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. >> david shafer is an insurance broker who sells from a wide variety and range of companies. >> thiseen it as bad as it is today. >> and get this, he says. even the insurer of last resort, the california fair plan, now flooded with desperate new prices for marginal non high quality policies, is a bit shaky. >> the california fair plan itself has announced that it is not prepared for a catastrophe in the state of california. >> insurers insist they should be able to predict future losses and set rates using sophisticated computer programs, models that predict future losses instead of being based on outdated and obsolete past claims records. >> companies would like the ability to make their case to the state. right now, it's illegal under california law for a company a model that shows if they do right and higher risk areas, how that would increase their future expected claims costs. >> but at what cost to consumers ? >> i have seen premiums that were clients of ours have been non-renewed where the cost of a new policy is five times ofc wht it was before. >> zero claim is,úiúmean, tota
. >> david shafer is an insurance broker who sells from a wide variety and range of companies. >> thiseen it as bad as it is today. >> and get this, he says. even the insurer of last resort, the california fair plan, now flooded with desperate new prices for marginal non high quality policies, is a bit shaky. >> the california fair plan itself has announced that it is not prepared for a catastrophe in the state of california. >> insurers insist they should be able...
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. >> and nick, there was also this issue of the fake elector, one of them, david shafer, who is the former gop the georgia state gop chair today, arguing that he was just following legal counsel. can bad legal advice absolve someone of a crime. and i think i may know the answer to this, but explain this to us. >> well the obvious answer is no, but there is a following, basically relying on the advice of counsel and i think what he's going to say is that he was doing this because if they were successful in these other lawsuits, that this would provide the opportunity for the electors to change in georgia i think there's lots of evidence that's even set forth in the indictment in georgia that shows that mr. schafer knew that there was an issue here. he lied to investigators. he did a number of things from which a jury could infer that he knew that what he was doing was unlawful, that he knew he was skirting law and violating it. so even though this is an argument, they're making on the motions, this is a issue that will ultimately be decided by a georgia jury and the jury in washington, dc >
. >> and nick, there was also this issue of the fake elector, one of them, david shafer, who is the former gop the georgia state gop chair today, arguing that he was just following legal counsel. can bad legal advice absolve someone of a crime. and i think i may know the answer to this, but explain this to us. >> well the obvious answer is no, but there is a following, basically relying on the advice of counsel and i think what he's going to say is that he was doing this because if...
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the other is emotion by one of trump's fake electors in georgia, david shafer, to dismiss all charges against him another co-defendant in that case, the former trump attorney john eastman. he is poised to lose his law license. a judge in california recommending that eastman be disbarred for his role as one of the architects of the fake elector scheme, joining me now to discuss all of this, eugenie scott, senior politics reporter at axios. >> eugene. good morning to you. it was wonderful to have you driving >> so of course, >> we had been talking so much about fani willis. is the hur affair admitted affair, but now we are going to be back on track with this case. what do you expect today? >> well, it's certainly she i expect some zao perhaps from her trying to make the case by her actions that she really is the best person to remain in this position, which of course the judge allowed, but she's been attacked significantly over the past few weeks and months not just because of her actions, but making the argument by critics that perhaps he hasn't even qualified and that this this case,
the other is emotion by one of trump's fake electors in georgia, david shafer, to dismiss all charges against him another co-defendant in that case, the former trump attorney john eastman. he is poised to lose his law license. a judge in california recommending that eastman be disbarred for his role as one of the architects of the fake elector scheme, joining me now to discuss all of this, eugenie scott, senior politics reporter at axios. >> eugene. good morning to you. it was wonderful...
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shafer, also argued to get his charges dismissed. reformer georgia gop chair was charged with multiple counts, including for impersonating a public official when he and others showed up to the georgia capital in december 2020 to act as so-called fake electors for trump. shafer's attorneys argued the term should be dropped calling it quote, really nasty. >> it is a just a pejorative saving. >> shafer argues he was not participating in a shady scheme when he tried to cast a vote as an elector, saying trump won the 2020 election in georgia instead, he argues he was simply following novel legal advice to give his candidate legal options to challenge the election court ended without a decision and the judge gave no indication as to when he would give one. it is very important to note that other co-defendants have previously tried to make first amendment arguments and failed. now that this case is back on track, there are still a very big questions that remain, and perhaps the most important and one is will fani willis be able to get an au
shafer, also argued to get his charges dismissed. reformer georgia gop chair was charged with multiple counts, including for impersonating a public official when he and others showed up to the georgia capital in december 2020 to act as so-called fake electors for trump. shafer's attorneys argued the term should be dropped calling it quote, really nasty. >> it is a just a pejorative saving. >> shafer argues he was not participating in a shady scheme when he tried to cast a vote as an...
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and therefore, it's not protected by the first attorneys for trump co-defendant, david shafer, also argued to get his charges dismissed. reform or georgia gop chair was charged with multiple counts, including for impersonating a public official when he and others showed up to the georgia capital in december 2020 to act as so-called fake electors for trump. shafer's attorneys argued the term should be dropped calling it quote, really nasty. >> it is a just a pejorative salen. >> shafer argues he was not participating in a shady scheme when he tried to cast a vote as an elector, saying trump won the 2020 election in georgia instead, he argues he was simply following novel legal advice to give his candidate legal options to challenge because the election court ended without a decision today, and we should mention that previous first amendment arguments by former code defendants in this case have failed before, judge mcafee even still big questions remain around this case, not just how judge mcafee will rule on these motions, but will fani willis being able to get this case back on track for a
and therefore, it's not protected by the first attorneys for trump co-defendant, david shafer, also argued to get his charges dismissed. reform or georgia gop chair was charged with multiple counts, including for impersonating a public official when he and others showed up to the georgia capital in december 2020 to act as so-called fake electors for trump. shafer's attorneys argued the term should be dropped calling it quote, really nasty. >> it is a just a pejorative salen. >>...
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. >> michael, an attorney for trump's co-defendant, david shafer, who's the former chair of the georgiaan party. he asked the judge to strike the term fake elector from the case saying it was a quote, legal conclusion. >> what do you make that argument? >> i don't think he's going to get very far with it. i mean, you don't always want to have conclusively statements in an indictment those things should be genetically up to the jury has not like they're being told now, here you go. he's actually the fake elector or whatever. i >> don't know that he'll get far. i will say this. i've watched his trial, judge, and he seemed to light to split the baby if you we'll and parson language and it wouldn't surprise me. he said, well, this might be a better term. i'm going to strike this. the end of this sentence or something like that. but it's certainly not going to throw the indictment out there's just that's just not going to happen. i don't believe at this point this is sort of nitpicking and cleaning up parts of the indictment and take an issue with some language at the da chose to put it befo
. >> michael, an attorney for trump's co-defendant, david shafer, who's the former chair of the georgiaan party. he asked the judge to strike the term fake elector from the case saying it was a quote, legal conclusion. >> what do you make that argument? >> i don't think he's going to get very far with it. i mean, you don't always want to have conclusively statements in an indictment those things should be genetically up to the jury has not like they're being told now, here you...