i mean, he called carmel harris dumb multiple times this week to david urban's point, he could be attacking her on a whole host of substantive things. but the thing that he attacks her on is something that is clearly very false because of the fact that she, of all that she's accomplished her education, et cetera this is who trump is it's also exactly the thing that disturbs moderate independent voters the most about him. this campaign now is going to be fought on the grounds of fitness for office. they weaponize that against joe biden because of biden's age, biden has gone now. so now the question of fitness is going to fall squarely on donald trump's lap. a. he is now the oldest candidate in the race, but be he every day that he presents himself as somebody who is who is divorced from reality, someone who cannot handle himself in a presidential way is a problem for him. and it's one of the reasons that voters they don't like the distraction. they don't like the headache. they don't like waking up in the morning and wondering what did trump do? last night you got sick of it. >> at the last

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urban goes rights for him at night mccarthy is finally, you know, david urban is sometimes rise there to massachusetts, were happy to have you, david bakari, you live in the south. you've been in north carolina this spate of polls from fox news that just came out showing the race basically tied harris up a point or two in some of them trump up a point in north carolina. >> how do you see the movement the last few weeks, bakari easy, we're underdogs were underdogs. this is donald trump's race to lose every vote counts. and now masdar sounded like a really terrible football coach, like every inch counts, every vote counts let's go out there, register as many voters as you possibly can, is going to come down to turn out on election day, all of these really elementary slogans that people have. but the fact is commonly harris as an underdog and she has to win every single day. and today's a big day to win. the only with her stops and felt georgia. but her rally tonight in savannah, she has not visited interview out of the park regardless of what she says tonight or how good she does it, fo

you can call it trump's peace plan, but in fact, it is a plan proposed by mike pompeo and david urban, i know both of them very well. i generally agree with their proposals, but i am not at all sure that the trump administration will ultimately agree to them. donald trump has never given any direct assessments or comments on the so-called peace plan of mike pompeo. but in in his recent lengthy interview with elon musk, he spoke in some detail about the state of affairs around the ukrainian conflict, and most importantly about its causes, about its actions. a large fighting force, it is very powerful. ukraine is currently short of people, they are using young and old people for war, and because of this we are in a very bad position. and it is not only the united states, the whole world is in a bad position, according to trump. the biggest threat to it is not global warming, but nuclear warming, as the republican put it, although, perhaps, nuclear winter would be more appropriate here. the former american president is concerned that because of people like biden. during the cold war in t

together with lobbyist david urban , pompeo published a so-called peace plan for ukraine in a columnall street journal, which, naturally, categorically does not suit russia. it also talks about a $500 billion land list for kiev, joining nato, and the eu, and reparations, so what? there were many interesting proposals regarding what us policy towards ukraine should be, and many of these i supported the proposals. it was not about a peace plan. for ukraine as such, and i think the main problem with such a plan is that there is no guarantee that trump will agree to it. you can call it trump's peace plan, but in fact it is a plan proposed by mike pompeo and david urban, i know both of them very well. i generally agree with their proposals, but i am not at all sure that the trump administration will ultimately agree to them. direct assessments and comments on the so-called peace plan of mike pompeo donald. russia would never agree with this, and we, the united states, go and declare it. i know putin very well, i got along very well with him, he respected me. putin is a good negotiator. ru

you can call it trump's peace plan, but in fact it is a plan proposed by mike pompeo and david urban. know both of them very well. i generally agree with their proposals, but i am not at all sure that the trump administration will ultimately agree to them. donald trump has never given any direct assessments or comments on mike pompeo's so-called peace plan. but in his recent lengthy interview. i know putin very well, i am very got along well, he respected me. putin is a good negotiator. russia defeated germany together with us, they defeated napoleon. russia has existed for a long time, it is a great fighting force, it is very powerful. ukraine now lacks people, they use young and old people for war, and because of this we are in a very bad position. and it is not only about the usa, the whole world is in a bad position according to trump. the biggest threat to him is not global. some stupidity can happen, while trump himself has somehow forgotten that this is under his rule, which took years to develop the architecture of global deterrence was beginning to crack at the seams, it was

together with lobbyist david urban in a column for the wall street journal, pompeo published the so-calledan for ukraine, which russia, naturally. categorically does not suit, there is a $500 billion land list for kiev, joining nato, and the eu, and reparations. and what does bolton think? there were many interesting proposals regarding what us policy towards ukraine should be, and i supported many of these proposals. it was not about a peace plan for ukraine as such, and i think the main drawback of such a plan is that there is no guarantee that trump will agree to it. you can call it trump's peace plan, but in fact it is a plan that was proposed mike pompeo and david urban, i know them both very well. i generally agree with their proposals, but i am not at all sure that the trump administration will ultimately agree with them. donald trump has never given direct assessments and comments on the so-called peace plan of mike pompeo. but in his recent lengthy interview with elon musk, he spoke in some detail about the state of affairs around the ukrainian conflict and, most importantly, abou

and his campaign figure how to get them under control david axelrod, david urban, david chalian, three david's guys. >> thank you very, very just ahead. we'll get the latest on the urgency, ceasefire and hostage talks that are ongoing right here in the middle east, you're watching the situation room. we're alive from tel aviv oh, are you i mean, a child what you really need to life is some fricking we're talking jacques wanted rte the total torque doubt crossover the higher the force horsepower, the more power dollars bonus cash allowance don't miss dodge power dollars. catch them before they're gone when you get your tools from harbor freight, something about the job feels different your wallet, whatever you do, do it for less however freight, save even more that are parking lot sale this weekend meet the jennifer's each planning their future for the chase mobile app hello, new apartment. >> one bank for now for later for life with so much entertainment out there wouldn't it be great... ...if you could find what you want, all in one place? show me paris. xfinity internet customers can

urban, ashley allison, david axelrod, and alyssa farah griffin, david axelrod how encourage should democrats be? >> is there a danger of them actually being kind of too euphoric? >> yeah, i've been talking about this for some time. look she has made extraordinary progress. we were all in milwaukee a month ago and, there was euphoria there and a sense that this race was over, that they were going to win by a landslide, perhaps sweeping big majorities in the house and senate and things have changed dramatically but this is still a very competitive race if the election were today, i'm not sure who would win and i think it may well be president trump because it's an electoral college fight. and in those battleground states, yeah, we were looking at national numbers right at the top of this program. that's a mean, it's misleading. >> i've said and i've said several times hear that for a democrat to win those battleground states, they have to have a significant lead in the electoral college. remember, joe biden won by 7 million votes nationally, nationally last time, a margin of 45,000 votes or 44

urban, ashley allison, and david axelrod and alyssa farah griffin, david axelrod how encourage should democrats be? is there a danger of them actually being kind of too euphoric? >> yeah, i've been talking about this for some time. look she has made extraordinary progress. we were all in milwaukee a month ago and there was euphoria there and a sense that this race was over, that they were going to win by a landslide, perhaps sweeping big majorities in the house and senate and things have changed dramatically. but this is still a very competitive race if the election were today, i'm not sure who would win and i think it may well be president trump because it's an electoral college fight. and in those battleground states, we were looking at national numbers, right at the top of this program. that's i mean, it's misleading. >> i've said and i've said several times. hear that for democrat to win those battleground states, they have to have a significant lead in the electoral college. remember, joe biden won by 7 million votes nationally, nationally last time, and a margin of 45,000 votes

david urban: he looked lost. he looked puzzled. he looked bewildered. i just looked at it as that was my father if that was your dad or somebody you loved your grandfather, would you put him in that situation knowing that that might happen, would you put him in that situation? i think not. pamela brown (voiceover): in the aftermath, biden's team launched into damage control. joe biden: folks, i don't walk as easy as i used to. i don't speak as smoothly as i used to. i don't debate as well as i used to. well, i know what i do know. i don't know how to tell the truth. david chalian: he was jet-lagged after traveling to europe twice. he flew all the way back to los angeles for a fundraiser, being sick with a cold. whatever. joe biden tried day in and day out, none of it stopped the steady drumbeat of calls for joe biden to be replaced at the top of the democratic ticket. nancy pelosi: i think it's a legitimate question to say, is this an episode or is this a condition? anderson cooper: to your fellow democrats who are continuing to say, look, this was one

urban is here with us last time. >> david urban was trump and pennsylvania, he won pennsylvania and we're going to keep you here. we've got locked the door. >> you don't want he said there he's like, good luck. >> he's armed pennsylvania whisper and we're not letting you go back. but look obviously it makes sense for trump to be out there. he's not going to get the dominant position in national media and it may not matter if he can go and scratch another five votes, another ten votes in the 20 votes back in his column in the swing states where it matters, that's his business. but for us this is the big opportunity to go from a tied race to push our numbers up 1.2 points, maybe three point, we come out of this convention with a major balance that puts us in the best possible position after labor day. we don't want to be tied i don't like being tied with donald trump because we've had now 20 plus days a positive press he's been falling down the stairs slipknot, banana peels and put himself in the eyeball. we should not be tied. we want to pull ahead. that's our opportunity this week a

was already it's hard to them, david chief david urban i know you're close. >> i know you're close to josh, right? obviously, you're a republican. everybody knows your credentials. is shapiro the strongest she could pick, beat be objective? >> so josh shapiro is the strong. he is the, you know, michael, they always say when people selected an athlete in the draft, we pick the best athlete available in the draft. josh shapiro is the best political athlete in this draft class, period, full full-stop, gifted order, great guy, moderate he is he's definitely the strongest pick. >> however, comma that being said, you talked about this earlier in your show and i've heard you speak about it before. the democratic party has an anti-semitism problem, they have a huge problem with anti-semitism in their, in their progressive wing. and query, does josh shapiro's pick, does that cost them the state of michigan? i don't know. i don't know what their internal numbers look like. look, i think mark kelly, you know, michael, i went to west point, a military guy served in combat and mike, mark kelly, i

david chief david urban i know you're close. >> i know you're close to josh, right? obviously, you're a republican. everybody knows your credentials is shapiro the strongest she could pick? be objective? >> so josh shapiro is strong. he is the, you know, michael, they always say when people selected an athlete in the draft, we pick the best athlete available in the draft. josh shapiro is the best political athlete in this draft class period, full stop gifted order, great guy, moderate he is, he's definitely the strongest pick. however, comma that being said, you talked about this earlier in your show and i've heard you speak about it before the democratic party has an anti-semitism problem, they have a huge problem with anti-semitism in their, in their progressive wing and query does josh shapiro's pick, does that cost them the state of michigan i don't know. i don't know what their internal numbers look like. look, i think mark kelly, you know, michael i went to west point and military guy served in combat and mike, mark kelly, i agree with terror on this it's a ver

let's talk more about this big decision with david urban. he's a former trump campaign adviser and a cnn senior political commentator, we're also joined by cnn political commentator bakari sellers. he's a former democratic state representative in south carolina. bakari, i want to start with you because i do think it's easy. maybe traditionally to think the vice presidential pick doesn't matter as much. but why is this so different? why is it so important that she gets it right here, set the stage well it's the first true big moment of decision that she has in the race. and i do think though and i think david actually speak to this a lot. can speak to this a lot better than i can. there probably is one candidate and josh shapiro who may help marginally in pennsylvania this is going to be a marginal race, and the other thing that matters, and i think every, you know, the four of us know it, but it's important for our viewers to know it. there's really no path that you can draw up for kamala harris to be president of the united states. that doe

you can call it trump's peace plan, but really... this is a proposal from mike pompeo and david urban them both very well. i agree with their general direction on this plan, but i'm not entirely sure it will find any support in the actual donald trump administration. trump is already the official candidate of his party and haris is now practically. leave now, or we'll do this the hard way, but i think she's worse, i think she's a terrible candidate, i'm not a fan of biden, he's not a smart guy, but she's not smart, there's no way to figure out who's smarter in a face-to-face format it turns out squabbles over debates, trump wants september 4th on conservative fox news in swing pennsylvania, harris insists on a still biden date, september 10th on abc, where liberal anchors are always ready to lend a helping hand. from the moment she became a presidential candidate, she did not give a single interview, she was not asked about anything, neither about politics, nor about what she is, and she got away with it, they hid it in the same way biden, now they are hiding haris, but at the chicago

you can call it trump's peace plan, but in fact it is a plan proposed by mike pompeo and david urban,f them very well. i generally agree with their proposals, but i am absolutely sure that the trump administration will ultimately agree with them. donald trump has never given direct assessments and comments on the so-called peace plan of mike pompeo. but in his recent lengthy interview with elon musk, he spoke in some detail about the state of affairs around the ukrainian conflict and the main thing is on its causes, on the actions of the joe biden administration, which... led to the current state of affairs. biden started saying some stupid things, for example, he said that ukraine could become a nato member state. russia would never agree with this, and we, the united states, go and declare such a thing. i know putin very well. i got along very well with him. he respected me. putin is a good negotiator. russia defeated germany together with us, they defeated napoleon. russia has existed for a long time, it is a great fighting force, it is very powerful. ukraine is currently short of

urban, the head of a lobbying company close to the republicans, presented their version.they claim that the way to peace lies through strength. this means that it is necessary to strengthen military support for ukraine, remove all prohibitions on strikes deep into russia, lower world oil prices in order to weaken the economy of the russian federation. and finally, to admit ukraine to nato. which of these plans is really trump's plan? it is unlikely that he himself knows this today trump. he is an impulsive and unpredictable person, which means that his victory will create both new opportunities and great risks for ukraine. president zelenskyi called me, we had a good talk, and i said that this war must be ended. are you familiar with russian? military vehicle all they do is wage war. they defeated hitler, they defeated napoleon. the spring offensive never happened. the russians have millions of shells and thousands of tanks. many russians were killed, but many ukrainians were also killed. this should not have happened. or are the ukrainians themselves ready for possible n

finally , the us secretary of state in the trump administration , mike pompeo, and david urban, the leader, presented their version. a lobby company close to the republicans, they claim that the way to peace lies through force, which means that it is necessary to strengthen military support for ukraine, lift all bans on strikes deep into russia, lower world oil prices to weaken the russian economy and, ultimately, accept ukraine into nato. which of these plans is really trump's plan. it is unlikely that even trump himself knows this today. he is a man of impulses. and unpredictable, which means that his victory will create both new opportunities and great risks for ukraine. president zelenskyi called me, we had a good talk, and i said that this war must be ended. you are dealing with the russian war machine, everything they do is just are waging wars, they defeated hitler , defeated napoleon. the spring offensive never happened. the russians have millions of shells. thousands of tanks, many russians were killed, but many ukrainians were also killed, this should not have happened. are ukrai

urban but jamaal, this is your candidate tv's a visual media. i gotcha. i gotcha. >> i don't think people are voting for her for that reason. listen, i think the reality when people, when we're taking a look at where she is, the value, she's has been very clear about this. and i'm somebody who's seen her. i've tracked her career from when she was a da all the way to she was if vice president xi hold bad actors accountable, donald trump's about the worst bad actor on the american stage right now. but we can think about the issues of positions her positions, which he's saying about her values is she's a fact-driven lawyer and she's leading a coalition right now that stretches from aoc and bernie on the left all the way to adam kinzinger and liz cheney on the right. and so sometimes when you're doing that, you're going to find the best position you can find that holds to your values. but that also enlarged your coalition that's called governing. so if donald trump were interested in governing for the broad swath, the american people, he might look

finally , the us secretary of state in the trump administration , mike pompeo, and david urban, the head of a lobbying company close to the republicans, presented their version. they claim: the way to peace lies through force, which means that military support for ukraine must be strengthened, all bans on strikes should be lifted. in russia, to reduce world oil prices in order to weaken the economy of the russian federation and , ultimately, to accept ukraine into nato. which of these plans is really trump's plan? it is unlikely that trump himself knows this today, he is an impulsive and unpredictable person, which means that his victory will create both new opportunities and great risks for ukraine. president zelensky called me, we had a good talk, and i said that this war must be ended. you are dealing with the russian war machine. all they do is wage war. they defeated hitler, they defeated napoleon. the spring offensive never happened, the russians have millions of shells and thousands of tanks, many russians were killed, but many ukrainians were also killed, this should not have hap

finally , the us secretary of state in the trump administration , mike pompeo, and david urban, the headbby company close to the republicans, presented their version. they claim that the way to peace lies through force, which means that it is necessary to strengthen military support for ukraine, remove all bans on strikes deep into russia , to lower world oil prices to weaken the economy rf and eventually accept. ukraine to nato. which of these plans is really trump's plan? it is unlikely that even trump himself knows this today. he is an impulsive and unpredictable person, which means that his victory will create both new opportunities and great risks for ukraine. president zelensky called me, we had a good talk, and i said that this war must be ended. you're dealing with the russian war machine, that's... all they do is wage war. they defeated hitler, they defeated napoleon. the spring offensive never happened. the russians have millions of shells and thousands tanks many russians were killed, but many... ukrainians were also killed, this should not have happened. are the ukrainians th

urban, the head of a lobbying company close to the republicans.y claim that the way to peace lies through force, which means that it is necessary to strengthen military support for ukraine and remove all prohibitions. struck deep into russia, to lower world oil prices, to weaken the russian economy and , ultimately, to accept ukraine into nato. which of these plans is really trump's plan? it is unlikely that even trump himself knows this today. he is an impulsive and unpredictable person, which means that his victory will create something new for ukraine opportunities as well as great risks. president zelensky called me. we had a good talk and i said that this war must be ended. you are dealing with the russian war machine. all they do is wage war. they defeated hitler, they defeated napoleon. the spring offensive never happened. the russians have millions of shells and thousands of tanks. many russians were killed, but many ukrainians were also killed. this should not have happened. are ukrainians themselves ready for possible negotiations? the s

. >> david urban, let me start with you because you're seeing how the harris campaign is responding toe is saying they only had a few hours of a heads up as they were, you know, sussing out what they're going to say back to this. do you think will ultimately see the two of them on that debate stage on october 1, yeah. >> i think you will. and i think senator vance will comport themselves very well maggie haberman noted in the previous segment, out on the campaign trail has been an incredibly good job is message discipline and talking about the things that i think the former president should be. and he's doing a very effective job at that he's he is well-suited to this job. and i think he's gonna do a really have a great debate against governor former congressman, and now governor walz. >> karen, you heard j.d vance referring to a debate that has no audiences, a garbage debate obviously that's what we saw. trump and biden do. we saw what happened there? the audience or lack of that was to write it for that. but do you think that we will start seeing debates take the more typical format

>> i just david urban was just on and he said it doesn't actually, as senator schatz had said give, a permission structure to maybe some disaffected republicans are some republicans his david urban said it didn't, but i wonder what you think david might be right specifically with republicans, but i'll tell you what it does do. it appeals to independents okay. because independents want to see someone who doesn't just appeal to their base, the republican convention was a base convention. the fact that we're going to have half a dozen republicans, former trump people speaking here, independence are listening to that and they're seeing someone who's appealing just beyond the base. and so yes, maybe that doesn't give a permission slip to republicans, but i think that matters in the middle. people who are on the fence will see that. and we'll see someone who's appealing just beyond the base. >> we saw some protesters, not many, three or four inside who were holding up a banner that read stop arming israel. that was really in the back of here the united center there, of course were protests

ashley allison, david urban. thank you both so much. thank and then just moments from now, i'm going to talk to trump's former national security advisor about this new indictment. he is just written escaping new book on trump's foreign policy and up next, one of the biggest interviews of this election cycle about to happen right here on cnn, details on the very first first joint interview with the new democratic presidential ticket coming this labor day weekend. bounce back his challenge, yet it's time dare to come it's got actually, it's got suspense see how you get more, this labor day weekend to turn the channel the my bobs.com i'm going to find out how starting businesses never easy. >> the star now, eight months pregnant, that's a different story with the chase inc. cart. we got up and running in no time earn unlimited 1.5% cash back whenever you purge chase inc. business unlimited car from case for visitors gutters can cause big problems fast until now, call a three-three lee filter today for your free gutter inspection, i've had

. >> david urban, let me start with you because you're seeing how the harris campaign is responding toce is saying they only had a few hours of a heads up as they were, you know, sussing out. what's they're going to say back to this. do you think will ultimately see the two of them on that debate stage on october 1 yeah. >> i think you will. and i think senator vance will comport themselves very well maggie haberman noted in the previous segment out on the campaign trail has been an incredibly good job is message discipline and talking about the things that i think the former president should be. and he's doing a very effective job at that. he's he's well-suited for this job and i think he's going to do a really have a great debate against governor former congressman and now governor walz karen, you heard j.d. vance referring to a debate that has no audience as a garbage debate, obviously, that's what we saw trump and biden do. we saw what happened there? i don't think the audience or lack of it was to credit for that. but do you think that we will start seeing debates take the more ty

ashley allison, david urban. thank you both so much. thanks. and then just moments from now, i want to talk to trump's former national security pretty adviser about this new indictment. he has just written escaping new book on trump's foreign policy and up next, one of the biggest interviews of this election cycle about to happen right here on cnn, details on the very first joint interview with the new democratic presidential ticket there's not a good hit and that's what i heard rough and tough monsters of amid this is your team unequivocally we have the right set of individuals that's what we do you're going to take us to the next level. >> hard knocks training camp with the chicago bears, streaming exclusively on max one child dies from choking. >> every school week that's why it's so important to get your very own life back the life-saving device that's already saved over 2000 lives. >> our mission is simple. we hope to save the thousands of lives. that needlessly die each year from the choking accident. >> call. now live facts saves lives,

>> he is someone who is routinely peddled anti-semitic tropes like this david urban, i'm uniquely qualified. >> i know both both. >> got man, you're front pencil friends, but i've never heard you refer to josh shapiro is the jewish governor of the commonwealth of pennsylvania. i've just heard you refer to them as the government. >> look, i think right josh, shapiro is a great governor, right? he's everybody's governor does a great job and that's what i think look, i don't i'm always inside the president's head when he's tweeting this, but i think he's kind of maybe taking a poke at the white white one of the reasons that they allege was not picked was because of his jewish faith be vice president. i think he's trying to bring that back up to the surface, but but i don't know. listen. >> that's right. spend your president conservatives say, the conservatives say that's a great way to alienate jewish voters said, we shouldn't, we need all voters, right? >> we need the rfk voters. we need to all voters as karen just pointed out, this is a game of inches, a game of inches. this is going to be w

and the reason i disagree with david urban is because this race is going to be extremely close. absolutely. and so that number is not zero. what i'm saying what i'm saying is that in a marginal race, these marginal voters do matter. and even in the state of georgia, that number is not marginal. it's over 100,000 people who did not vote for donald trump. >> geoff duncan's a very popular guy in georgia. he may be helpful in the state of georgia, okay. hundred percent. right. okay. >> the other people, they're not going to matter that the people in pennsylvania, i don't know who these people are. >> they don't care real, but i may have an impact, but their lives i want to get it because trump if we could punch up yet three. yes today, former president trump continued to take a level, some very personal attacks on vice president kamala harris, although he's still by the way, out there today attacking joe biden it's pretty clear that he he longs for biden in many ways, but take a listen to him going after harris kamala has no idea what the hell she's doing. >> her father is a marxist

urban, the head of a lobbying company close to the republicans.y claim that the way to peace lies through force, which means that it is necessary to strengthen military support for ukraine, remove all bans on strikes deep into russia, lower world oil prices in order to weaken the economy the russian federation, and ultimately, to accept ukraine into nato. which of these plans? is really trump's plan, it is unlikely that trump himself knows it today, he is an impulsive and unpredictable person, which means that his victory will create both new opportunities and great risks for ukraine. president zelenskyi called me, we had a good talk, and i said that this war must be ended, you are dealing with the russian war machine, all they do is wage war, they have defeated the ghetto. defeated napoleon, the spring offensive never took place, the russians have millions of shells and thousands of tanks, many russians were killed, but many ukrainians were also killed, this should not have happened. are ukrainians themselves ready for possible negotiations? a po

urban, the head of a lobbying company close to the republicans. they claim that the way to peace lies through force, which means that it is necessary to strengthen military support for ukraine, remove all bans on strikes deep into russia, reduce world oil prices in order to weaken the russian economy and, in the end, accept ukraine. to nato which of these plans is really trump's plan? it is unlikely that even trump himself knows this today. he is an impulsive and unpredictable person, which means that his victory will create something new for ukraine opportunities as well as great risks. president zelensky called me, we had a good talk, and i said that this war must be ended. you're dealing with the russian war machine, all they do is make wars. they defeated hitler, they defeated napoleon. the spring offensive never happened. the russians have millions of shells and thousands of tanks. many russians were killed, but many ukrainians were also killed. this should not have happened. are ukrainians themselves ready for possible negotiations? survey o

finally , the us secretary of state in the trump administration mike pompeo and david urban, the head of a lobbying company close to the republicans, presented their version, they claim, the way to peace lies because of force, which means that it is necessary to strengthen military support for ukraine, remove all prohibitions on strikes deep into russia, reduce world oil prices in order to weaken the economy of the russian federation and, ultimately, accept ukraine into nato. which of these plans is really trump's plan? it is unlikely that even trump himself knows this today. he is an impulsive and unpredictable person. chuvana, which means that his victory will create both new opportunities and great risks for ukraine. president zelensky called me, we had a good talk, and i said that this war must be ended. you are dealing with russian military vehicle all they do is wage war. they defeated hitler, they defeated napoleon. the spring offensive never happened. the russians have millions of shells and thousands of tanks. many russians were killed, but many ukrainians were also killed, t

finally , the us secretary of state in the trump administration , mike pompeo, and david urban, the headng company close to the republicans, presented their version. they claim that the way to peace lies through strength. which means that it is necessary to strengthen military support for ukraine, remove all bans on strikes deep into russia, lower world oil prices in order to weaken the economy the russian federation and, in the end, to accept ukraine into nato. which of these plans is really trump's plan. it is unlikely that even trump himself knows this today. he is an impulsive person.

joining me now is cnn political commentators david urban, karen finney and jamal simmons, and seniorolitical correspondent for the wall street journal, molly ball. okay, so he already told us none of us are sleeping. we're all alive right now. and you know what this united center was alive. it's been alive. and frankly, a palpable energy for the last three days. but now the coach took to the field this being, of course, the united center, by the way wasn't there a show once called coach and it was minnesota state, a fictional actual university? yes well, this coach is now a nominee. >> yes he is. he did a beautiful job. i mean, it was a wonderful night. again, a lot of joy, a lot of talking about kamala talking about our vision as democrats, where we want to go from here. um obviously having worked for him, love to see bill clinton. um, but you know, coach walz, i think his son almost stole the show. >> he was just it was even david urban could appreciate a crying son. >> no don't go there. i'm not look, i like look, it was a good night, right i love a bill clinton is, uh, you know,

and let's talk now with david urban. ashley allison. david, we just heard from senator brian schatz of hawaii. when he said he looks at all these republicans were going to be speaking he said he thinks it gives a permission structure to some republican voters to vote for kamala harris. do you agree? >> no by the way, to jamie's point about the democrats being jealous of adam kinzinger spot. i know one person was very jealous. joe biden but he had that spot as opposed to 11, 30 last night when no one was watching, it was late. >> listen, so i like all the people you mentioned, right? adam kinzinger, geoff duncan's a friend. i know every one of those people pretty well. they are not in no universe where they ever going to vote for donald trump. there, there are disgruntled. let's put it that way, republicans and so they are not the folks who are, who could speak to people who are on that bubble, right? all those people that are going to speak that this lineup are people who are they're never trumpers. they're not going to get those people

>> scott jennings, lonely scott, i call him david urban. was there to wait a second. wait a second. i watched from 8:09 to 823. they were just gushing about how greatest speech it was. i think she did fine. think it was as good as they were making it out to be. but if i'm a conservative in america and i'm watching cnn just for the straight middle of the road. that's what i hear for 15 minutes is it's great. and then lonely scott it does look i mean, when you see the path, it does look like tokenism. it's kind of like the same as the view. it's like it's almost better to have nobody there. like msnbc didn't have i don't think you could say i don't think you could say it's better to have nobody there then also lament the fact that you don't think the conservative guy, scott jennings, who is great and we have him on my show all the time, spoke up early enough. i think it was a democratic convention. they turned to democrats, people like david axelrod who ran successful presidential democratic campaigns first for their analysis of this and i don't think that you can say that cnn is anyt

and david urban, a lot republicans got to be on stage tonight. and that includes what, who used to be donald trump's press secretary at the white house? stephanie grisham, what do you make it up listen, i again, i don't think there's going to have a huge impact on the election. >> i think maybe in states like georgia where jeff duncan is pretty well-known figure, it may have some impact because to close date, but most of these people aren't household names and so it's good. it's good theater, good political theater, and it's good to be able to say, look, we've got we're bite, we have a big tent. we even ever republicans here tonight, but electorally, i don't think it makes much difference. >> it is pretty remarkable though that a four-over official who worked in the trump administration will be on stage there. >> i think is remarkable. i think it builds into the narrative that people are tired of donald trump's stick, that it's a bit much, that it's overwhelming that the country is tired of that type of chaos and we need a new direction. and the

i want to discuss all of this with cnn, political commentators jamal simmons and david urban, and also joining us our senior political analyst, ron brownstein david, let me start with you, harris has momentum, is clearly a getting under trump's skin. take a listen to what he he's said about her crowd sizes and his own in the past week alone, listen to this they said, oh, she had a big crowd audit crowd, the press is talking about the crowd in new jersey, i had 107,000 people. the press never even talked about gears. they're fake. i have ten times, 20 times, 30 times the crowd size in history for any country. nobody's had crowds like i have anybody spoken to crowds bigger than me. if you look at martin luther king when he did his speech, his great speech and you look at ours, same real estate, same everything we actually had more people david, why is crowd sides such a big deal for trump yeah, wolf, i can't answer that, but i can't answer. >> i can't make his suggestion just like former speaker mccarthy did stop talking about it. if i didn't know how many minutes the former president sp

. >> let's discuss with cnn political commentators maria cardona and david urban and cnn anchor and chief congressional correspondent manu raja, host of inside politics ban and good to see here as well maria, let me start with you first. i mean, that was a pretty powerful moment that we heard from young lady and despite what trump is saying, the abortion issue is going to be a decisive issue in this election. it is not going away, it is absolutely is not going away, jim. >> and last night, i think it was one of the most compelling moments, not just hadley's story, but the stories of the other two women who went through traumatic life, altering circumstances, they could have died because of these ridiculous laws that have been passed in red states that deny access to lifesaving care for a lot of these women. and that's what republicans don't understand donald trump could not be more wrong when he says that this is not going to be an issue. they thought it wasn't going to be an issue in 2022. and look what happened. this is an issue i think and we've seen this in poll after poll, it doesn't

and with us now, we have are two cnn senior political commentators david urban and van jones, who is also our chief modern dance contributor as it turns out, took everything in my power to give whether we're playing good to. >> kill off guard i was having a whole van dam i tell you, vance answer no privacy share their business judging ideas like a lane for like no judgment at all. why am i where we talked about donald trump but his great, okay. he will move on gets another night the heels down i don't know. let him be okay. >> so big night for tim walz. what do you think he needs to do here to introduce himself as republicans have really tried to define him. >> well, look, i mean, i think that he's done a good job so far. there's been some potholes i'm sure you'll you'll jump on in terms of how he got his family started some stuff on military service. he's got to handle that. he can have a third one of those where it seems like something's not exactly lining up. but the thing that people like about him is the thing that's hard to fake. it's related bility, its authenticity, it's the

>> the first two nights you would hear david urban and scott jennings say that that wasn't for me.hey were, you know, there was a message there, there were a lot of people saying that maybe we're not doing messaging towards, you know, white men, for example, or the middle of the country well, last night we hit that nail on the head. geoff duncan, i saw him in the hallway a minute ago. so and just thank them for his courage and the fact that his speech was rhythmic. it was powerful like he was, he was handsome, is it was just it was essentially guy has got a good tall. it was it was everything you wanted to be and just to have him just to have the crowd chant down usa was just amazing. foreman, i spoke to my my senior political divisor this morning on the way over here as my 80-year-old mother-in-law, ruby rucker and she was just telling me about about our vice president last night. and how the vice president just kind of brought all of that home and said that you know, this is this is a feel-good moment, but it's about true values and it's okay to be happy the enjoyable in the futu

. >> david urban, one of the other people well, that we heard from talking about donald trump was his former communications director, press secretary, stephanie grisham. and one of the most potentially damaging things she said, although i don't know if it will actually be damaging, is how she described how donald trump describes his supporters. let's roll a clip of that i wasn't just a trump supporter i was a true believer. >> i was one of his closest advisors behind closed doors, trump mocks his supporters he calls them basement dwellers you yeah. i'll say this, jake i've done more rallies and spent more time with donald trump stephanie grisham has at rallies around real people, around the basement dwellers. i've never heard him once referred to anybody in those terms. he takes pictures and kitchens were walking through the secret service, take it through, stop so that's not your experience? not my experience at all. over the past since since 2016, never seen it once. so i just flat out dismiss that and then listen to what president obama was talking about and bakari is talking about

. >> david, would you agree with that that this needs to be david urban, a more robust line of attack on which part erica, that military service part yes. >> it said saying that may not be landing. right. and it may need to be a more robust attack was that the right attack or is there something that would be a better path? >> no, i think the best path is let's get the governor in a van or in a motor home and pennsylvania and let's let people hear about his record. i am all about the substance, about the issues. let's let him defend some of the policies he took and positions he took in and in minnesota, which a lot of people in pennsylvania are going to view extreme that sounded abortion law, which is pretty unfettered. and up to the ninth month in abortion on demand kind of, quote, unquote, he signed laws that provide illegal immigrants with driver's license educational benefits, health care benefits, which some people may see team extreme. he has a position that he'll have to defend and i think that more people like david said, he looks at a funkier looking fella, right? he looks lik

. >> david, would you agree with that that this needs to be david urban and more robust? line of attack on which part erica, the military serve as part yes. it said saying that may not be landing. right. and it may need to be a more robust attack. was that the right attack or is there something that would be a better path? >> no i think. the best path is let's get the governor in a van or in a motor home in pennsylvania and let's let people hear about his record. i am all about the substance, about the issues. let's let him defend some of the policies he took in positions he took in in in minnesota, which a lot of people in pennsylvania are gonna view extreme the cited abortion law, which is pretty unfettered and, you know, up to, the ninth month and abortion on demand kind of, quote, unquote, he signed laws that provide illegal immigrants with driver's license educational benefits, health care benefits, which some people may see team extreme. he has a position that it will have to defend and i think that more people like david said, he looks at a bunk, you're looking fel

urban disagreed with him. >> i wonder what you think about who it may give a permission structure to go with harris. yeah that's a good question. >> i'm not sure what calculus democrats are looking at there. i mean nothing against a former congressman. i certainly respect him. i think he's a great guy. but i'm not sure what significant or substantial number of even moderate ours are willing to vote for vice president harris. i can certainly understand the argument of a vote for president biden, but i think for a lot of moderate republicans they may look at vice president harris and say this is a vote to far we've actually seen john king talked to some of those quote-unquote, nikki haley voters and some of them have stated it's one thing to vote for joe. i'm not exactly sure i can vote for the vice president. some may stay home some may cross back over and vote for trump this time around. i mean, i'm looking at a place like pennsylvania we're republicans are doing a whole lot of work of registering new voters or voters who are low propensity voters. alizarin county, one county that tr