debbie barnett, who has now left still ha, according to the foreign ministry spokesman was met with the prime minister of content as well. and it gyptian delegates who are also here. he said, my john, sorry, that contact remains cautiously optimistic about a cease fire and wound again against. and he's really military operation on rough i in southern gaza, which he said could west in the humanitarian situation in gaza and have a negative impact on the ongoing si size. let's speak to mama. sure. kindly about all this, he is here in the professor of conflict resolution and diplomacy at george mason university. thank you very much for being with us. nice to share cali. so in direct talks between the head of most side and how mosse, hearing doha, with kata serving as an intermediary. we also heard that the technical teams are still meeting here in de la. what does that suggest to you? what does it indicate as far as any progress being made on this sci fi deal? a worthless and a sweet, and saw a situation in terms of all the folks, not a problem, it's been on the one hand, it is still a splu