the breakup would allow the dendy to split into several companies -- the dendy - vivendi to split but has been surging. ed: we will continue that conversation with our correspondent in paris. let's start with the basic premise of what is happening here. >> a very unexpected move announced at night yesterday that they would break up or explore the breaking up of his company in three different units. that would be one unit for pay-tv, a sort of netflix like streaming service across europe. another group would be avas which is an ad group valued between two and 3 billion euros but it's much smaller than its peers. that would be a standalone company as well. there would be a third company, investment company holding the shares of value groups vivendi group has. they have the third biggest publishing company in the world. a complete split of the group and this will be explored now. caroline: maybe he thinks about selling a stake in telecom italia. paint the picture of this leader for us. the ceo almost doesn't get a mention here. this is sort of a rupert murdoch figure of france. >> yes, w