we're back with denver riggleman and sebastian junger.> yes, the menu see on the rooftop, they believe they're providing security for a volatile situation. and rhodes is leading them. and, again, don't be fooled by the eye patch and the beard. rhodes was not in combat. he did not lose his eye in combat. this is performance, right? i mean, this is a sort of, like, demonstration of something that actually isn't real. but they're playing these roles -- they're sort of playing soldier again. except, they're doing it in a situation where our democracy at stake. like the democracy. >> literally. >> literally, the democracy is at stake. and they're a threat to it, my father grew up in spain. and he and his family fled in 1936, when he came in, he was a fascist. the way he took over, the conservatives in spain lost the said that proves it was stolen, the fact that the conservatives lost, proves it was stolen. then he summoned the disgruntled veterans from a failed 20-year war in morocco and summoned them and said, your nation needs you at home no