zhmailo, co-founder, so executive director of the ukrainian center for security and cooperation, goodlth. mr. dmitry, thank you for finding time for us, well , look, we are all looking east, looking at donetsk region, at donbas, at kharkiv region, and it seems that the offensive in kharkiv region has failed, but you know, this is what i think, somewhere one, somewhere two, somewhere three, somewhere 4 km, they covered, well, if it continues like this, then what we will do further, whether it is possible to beat these 1, 2, 3, 4 km. let these 1 2 3 4 km remain like that, because well, yes, okay, well, they did not pass for 10, 20, 30, but still, you know, this is our ukrainian land, i am like any ukrainian for i am ready to gnaw the land beyond the limit, that's why i don't want to give even one centimeter of ukrainian land, what are we going to do with this land, which, after all, they grabbed in a month and a half, mr. mykola, i... i completely agree with you , it hurts me as well, but we must understand that the military logic of building defensive lines is slightly different, of co