doerte, can europe catch up with china?east have a third of our capacity produced by ourselves by 2030 if you make it right. and i do not think we need to reach an attack situation of 100% made in europe. that would be the end of any trade. it's not about that, but we could then start... we had very good, we had a much better situation of negotiating real climate issues with china in the years around the 2008, 2010, and then it became a confrontational issue. and if we have more power in saying we are capable and we can leapfrog again in having the best technology, why not? we have good engineers in europe, as well. then we can start renegotiating and helping china also to... ..also to ease their subsidy situation, in a way, and find their own market in china, further. they do a lot. well, on that point, doerte fouquet, the boss of the european renewable energies federation, great to see you again and thanks for your time. thank you so much. bye— bye. well, my next guest runs europe's leading solar marketplace, 0tovo. so, t