john environment as donna lena bab bulk has visited odessa. she met with who are you kidding and count about the need to coolly but together they visited the orthodox transfiguration cathedral, which a russian may sound severely damaged last summer. its bandbox, 6 foot to ukraine since the beginning of the war and dw comedy that you might talk to general wesley clark. nato's form is supreme allied commander in europe. he says, western countries need to admitted them. and note on the ukraine, who's aboard with russia. we're sending you with a general clark. thank you so much for this interview with the w. m. tell us you have over seen you have with miss so many conflicts. and during the past years, where do you see ukraine now? what did they need strategically? so they need more of material starting with our tory ammunition, but they also need time. they need training, they need to build their forces, develop their leadership. they need the support of the west politically, economically. militarily. they of course, also need of 16 and also a tow