pogorilskaya, the country's largest specialist in babel, is telling our wonderful interlocutors who listening to us and watching. but still, about isaac immanuilovich himself, that’s how much of him the biography was non-literary, correlated with the literary one, because he studied at commercial educational institutions three times, yes, at first. at the nikolaev commercial institute, school, school, commercial school, of course, yes, named after sergei vittai, and then in odessa, yes, nicholas i then at the kiev commercial institute, where he finds himself in the midst of all sorts of events, the murder of stalypin, akhmatov there , at this time in kiev, i mean, yes, well, how are bellis’s affairs, bellis’s affairs, of course, at the same time. school, let me remind you that the moscow commercial alexey remizov also graduated from the school, yes, probably, as if in that period, that is, not , probably, for sure, in that period there was no professional education for writers, yes, this arose later, and well, it seems to me that babel, as he wrote, really, himself, he... he thought