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i address this with elie honig earlier in the program. will donald trump face any criminal the trial before election day? up ahead, in florida, the head of the state gop sand his wife who co-authored the parents bill of rights, were exposed to being in a three-way arrange mment th accused christian of having separately raped her. will the ongoing scandal force ron desantis to remove his ally from the school board? and you want to remind you when you vote on the poll question. sign up for the news letter. you'll find content from award-winning cartoonists. how about this from steve breen. poison ivy, it's titled. i'm a little anxious, i'm a little excited. i'm gonna be emotional, she's gonna be emotional, but it's gonna be so worth it. i love that i can give back to one of our customers. i hope you enjoy these amazing gifts. oh my goodness. oh, you guys. i know you like wrestling, so we got you some vip tickets. you have made an impact. so have you. for you guys to be out here doing something like this, it restores a lot of faith in humani
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robert ray, thank you, elie honig, thank you. i'll see you sooner on this other breaking news about rudy giuliani whose financial troubles just got worse tonight. >>> also up next what colorado voters are telling gary tuchman about the ballot ruling. >>> and the newest threat from iceland still erupting and still a dangerous volcano just ahead on "360." . >>> at the top of the program you heard president biden rule in that the former president is an insurrectionist. before the break, our legal panel had plenty to say. and right now, what a group of colorado voters make of all of this. our gary tuchman did the asking. >> reporter: this coffee shop in colorado goes by the simple name of coffee. and it's here we have a simple question for customers. tell me your gut feeling. do you think it's a good thing the colorado supreme court did that or not a good thing? >> you know, i'm not the biggest fan of trump, but i don't think people should be taken off the ballot necessarily. >> this man is a political independent in a very republica
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also with us, cnn senior legal analyst former federal prosecutor elie honig. great to see you both. robert, i will start with you. you are highly critical of the colorado supreme court decision, you pointed out that section three of the 14th amendment doesn't mention the presidency. but the following question is, what would be the logic of the amendment prohibiting all others insurrectionists from holding office but not the presidency? >> because the presidency is unique. it is uniquely dealt with in other places in the constitution. chief justice roberts has already spoken to the question of whether an officer of the united states is limited to just appointed officials as opposed to all officials under our united states government. the answer is, it is limited to appointed officials, generally speaking, and that's for some reason to vary from that. that is if you want to cover, for example, members of congress, the constitution explicitly says so. and if you want to cover the president or the vice president through the knighted states in other places of the constitution, you say so
also with us, cnn senior legal analyst former federal prosecutor elie honig. great to see you both. robert, i will start with you. you are highly critical of the colorado supreme court decision, you pointed out that section three of the 14th amendment doesn't mention the presidency. but the following question is, what would be the logic of the amendment prohibiting all others insurrectionists from holding office but not the presidency? >> because the presidency is unique. it is uniquely...
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. >> let's bring in cnn senior legal analyst and attorney for the district of new york, elie honig. this has gotten a lot of attention after being an op-ed thing. the 14th amendment, what are we talking about? >> it's a great point. if people are concerned about how quickly this is unfolding, you're not alone. this is new territory, legally, constitutionally. there's important things. we know that they guide us. let's start, as you said, with the 14th amendment itself. no person shall hold office who shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. it gets more complicated how does this work? section 5, the 14th amendment tells us that congress. congress shall have power to enforce by appropriate legislation, provisions of this article. this was ratified in 1868, after the civil war. the two big questions we have here. who decides? does it have to be the u.s. congress passing laws? and the only law they passed in the wake of this, was a criminal law. saying anyone who engages in insurrection is barred from holding office. who decides? t
. >> let's bring in cnn senior legal analyst and attorney for the district of new york, elie honig. this has gotten a lot of attention after being an op-ed thing. the 14th amendment, what are we talking about? >> it's a great point. if people are concerned about how quickly this is unfolding, you're not alone. this is new territory, legally, constitutionally. there's important things. we know that they guide us. let's start, as you said, with the 14th amendment itself. no person...
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elie honig, we keep talking with the u.s. supreme court weighing in. one of the big questions is weighing in on what? do you expect the supreme court to say, donald trump engaged in or denying gagen insurrection? >> no. i do think the supreme court is going to take this case. i think tonight's ruling makes it even more likely because now as kaitlan just showed, we have a split. the majority of state secretary of state until courts have rejected this. but, snow we have to, that have done this. i think the supreme court is going to take the case. they're not going to get into whether he engaged in insurrection, they're going to take on two questions. one, is this solely for congress or can the states do this as we saw in colorado and maine? if the states can do, it did they have fared due process. were the hearings the quasi-trials where they enough to process? and, was it not an advance? part of the process is you have to know the processes in advance or they just sort of make it up after the fact and apply it retroactively. so, i do think this all but
elie honig, we keep talking with the u.s. supreme court weighing in. one of the big questions is weighing in on what? do you expect the supreme court to say, donald trump engaged in or denying gagen insurrection? >> no. i do think the supreme court is going to take this case. i think tonight's ruling makes it even more likely because now as kaitlan just showed, we have a split. the majority of state secretary of state until courts have rejected this. but, snow we have to, that have done...
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i said for all the reasons i offered earlier with elie honig here i think he should just acknowledge it and say the american people need to know, are they about to vote for a convicted voter? one more. >>> should smerconish reveal he's a closet trump supporter? why? because i cited him in the show? i'm the one who's the most critical but doing it in a way that's presenting both sides. you've got all sides on that, but it's a provocative discussion. >>> still to come, the final poll. smerconish.com is where you need to go. if you subscribe to daily newsletter, it's free. you get cartoons exclusively like this one from rob rogers. nicely d done, rob.. (♪♪) (♪♪) (♪♪) get exclusive offers on select new volvo models. contact your volvo retailer to learn more. >>> okay, so there's the results so far. wow, pretty decisive. 22,614 votes cast. should jack smith acknowledge he wants to try trump before the election. 72% agree saying yeah, just think this is the reason why we are rushing to get this case revolved. it's going back to the supreme court any way. they decided they weren't going to
i said for all the reasons i offered earlier with elie honig here i think he should just acknowledge it and say the american people need to know, are they about to vote for a convicted voter? one more. >>> should smerconish reveal he's a closet trump supporter? why? because i cited him in the show? i'm the one who's the most critical but doing it in a way that's presenting both sides. you've got all sides on that, but it's a provocative discussion. >>> still to come, the final...
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-wise, that's not my area, but he's done that by deciding not to testify. >> elie honig speaking earlier >>> in tennessee at least six people are dead and dozens are injured after multiple tornadoes and strong thunderstorms tore through the state. one tornado hit madison and nearby hendersonville with peak winds of $140 mile an hour according to a preliminary survey by the weather service. and another tornado, over an 11-mile path, where officials say nearly 100 military families lost their homes. cnn rafael romo has more on the recovery efforts. >> reporter: what we've been able to see by the devastation caused by the 13 tornadoes in tennessee, offices of emergency management said that's how many tornados were spotted here on saturday. and what i can tell you is that in his particular neighbhborhoo here in madison and the north side of nashville, many homes are a total loss. there are many downed power lines and trees, total devastation here. authorities say 22 structures have collapsed. and governor bill lee has declared a state of emergency. i was talking to a gentleman who lives here
-wise, that's not my area, but he's done that by deciding not to testify. >> elie honig speaking earlier >>> in tennessee at least six people are dead and dozens are injured after multiple tornadoes and strong thunderstorms tore through the state. one tornado hit madison and nearby hendersonville with peak winds of $140 mile an hour according to a preliminary survey by the weather service. and another tornado, over an 11-mile path, where officials say nearly 100 military families...
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. >> let's bring in elie honig. this is a state law. usually the federal government oversees border issues. will this end up going to the supreme court or at least being appealed? >> this is not constitutional. easy answer there. this is day one of constitutional law. issues like immigration, foreign policy, foreign affairs are specifically and only reserved to the federal government. makes sense. imagine if every state could have a different immigration policy, enforce it differently, it would be wild. important to understand the legal question here is nthis a good or bad policy, it is who gets to make it. it is not the states. it will get struck down in the federal courts at this some point. >> but there has to be a case brought. in the meantime, everything that is done under this law in texas is legal technically? >> here is what i expect to see happen. doj in all likelihood will go into court and challenge this. you also have to have someone who has standing here. doj will i believe go into federal courts at some point soon and ask
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joining us now with more, cnn senior legal analyst elie honig. elie, you never cower. that's why we like you here at cnn. but it sounds like trump is backing down from fighting this out on the witness stand. what do you think? >> yeah, jim. this is the smart move, or i guess i should say the least self-destructive move for a couple reasons. first of all, as zach just said, trump has already lost a piece of this case. the judge has already ruled against donald trump for the a.g. on one of the causes of action. it's not as if donald trump's testimony was going to get the judge to reverse himself. the other thing is donald trump already testified in this case. he was called to the stand as one of the a.g.'s witnesses. that did not go well for donald trump. his testimony was all over the map, was nonresponsive, as timed was self-contradictory. so looking at this from a lawyer's point of view, there is no reason for him to get up on the stand. politics and p.r.-wise, that's not my area. but legally here he's done the least dangerous thing by deciding not to testify. >> one
joining us now with more, cnn senior legal analyst elie honig. elie, you never cower. that's why we like you here at cnn. but it sounds like trump is backing down from fighting this out on the witness stand. what do you think? >> yeah, jim. this is the smart move, or i guess i should say the least self-destructive move for a couple reasons. first of all, as zach just said, trump has already lost a piece of this case. the judge has already ruled against donald trump for the a.g. on one of...
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joining us now is cnn senior legal analyst elie honig.e, how significant is this testimony from trump's own attorney? >> pam, it's just straight up bad news for donald trump any way you look at this. this is testimony from his own former attorney that goes right to the heart of the obstruction charge in the mar-a-lago documents case, a case which by the way i already thought had the strongest evidence of any of the four cases against donald trump. now you add this on top of it. this attorney's testimony goes right to obstruction of justice. i told we have a subpoena, i told him you have to obey it, i told him if you don't, it's a crime, and he said he understood. you lay that out for a jury. she's not somebody who has an ax to grind with donald trump. she hasn't had a falling out with him n. fact, she's still his lawyer in another case. it's going to be hard to attack her testimony. her testimony is going to go to the heart of the issues. >> right. and people might be thinking at home, hold on, she's his attorney, why is she testifying ab
joining us now is cnn senior legal analyst elie honig.e, how significant is this testimony from trump's own attorney? >> pam, it's just straight up bad news for donald trump any way you look at this. this is testimony from his own former attorney that goes right to the heart of the obstruction charge in the mar-a-lago documents case, a case which by the way i already thought had the strongest evidence of any of the four cases against donald trump. now you add this on top of it. this...
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now, for more on breakig this down, senior legal analyst elie honig is here.is just remarkable to think that the president's son could be on trial next year for two separate matters, as his dad's run for reelection. >> and the stakes are much higher now than that were before on the tax counts out of california. the original near deal they had, that fell apart, only would have charged hunter biden with failure to pay his taxes, which is a misdemeanor. now we are into felonies. because of evasion and fraud. and the differences, if you owe taxes but you intentionally don't, just a misdemeanor, not going to chill in all likelihood. if you are convicted of a felony, because as this indictment alleges, there was specific fraud -- hunter biden took steps to fool tax collectors. now you're into felony territory. it's much more serious. if it gets convicted here, the guidelines would recommend a prison sentence of some nature. >> you are looking through this, they break down on the one page summary of the expenses, they look at his bank account. one of them if it was r
now, for more on breakig this down, senior legal analyst elie honig is here.is just remarkable to think that the president's son could be on trial next year for two separate matters, as his dad's run for reelection. >> and the stakes are much higher now than that were before on the tax counts out of california. the original near deal they had, that fell apart, only would have charged hunter biden with failure to pay his taxes, which is a misdemeanor. now we are into felonies. because of...
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for more, cnn's former federal prosecutor and legal analyst elie honig is here. elie, this is remarkable to think that the president's son could be on trial next year for two separate matters, as his dad is running for re-election. >> and the stakes are much higher with this new indictment than they were before, on the tax counts out of california. the original deal or near-deal they had to that evan just alluded to that fell apart only would charge hunter biden with paying his taxes, which is a misdemeanor. now we're into felonies -- three felonies -- because of evasion and fraud. if you owe taxes and don't pay, you're not going to go to jail. if you're convicted of felony because as this indictment alleges, they allege hunter biden intentionally took steps to fool tax collectors. now you're into felony territory. it's much more serious. if he gets convicted here, the guidelines will recommend a prison sentence of some nature. >> you were looking through this. they break down on the one pages the expenses. they look at his bank accounts. one of them that evan wa
for more, cnn's former federal prosecutor and legal analyst elie honig is here. elie, this is remarkable to think that the president's son could be on trial next year for two separate matters, as his dad is running for re-election. >> and the stakes are much higher with this new indictment than they were before, on the tax counts out of california. the original deal or near-deal they had to that evan just alluded to that fell apart only would charge hunter biden with paying his taxes,...
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>> with us now cnn senior legal analyst elie honig. hunter biden now faces felony tax charges.e had a plea deal in place for misdemeanor tax charges. if you are attorneys for hunter biden, how much are you just kicking yourself that this plea deal fell apart? >> if i'm hunter biden's attorney i am wishing i could go back in time and solidify that deal and make it go through. it was such a better deal for hunter biden. let's remember, though, hunter biden's team wanted the deal then, it turned out they didn't have a full agreement with doj as to all the terms, but the deal that hunter biden was minutes away from pleading to would have been two misdemeanors and a probation sentence, that's it. now he's looking at nine charges, three of them felonies, several which carry likely jail time, maximum sentences of five and three years for those felonies. it's gotten way worse for hunter biden and to think back how close they were to having this thing wrapped up a few months ago, now it's completely turned. >> to be clear these new charges aren't just you didn't pay taxes. >> right. >>
>> with us now cnn senior legal analyst elie honig. hunter biden now faces felony tax charges.e had a plea deal in place for misdemeanor tax charges. if you are attorneys for hunter biden, how much are you just kicking yourself that this plea deal fell apart? >> if i'm hunter biden's attorney i am wishing i could go back in time and solidify that deal and make it go through. it was such a better deal for hunter biden. let's remember, though, hunter biden's team wanted the deal then,...
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back with us now, errol louis, leah wright and elie honig. fact that these offers and calls from trump and a former employee who is not named, aftered after the search but before the charges, is that relevant here? >> it is. this is one of those issues, common sense people all understand what was happening here. they were trying to make sure this employee stayed loyal. trying to make sure this employee didn't flip on them. i'm not sure the evidence that was unusual enough that, a, a judge would admit it and, b, you could make that argument to the jury. yeah, that it's witness tampering. to me alone this does not make out witness tampering. okay you called someone who left their job. let them know the job is still open. offered to take someone to a golf tournament. however, it might fit into a broader pattern we've seen here. we have already seen charges of obstruction and then obstruction upon obstruction in this case relating to hiding the boxes, tampering with the video surveillance, trying to tamper with the witnesses. >> it's fascinating
back with us now, errol louis, leah wright and elie honig. fact that these offers and calls from trump and a former employee who is not named, aftered after the search but before the charges, is that relevant here? >> it is. this is one of those issues, common sense people all understand what was happening here. they were trying to make sure this employee stayed loyal. trying to make sure this employee didn't flip on them. i'm not sure the evidence that was unusual enough that, a, a judge...
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. >>> let's bring in elie honig. good morning to you.etter that rosa was talking about that joaquin castro and others wrote it is preemptive to federal law and will result in racial profiling. the federal law is also upheld by the supreme court that said a decade plus ago, you can't do this, states. you have to defer to the federal government on immigration. >> this law by texas is a stunt. i'll try to put it straight forwardly. it is a bedrock principle of our system that immigration, foreign policy are the province of the federal government not the states. we would have chaos if all the states were enforcing their own imgreat lmigration laws. arizona versus united states, one of the legislatures referred to it there. well, this is different but he didn't explain how. it's not different. this is going to be put on pause by the federal courts and ultimately struck down by federal courts. >> can i push back on that though. phil and i were talking earlier about the fact that part of the intent may also be to get it to go to the supreme cou
. >>> let's bring in elie honig. good morning to you.etter that rosa was talking about that joaquin castro and others wrote it is preemptive to federal law and will result in racial profiling. the federal law is also upheld by the supreme court that said a decade plus ago, you can't do this, states. you have to defer to the federal government on immigration. >> this law by texas is a stunt. i'll try to put it straight forwardly. it is a bedrock principle of our system that...
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. >>> let's dive straight in with cnn senior legal analyst elie honig.'s start with the argument trump's legal team was making here. explain it. >> let's talk immunity. this is really interesting, trust me. and it's about to get really, really important. so there are some things we do know and some things we don't know. let's start with what to we do know. there is such a thing as what we call civil immunity. a federal official or former federal official cannot be sued civilly for anything that falls within the scope of the job. we actually got that from a decision back in 1982 involving richard nixon. nothing to do with watergate. basically a former federal official had been fired during the nixon administration. sues richard nixon and the supreme court says you can't sue him. that's part of the job as president, that's within the scope of working in the white house. now, here is what we don't know but we're going to find out very soon. first of all, criminal immunity. i put that question mark there on purpose. we don't know whether there is such thing
. >>> let's dive straight in with cnn senior legal analyst elie honig.'s start with the argument trump's legal team was making here. explain it. >> let's talk immunity. this is really interesting, trust me. and it's about to get really, really important. so there are some things we do know and some things we don't know. let's start with what to we do know. there is such a thing as what we call civil immunity. a federal official or former federal official cannot be sued civilly...
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i want to break all of this down, as we wait for what the jury does decide, with elie honig, cnn's senioregal analyst and former district attorney for the southern district of new york, and andrew -- who covered rudy giuliani extensively for decades, author of "giuliani: the rise and tragic fall of america's mayor," something we've been following closely on the show. what do you make of giuliani insisting he was going to testify and pulling out at the last minute. >> the smartest move in years. imagine the catastrophe that would have been. this case is what happens when you combine vicious, over-the-top defamation against innocent victims with the single worst legal strategy ever devised by a human mind. let's go through the way rudy and his lawyer approached the case. they agreed they were liable, rudy was liable. yes, what he did was defamatory. there may be a strategy if your strategy is we're just going to minimize damages. we're going to go in there, rudy is going to express remorse, i got caught up in something stupid, i didn't mean my words to have that effect, i'm sorry. maybe you
i want to break all of this down, as we wait for what the jury does decide, with elie honig, cnn's senioregal analyst and former district attorney for the southern district of new york, and andrew -- who covered rudy giuliani extensively for decades, author of "giuliani: the rise and tragic fall of america's mayor," something we've been following closely on the show. what do you make of giuliani insisting he was going to testify and pulling out at the last minute. >> the...
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katelyn polantz is back with us along with elie honig and cnn political commentator mia love. elie, it was an interesting discussion and an interesting take from the maine secretary of state here. the 14th amendment section 3 says in plain text that if you shall have engaged in insurrection, you can't be in office. she takes that to mean that if she determines that donald trump engaged in insurrection, he can't be on the maine primary ballot. is it that simple? >> no, it's not that simple. clearly section 3 of the 14th amendment says engage in insurrection, you're out. we all have that. the complicated part and where we're going to see this out in the courts is who gets to decide and by what process. now it's important to note and in the ruling the secretary of state we just heard from says she's basically following the same legal reasoning as the colorado supreme court did last week, and she says in her ruling, if this gets struck down in colorado, we're out of luck too. so she is basing it on the same legal argument. let me sort of lay out the arguments both sides. and by th
katelyn polantz is back with us along with elie honig and cnn political commentator mia love. elie, it was an interesting discussion and an interesting take from the maine secretary of state here. the 14th amendment section 3 says in plain text that if you shall have engaged in insurrection, you can't be in office. she takes that to mean that if she determines that donald trump engaged in insurrection, he can't be on the maine primary ballot. is it that simple? >> no, it's not that...
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attorney elie honig who is here on set with me. elie, it's hard to talk about where we are in the sense of we know that the trump team is going to appeal and this will get to what their decisions are going to be in their arguments here. but this is something we have never seen before. >> this is historic in every sense. this is something we have never seen before, and not even close. let's get our minds about what the consequences are. if this stands, and there's a legitimate question about if it will, if this stands, it means that millions of voters would go to the ballot, the voting booth in november in colorado, and they would have only one major party to vote for, joe biden, that's it. that's the consequences here. and >> if donald trump if that republican nominee. >> if don trump is that republican omni, which he's leading. and other states, there are dozens of pending lawsuits. we will talk about which ones are gonna dictate the outcomes. but other states are going to encourage other litigations, other plaintiffs in other sta
attorney elie honig who is here on set with me. elie, it's hard to talk about where we are in the sense of we know that the trump team is going to appeal and this will get to what their decisions are going to be in their arguments here. but this is something we have never seen before. >> this is historic in every sense. this is something we have never seen before, and not even close. let's get our minds about what the consequences are. if this stands, and there's a legitimate question...
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here tonight, cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor elie honig. also with us, conservative lawyer and contributor for the atlantic, george conway. elie, let me start with you. this is obviously a win for trump, but can you walk us through how the michigan supreme court comes to this decision when we saw a very different decision, still 4-3 from the colorado -- >> first of, all this is chaos. we see different states, seemingly every few days, coming to different resolutions based on different criteria. but if i had to unify what happened, and how we get one resolution and michigan the other in colorado, the answer is that in colorado, there's this pre-existing legal procedure that you can use to challenge someone's qualifications for the ballot. so they had this mini hearing, took five days, back in october in november, and the colorado supreme court said, get enough. in michigan, there is no comparable proceeding. so the michigan supreme court today essentially said, we don't have a way to do this in this state. my general criticism complaint abou
here tonight, cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor elie honig. also with us, conservative lawyer and contributor for the atlantic, george conway. elie, let me start with you. this is obviously a win for trump, but can you walk us through how the michigan supreme court comes to this decision when we saw a very different decision, still 4-3 from the colorado -- >> first of, all this is chaos. we see different states, seemingly every few days, coming to different resolutions based...
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honig.ow what we saw and heard fra donald trump going in, and it is telling, and why is donald trump saying that he won the case, when we know that he lost a portion of it, a found liable of fraud even before this trial began? >> yes, so the first things first, kate. we heard him say over and over again, we have already won this case, and this is false. he has not already won this case, and to the contrary, he has lost a portion of the case. the judge even before the trial started ruled for the attorney general, and against donald trump on one of the causes of action here. now, what donald trump appears to have been refer to, and he kept talking about this appellant division ruling, and there was a ruling by the appellant court before this trial started about ivanka trump, originally ivanka trump was named as a defendant, but they said no, she is out of the case, because the allegations are too old, and they fall outside of the statute of limitation, and that is my best attempt to decipher w
honig.ow what we saw and heard fra donald trump going in, and it is telling, and why is donald trump saying that he won the case, when we know that he lost a portion of it, a found liable of fraud even before this trial began? >> yes, so the first things first, kate. we heard him say over and over again, we have already won this case, and this is false. he has not already won this case, and to the contrary, he has lost a portion of the case. the judge even before the trial started ruled...
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cnn's paula reid is joining us as well as cnn legal analyst elie honig. what did the supreme court decide? >> kate, we have been waiting for this decision for some time, and here the court holding that former president donald trump does not have immunity from the civil suits connected to the actions of january 6th. it does not mean that he is liable for the actions of january 6th. what it means is that the capital police officers and others who are trying to sue trump related to january 6th, they will get a day in court, and litigate the claims. the former president has said that the suits cannot be brought, and you are arguing that the actions brought that day were all part of the official duties as president, and officials from the president on down enjoy immunity, and the court drew a line around that, and said this is not in the official capacities as president, and this is more in the lines of the campaign. and therefore you are not immune from the charges. so he will go to trial in washington, d.c., for election subversion, and it is suspected that
cnn's paula reid is joining us as well as cnn legal analyst elie honig. what did the supreme court decide? >> kate, we have been waiting for this decision for some time, and here the court holding that former president donald trump does not have immunity from the civil suits connected to the actions of january 6th. it does not mean that he is liable for the actions of january 6th. what it means is that the capital police officers and others who are trying to sue trump related to january...
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join me tonight, cnn senior legal analyst and former federal prosecutor elie honig, and to georgia officialsestified before the fulton county grand jury. former state senator -- former lieutenant governor jeff duncan. elie, let me start with you. it seems like the very clear message that we're getting is overturning the election is not part of anyone's official duties. >> breaking news. what's so -- we're seeing the law develop. we knew a lot of folks, including donald trump, we're gonna make just this argument. -- i'm entitled to be tried in federal court, and the next step, which is a half-start removed from that, therefore, my case should be dismissed on community grounds. we didn't know how it was gonna come up. you've seen mark meadows today, donald trump in other contexts, about a half dozen folks in awe, make those arguments, and they've been uniformly rejected. they are batting point 000. those rejections have come from state judges, federal judges, and conservative judges, for middle of the road, liberal judges. we're starting to see a real consensus emerged that rejects this propos
join me tonight, cnn senior legal analyst and former federal prosecutor elie honig, and to georgia officialsestified before the fulton county grand jury. former state senator -- former lieutenant governor jeff duncan. elie, let me start with you. it seems like the very clear message that we're getting is overturning the election is not part of anyone's official duties. >> breaking news. what's so -- we're seeing the law develop. we knew a lot of folks, including donald trump, we're gonna...
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. >> cnn's legal analyst elie honig explains what is at stake with giuliani's bankruptcy claim. >> by declaring bankruptcy, rudy giuliani has now voluntarily put himself within the jurisdiction of a federal bankruptcy judge and a trustee. their job is to identified his assets, to value them fairly and then dole them out prop proport proportionately. so ruby freeman and shaye moss will get some money, but important to know if rudy giuliani tries to play games, if he commits fraud or tries to dump off his assets, he is subjecting himself to potential bankruptcy fraud. >>> we're hoping to learn more details about a deadly shooting rampage the in czech republic in about an hour. they say a gunman killed at least 14 people at the city's university and left 25 others wounded. officials now say three of the wounded victims were foreign citizens. the suspect later took his own life it is believed. police are still looking into his motive and they haven't released his name yet. saturday will be a day of mourning in the czech republic and the prime minister tried to convey the shock his nation
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here tonight, cnn senior legal analyst, eli honig, also with us, george conway.li, let me start with you. this michigan ruling is a win for trump. can you walk us through how the michigan supreme court comes to this decision when we saw a different decision, a 4-3 one from the colorado supreme court last week? >> this is chaos. we see different states every few days s comes to different answers. in colorado, there's this pre-existing legal procedure that you can use to challenge someone's qualifications for the ballot. they had a hearing in october and november. the colorado supreme court said, good enough. in michigan, there is no comparable proceeding. the michigan supreme court today essentially said, we don't have a way to do this. my general criticism, complaint about this 14th amendment effort is, i don't believe it's up to the states at all. the 14th amendment is clear on its face that it's up to congress to tell us how this works. they have not delegated that. >> there's no gray area? >> no. this is no go. the only way to do it is based on congress. the a
here tonight, cnn senior legal analyst, eli honig, also with us, george conway.li, let me start with you. this michigan ruling is a win for trump. can you walk us through how the michigan supreme court comes to this decision when we saw a different decision, a 4-3 one from the colorado supreme court last week? >> this is chaos. we see different states every few days s comes to different answers. in colorado, there's this pre-existing legal procedure that you can use to challenge someone's...
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elie honig, how long could it take for the appeals process to play out and what are the chances it begins in march as scheduled? >> wolf, i think this makes it highly unlikely that the march 4th, 2024 trial date holds. here's why. judge chutkan has ruled correctly that i can't do anything while this immunity issue is making its way through the appeals courts. if we think about how long that could take, even if this goes at the fastest pace, even if the supreme court grants direct review, even if they expedite it, we're looking at a final decision from the supreme court i think at the earliest in february. and you can't come back from that then restart and deal with all the complicated issues that you have to deal with. pretrial discovery, pretrial motions in february then start a trial three weeks later on march 4th. i think as a practical matter, this is going to require the judge to move the date back. >> gloria borger, trump's attorneys are arguing against an expedited appeals process writing, i'm quoting, this proposed schedule would require tones around support staff to work around t
elie honig, how long could it take for the appeals process to play out and what are the chances it begins in march as scheduled? >> wolf, i think this makes it highly unlikely that the march 4th, 2024 trial date holds. here's why. judge chutkan has ruled correctly that i can't do anything while this immunity issue is making its way through the appeals courts. if we think about how long that could take, even if this goes at the fastest pace, even if the supreme court grants direct review,...
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elie honig is joining us. we're a couple days away from january.hat does that month look like for trump? >> let's enjoy these quiet few days because when january hits, look out. let's start with the first item which is the federal criminal case related to the election subversion. trump claims that he is immune because conduct was with to do with his official job as president. now, trump lost that argument here at the trial court level, district court. jack smith wanted the supreme court to take the case directory. but in a somewhat surprising ruling, the supreme court said no, you have to go through the normal channels meaning next stop is the court of appeals. and then potentially the u.s. supreme court. good news for jack smith, court of appeals has ordered a mega expedited schedule. the arguments have tuesday january 9. i think it is very likely that the court of appeals will rule by the end of january. but then donald trump can ask for what is called a review. and then he can ask the supreme court to take the case and that takes month. trial da
elie honig is joining us. we're a couple days away from january.hat does that month look like for trump? >> let's enjoy these quiet few days because when january hits, look out. let's start with the first item which is the federal criminal case related to the election subversion. trump claims that he is immune because conduct was with to do with his official job as president. now, trump lost that argument here at the trial court level, district court. jack smith wanted the supreme court...
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joining us now, elie honig and andrew curtisman.ndrew, what's going through your mind right now seeing rudy giuliani now filing officially for bankruptcy? >> well, it's a catastrophe and you know, when i'm thinking about this is that it's, this, the rise and fall of giuliani is not just a political rise and fall. it's a financial rise and fall as well. after 9/11, he opened up a consulting company that made $100 million in five years. he personally was worth $50 million. his ex-wife, judith nathan told me they were spending $250,000 a month on sheer fun. his lifestyle was beyond lavish. fast forward now. most of the money he has lost has happened since he aligned himself with donald trump in 2016. it was because of his loyalty to trump and the lengths that giuliani went to to retain donald trump in office that he finds himself in this predicament. his catastrophic fall is in many ways due to his alignment with donald trump. >> how do you think this process will actually wind up being played out for giuliani and those he owes? especi
joining us now, elie honig and andrew curtisman.ndrew, what's going through your mind right now seeing rudy giuliani now filing officially for bankruptcy? >> well, it's a catastrophe and you know, when i'm thinking about this is that it's, this, the rise and fall of giuliani is not just a political rise and fall. it's a financial rise and fall as well. after 9/11, he opened up a consulting company that made $100 million in five years. he personally was worth $50 million. his ex-wife,...
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honig, and i have a question about the immunity question, jack smith asking the supreme court to step in with the trump team to file the response saying that they don't want the court to get involved, but now, trump's team writing, the special counsel never writes why this is the only appropriate timetable for this historic prosecution, and the legal team also says this date has no talismanic significance and the matter should be resolved in a cautious and deliberative manner and not break-neck speed. what is the trump team's argument? >> i think it is effective argument here, because it is about timing. jack smith won the immunity, and donald trump lost. and the district court said, you are not immune, trump. and now, jack smith is saying, rather than the normal way, the intermediate court of appeals, and this is unusual but he says, no, skip the middle layer and go right to the top. the problem for jack smith is that you have to have a specific reason for it, and he will not say because of the election, because he won't say it. >> why not? >> he believes that he understands that wou
honig, and i have a question about the immunity question, jack smith asking the supreme court to step in with the trump team to file the response saying that they don't want the court to get involved, but now, trump's team writing, the special counsel never writes why this is the only appropriate timetable for this historic prosecution, and the legal team also says this date has no talismanic significance and the matter should be resolved in a cautious and deliberative manner and not break-neck...
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clawing an attorney is sometimes an indication of guilt as i learned from elie honig, i have learned.nd now, for r rona mcdaniel is the chair of the rnc and what is her camp responding to? >> well, she is saying that she wanted an audit and nothing to interfere. and this is a statement from steven chung the top spokesman for the trump campaign. all of the trump actions were taken in furtherance as duty of president of the united states to faithfully take care of the laws and ensure election integrity, but look, sara, trying to overturn an election, that not election integrity. >> correct, since it has been proven time and again by courts and everyone else that the votes were what they were, and joe biden won the 2020 election. marshall cohen, thank you for all of your great reporting throughout, and there have been so many things dug up, and thank you to "the detroit news" for the exclusive today. thank you. >>> and with all of this we have matt lewis from the "daily beast" and also the former communications director for ted cruz alice stewart. so alice, coming off of what marshall la
clawing an attorney is sometimes an indication of guilt as i learned from elie honig, i have learned.nd now, for r rona mcdaniel is the chair of the rnc and what is her camp responding to? >> well, she is saying that she wanted an audit and nothing to interfere. and this is a statement from steven chung the top spokesman for the trump campaign. all of the trump actions were taken in furtherance as duty of president of the united states to faithfully take care of the laws and ensure...
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elie honig, you said an august 2024 trial date is totally unrealistic.hat do you see as the most likely outcome here. >> yeah, wolf, i stand by that. i think if we do the basic math here and if we look at a proposed trial date in august of 2024, that would mean donald trump is physically required to be in that courtroom, physically pulled off the campaign trail and in august through the general election, september and october and through and during election day and beyond, in november. i just don't see any practical way that a judge allows that to happen. but very important to keep in mind, the other election subversion case, the federal one in d.c., that one is scheduled for trial in march of 2024. i do think that one is very likely to happen. in that time frame. and to be completed before the election. so we will as an american public at least have the resolution afforded by one of the two trials before the election. >> ab gloria borger, how much would the trial and the others already scheduled impact trump's ability to campaign in 2024? what would thi
elie honig, you said an august 2024 trial date is totally unrealistic.hat do you see as the most likely outcome here. >> yeah, wolf, i stand by that. i think if we do the basic math here and if we look at a proposed trial date in august of 2024, that would mean donald trump is physically required to be in that courtroom, physically pulled off the campaign trail and in august through the general election, september and october and through and during election day and beyond, in november. i...
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. >> and elie honig is joining us. let's start with the 14th amendment. what exactly does it say? >> you always start with the text. 14th amendment, ratified in 1868, important part of it is section 3 which tells us that no person shall hold any office who shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion origin aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. seems fairly straightforward. but the question it leaves open, how does this get decided. who gets to decide. if you flip ahead to section five, it tells us that congress should have the power to enforce by appropriate leprovisions. and so the question is do the states have the power. and if they do, are those procedures adequate to protect the due process interests of whoever is at stake. so this has led to a flurry of lawsuits and political efforts to get donald trump thrown off the ballot. >> so secretaries of state are very much in focus right now in multiple states. >> yeah, a lot of the efforts have started with individual state level secretaries of state. today we're watching maine. and important to note these rulings often are p
. >> and elie honig is joining us. let's start with the 14th amendment. what exactly does it say? >> you always start with the text. 14th amendment, ratified in 1868, important part of it is section 3 which tells us that no person shall hold any office who shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion origin aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. seems fairly straightforward. but the question it leaves open, how does this get decided. who gets to decide. if you flip ahead to...
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here with me now is elie honig and chief assistant district attorney karen freedman agnifilo. do you think they'll take this up? >> i do think they will, anderson. this is what we call direct review, meaning jack smith wants skip the court of appeals and go to the supreme court. >> because it's going to go to the supreme court anyway? >> right. why take the many months it would take for the court of appeals to weigh in. we know it's headed for the supreme court. also, if you look back at recent history, this tactic of direct review was almost never done for a long time. however, the court supreme court has done it. i have to credit our supreme court expert -- 19 times since 2019. for example, joe biden's student loan program. they granted this expedited relief. and many others we have not heard of. this case is more important than any of those, and this case has more time pressure than any of those. so, i do think they will take it on this direct review. >> karen, if the court does agree to hear the case, what does the timeline look like, and when do we expect a ruling? >> hop
here with me now is elie honig and chief assistant district attorney karen freedman agnifilo. do you think they'll take this up? >> i do think they will, anderson. this is what we call direct review, meaning jack smith wants skip the court of appeals and go to the supreme court. >> because it's going to go to the supreme court anyway? >> right. why take the many months it would take for the court of appeals to weigh in. we know it's headed for the supreme court. also, if you...
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. >>> and joining us now from the "new york times," michael gold, natasha albert and also elie honig. the colorado republican party, we've been waiting for an appeal. they have done so. how do you think this will turn out? >> as expected we're starting to see appeals to the supreme court. the biggest question is will trump's team going to appeal. i'm not sure the colorado supreme court will have dog in the fight. but i do think that the supreme court has to take this case and i think that the supreme court will reverse the colorado supreme court and rule that donald trump is not disquali disqualified. just yesterday michigan rejected this 14th amendment challenge. so i think we're in an untenable situation if we see 50 different states adopting 50 different procedures and reaching -- of so far the results have been fairly uniform against the 14th amendment with the exception of colorado. but this is screaming for the supreme court to intervene. >> and let's turn to the jack smith filing. the fact that the defendant has wide latitude to defend themselves is not without limits. so what
. >>> and joining us now from the "new york times," michael gold, natasha albert and also elie honig. the colorado republican party, we've been waiting for an appeal. they have done so. how do you think this will turn out? >> as expected we're starting to see appeals to the supreme court. the biggest question is will trump's team going to appeal. i'm not sure the colorado supreme court will have dog in the fight. but i do think that the supreme court has to take this...
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this does not bode well for the new law in texas according to cnn senior legal analyst elie honig.he explains it. >> reporter: no, this is not constitutional. that's the easy answer there. this is day one of constitutional ball. issues like immigration, foreign policy, foreign affairs, are specifically and only reserved to the federal government. it makes sense. imagine if every state could have a different immigration policy and enforce it differently? it would be wild. we have seen similar laws in other border states including arizona that have been struck down within the last decade and change by the supreme court. we saw a case involving arizona in 2012 that went to the supreme court and the supreme court struck down. i think we will see the same result here. >> of course, the court is significantly more conservative now than it was then. the lake justice antonin scalia wrote the dissent in the arizona case with two justices still on the court, alito and thomas, who backed his dissent. he said this, quote, arizona has moved to protect its sovereignty, not in contradiction of fe
this does not bode well for the new law in texas according to cnn senior legal analyst elie honig.he explains it. >> reporter: no, this is not constitutional. that's the easy answer there. this is day one of constitutional ball. issues like immigration, foreign policy, foreign affairs, are specifically and only reserved to the federal government. it makes sense. imagine if every state could have a different immigration policy and enforce it differently? it would be wild. we have seen...
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. >> i want to go to you, elie honig, and we are looking at the pictures of the judge, and the firstime that trump's attorneys have been there in person defending their client. and what they are looking at is if they can look if anything can be thrown out on these ground, and if that is going to be involved with the subversion case along with others? >> yes, sure. the federal case that is happening in washington, d.c., is that everything that he did leading up to the election is that even if they are falsehoods can be protected under the 1st amendment, and they are asking for the judge to throw out the charges. and what he is likely to do when other defendants have had this argument in georgia is that it is premature, and it is an argument to go to trial, and issue to go to the jury potentially and to the judge after the jury. so what we are likely to hear the judge say, i won't rule on whether you win or lose here on the first amendment, but it is an issue for trial. >> thank you, ellie honig and katelyn poelantz. >>> so now we are going back to the vote on capitol hill as to whethe
. >> i want to go to you, elie honig, and we are looking at the pictures of the judge, and the firstime that trump's attorneys have been there in person defending their client. and what they are looking at is if they can look if anything can be thrown out on these ground, and if that is going to be involved with the subversion case along with others? >> yes, sure. the federal case that is happening in washington, d.c., is that everything that he did leading up to the election is...
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first, though, let's go to our senior legal analyst elie honig with more, walk us through this indictment and what stands out to you. >> the stakes are so much higher now for hunter biden. now, you may recall that back in july hunter biden walked into a federal courtroom expecting to plead guilty to two tax misdemeanors with a probation sentence attached. that deal fell apart at the last minute. now let's look at how things have changed. now hunter biden is looking at nine separate charges, tax evasion, tax fraud, and non-payment of taxes and really importantly, these two, there's one count of evasion, two counts of fraud, these are felonies now, much more serious. tax evasion carries a max sentence of five years, fraud carries a max sentence of three years, nobody gets the max but much more serious than before. now, if we look at the indictment, this alleges a scheme covering four years, 2016 through and including 2019. the allegation is that during that time hunter biden made around $7 million in income, primarily from foreign companies in ukraine, and china. doesn't allege that those w
first, though, let's go to our senior legal analyst elie honig with more, walk us through this indictment and what stands out to you. >> the stakes are so much higher now for hunter biden. now, you may recall that back in july hunter biden walked into a federal courtroom expecting to plead guilty to two tax misdemeanors with a probation sentence attached. that deal fell apart at the last minute. now let's look at how things have changed. now hunter biden is looking at nine separate...
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. >> elie honig, jennifer rogers rngs thank you both for that. >>> you heard ruby freeman talking about how her life has changed since being singled out by giuliani. but not just giuliani. former president trump as well. >> i miss my home. i miss my neighbors. and i miss my name. i've heard some of you. don't be sad for me. don't waste your time being angry at those who did this to me and my daughter. we are more than conquerers. pray for us, as we continue to fight the good fight of faith. >> still just amazed by those words from ruby freeman earlier today. i'm joined now by former republican congressman and a member of the former january 6th committee adam kinzinger. congressman, thank you for being here. just a side by side of ruby freeman coming out of court and rudy giuliani coming out of court is about a stark a contrast as it gets. and as you well know from being in washington when donald trump was in office, he often leaves these ruined lives in his wake, including people who have gone to bat for him the most, people who told lie after lie after lie for him, like rudy giuliani.
. >> elie honig, jennifer rogers rngs thank you both for that. >>> you heard ruby freeman talking about how her life has changed since being singled out by giuliani. but not just giuliani. former president trump as well. >> i miss my home. i miss my neighbors. and i miss my name. i've heard some of you. don't be sad for me. don't waste your time being angry at those who did this to me and my daughter. we are more than conquerers. pray for us, as we continue to fight the...
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cnn's senior legal analyst elie honig says more legal challenges could be coming. >> let's get our minds around what the consequences are. if this stands, and there is a legitimate question about if it will, if it stands this means that millions of voters will go to the voting booth in november in colorado and they will have only one major party name there. joe biden. that is it. that is the consequences here. and other states, there are dozens of pending lawsuits. we'll talk about which ones will sort of dictate the outcomes in which, but other states, this will encourage other litigation, other plaintiffs in other states who are going to try to knock him off the ballot as well. >> hoenig also weighed in on the chances of an appeal. >> the supreme court of colorado itself recognizes this almost certainly going up to the supreme court. so they say we'll stay, we'll put on pause our own ruling until at least january 4. if trump even asks the supreme court to review it, which he certainly will, it is on hold until then. so it is not going to keep him off any ballot unless and until the u.s
cnn's senior legal analyst elie honig says more legal challenges could be coming. >> let's get our minds around what the consequences are. if this stands, and there is a legitimate question about if it will, if it stands this means that millions of voters will go to the voting booth in november in colorado and they will have only one major party name there. joe biden. that is it. that is the consequences here. and other states, there are dozens of pending lawsuits. we'll talk about which...
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. >> our experts back with us, elie honig, it makes sense why the lawyers would do it this way.hey can ask him more, he can say more, what does he risk being on that stand? >> any competent lawyer on the planet would tell donald trump you are taking the fifth, you are not taking the stand, and alina hobb's explanation makes no sense, the reason why i advised him not to take the stand because you have a gag order, that applies equally inside and outside the courtroom, makes no difference if you take the stand. the reason you tell donald trump not to take the stand is you have four pending pending indic. so by taking the stand he risks anything that the ag's office wants to cross-examine him on. remember, they're going to go second here, right, his own lawyers are going to question him first but then the ag's lawyers get to stand up and cross-examine him. not necessarily on anything in the world, but on anything relating to this case, which gets into his finances which are relevant to, for example, the hush money case. he's absolutely taking a risk by taking the stand. >> natasha,
. >> our experts back with us, elie honig, it makes sense why the lawyers would do it this way.hey can ask him more, he can say more, what does he risk being on that stand? >> any competent lawyer on the planet would tell donald trump you are taking the fifth, you are not taking the stand, and alina hobb's explanation makes no sense, the reason why i advised him not to take the stand because you have a gag order, that applies equally inside and outside the courtroom, makes no...
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i want to break this down from we wait for the director to talk with elie honig, cnn senior legal analyst and former district attorney for new york, the very office andrew -- rudy giuliani lead decades ago. and andrew kirtzman, author of giuliani that rise and tragic fall of america's mayor, something we have obviously been following closely on the show. elliott, what do you think, what do you make of giuliani insisting all along he was going to testify and just pulling up at the last minute? >> it's the smartest movement in years. if you take in the tenth, i mentioned what catastrophe that would have been. this man is a pathological liar. he can't help himself. this case is really what happens when you combine vicious over the top defamation against innocent victims with the single worst legal strategy ever devised by a human mind. let's go through the way rudy and his lawyer approach this case. before, if they agreed that they were liable. that rudy was liable. they can see that, yes, what he did was defamatory. there might be a strategy there, if your strategy is just going to be true
i want to break this down from we wait for the director to talk with elie honig, cnn senior legal analyst and former district attorney for new york, the very office andrew -- rudy giuliani lead decades ago. and andrew kirtzman, author of giuliani that rise and tragic fall of america's mayor, something we have obviously been following closely on the show. elliott, what do you think, what do you make of giuliani insisting all along he was going to testify and just pulling up at the last minute?...
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. >>> let's hear from elie honig, walk us through this.s the 14th amendment apply here and what got us to the colorado supreme court? >> always a good idea to start with the actual constitution itself, we're talking about the 14th amendment, ratified in 1868, after the civil war. section 3 tells us no person shall hold any office who shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion, makes sense, fairly straightforward. it gets more complicated when we get to the question of how does this work? if we jump ahead to section 5 of the same 14th amendment, it tells us that congress shall have the power to enforce by appropriate legislation the provisions of this article. congress here, means the federal, united states congress, they can pass laws to enforce this, but they haven't done so in 150 years, which leaves us in a little bit of uncertainty. nonetheless, the colorado state court has a state law proceeding under colorado law that they can use in some circumstances, not specific to insurrection, on election questions. >> makes a difference i
. >>> let's hear from elie honig, walk us through this.s the 14th amendment apply here and what got us to the colorado supreme court? >> always a good idea to start with the actual constitution itself, we're talking about the 14th amendment, ratified in 1868, after the civil war. section 3 tells us no person shall hold any office who shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion, makes sense, fairly straightforward. it gets more complicated when we get to the question of how...
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but as elie honig points out, smith didn't mention the election specifically. >> when it comes to the question of whether it needs to be expedited, it's is there a need for speed here? because jack smith was unwilling or unable to say i'm trying to get this in before the election, all he was able to give was a bunch of generalities, and apparently the court found that unper unpersuasive. >> as for trump, he wants this dance to go on. he's the one that set the land mine in some respects. he would be in a much more favorable position if all this were decided, let's just say, after the election, and he could cut the lights and stop the music, and that's it if he wins, of course. whether it's this case or any other, if he wins the presidency -- and we're talking about a federal action -- he could have them all dropped. poof, gone. as far as that land mine goes, he's still out there trying to set more for every legal issue he's facing. he's saying this today after colorado's supreme court took him off the ballot. >> they're trying to take the election away from the voters, and they sue any
but as elie honig points out, smith didn't mention the election specifically. >> when it comes to the question of whether it needs to be expedited, it's is there a need for speed here? because jack smith was unwilling or unable to say i'm trying to get this in before the election, all he was able to give was a bunch of generalities, and apparently the court found that unper unpersuasive. >> as for trump, he wants this dance to go on. he's the one that set the land mine in some...
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attorney for the southern district of new york, elie honig, ladies and gentlemen, he is back again withe for you. this tape is -- says a lot. it is evidence that is sort of a pattern by donald trump. the fact that he was willing, as president, to reach out to people who were really at a ground level, not -- he was already talking to the high-level folks but he trickled down to those making the decision to sign something or not. what does this say about the level of -- for lack of a better word -- desperation on his part? >> well, sara, i think this is exactly why this is such compelling evidence, potentially, for prosecutors. first of all, prosecutors love tapes, there's nothing better than a tape. you get to play the jury exactly what happened. they can hear the exact words, they don't have to rely on somebody else's memory or characterization of it. they can hear the tonality of the people speaking, in this case in particular it sounds like based on the reporting the tape is actually going to sort of undermine what the witnesses have said, the canvassers who received these calls becau
attorney for the southern district of new york, elie honig, ladies and gentlemen, he is back again withe for you. this tape is -- says a lot. it is evidence that is sort of a pattern by donald trump. the fact that he was willing, as president, to reach out to people who were really at a ground level, not -- he was already talking to the high-level folks but he trickled down to those making the decision to sign something or not. what does this say about the level of -- for lack of a better word...
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joining me tonight, cnn senior legal analyst and former federal prosecutor elie honig and two georgia officials who testified before the fulton county grand jury, former state senator jen jurden and former lieutenant governor geoff duncan. let me start with you, because it seems like the very clear message we're getting is overturning the election is not part of anyone's official duties. >> baking news. yeah, what's so interesting is we're seeing the law evolve and develop. six months ago, we knew a lot of folks were going to make just this argument, that what i was doing was within my official duties therefore i'm entitled to be tried in federal court. the next step, which is a half step removed from there, therefore, my case should be dismissed. we didn't know how it was going to come out. we have seen mark meadows today, donald trump in other context, about a half dozen folks in all make those arguments and they have been uniformly rejected. they are batting .000, those rejections have come from state judges, from federal judges, as you said, from conservative judges, from middle o
joining me tonight, cnn senior legal analyst and former federal prosecutor elie honig and two georgia officials who testified before the fulton county grand jury, former state senator jen jurden and former lieutenant governor geoff duncan. let me start with you, because it seems like the very clear message we're getting is overturning the election is not part of anyone's official duties. >> baking news. yeah, what's so interesting is we're seeing the law evolve and develop. six months...
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i want to get perspective from actual attorneys, elie honig, a former assistant u.s.y, carrie cordero, assistant to the attorney general for national security. >> i think the court of appeals got it spot on. what the court of appeals has done is craft a ruling that's as narrow as possible, that protects donald trump's broad first amendment interest, but also protects the trial. i think the best way to understand it is if we look at the history. originally doj asked for an over-broad gag order. judge chutkan wisely rejected that. she instead said, he can say what he wants but he can't talk about court staff or witnesses, and he can't do something that might interfere with the jury. the court of appeals narrowed that a little bit more by saying, he can talk about jack smith, though. really he can say much of what he would want to say to protect himself vigorously in the public. >> the former president has vowed to appeal the gag order ruling. what are the chances of him winning this if it ends up at the supreme court? >> well, i think -- i agree with elie that i think t
i want to get perspective from actual attorneys, elie honig, a former assistant u.s.y, carrie cordero, assistant to the attorney general for national security. >> i think the court of appeals got it spot on. what the court of appeals has done is craft a ruling that's as narrow as possible, that protects donald trump's broad first amendment interest, but also protects the trial. i think the best way to understand it is if we look at the history. originally doj asked for an over-broad gag...
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honig., those are some big figures, i'm still stunned by that. so the judge has already found the former new york city mayor rudy giuliani liable for defamation and now it's about rendering what's going to be the penalty. a jury is going to make that decision. jury selection beginning. what are the challenges of seating a jury for one of perhaps the most -- one of the most famous politicians in this country? >> that's a great question. how do you seat a jury when everyone knows rudy giuliani? we're going to see a bigger version of this when donald trump goes to trial, a criminal case there, this is a civil case. the answer is you do not need to find a pool of jurors who have never heard of rudy giuliani. ideally you would like that, but that's impossible here. what you have to do and what they will ask the jurors starting today is do you have any pre-determined views on this case that would prevent you from ruling fairly based solely on the evidence you hear in court. the jurors will answer,
honig., those are some big figures, i'm still stunned by that. so the judge has already found the former new york city mayor rudy giuliani liable for defamation and now it's about rendering what's going to be the penalty. a jury is going to make that decision. jury selection beginning. what are the challenges of seating a jury for one of perhaps the most -- one of the most famous politicians in this country? >> that's a great question. how do you seat a jury when everyone knows rudy...
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. >> joining us with while we wait for that final stay for the jury is elie honig for more on this. have long said it was going to be a bad idea for rudy giuliani to testify if he was going to in this. but saying that you're going to testify and then at the last minute change the plan and not, does that also hurt him? >> you're exactly right, kate. maybe the only thing worse than rudy giuliani actually taking the stand is promising the jury that they would hear from rudy giuliani and then not putting him on the stand. when you are trying a case if you make a promise to a jury, if you tell them you're going to hear from a certain witness, see a certain piece of evidence and then you don't give it to them that totally undermines your credibility. that said, had rudy giuliani taken the stand, we know it would have been a complete disaster because look at the way he has been acting outside the courthouse. he is on the street defaming ms. moss and ms. freeman again. it was the lesser of two evils i think here but either way i think we're headed toward a very large verdict against rudy gi
. >> joining us with while we wait for that final stay for the jury is elie honig for more on this. have long said it was going to be a bad idea for rudy giuliani to testify if he was going to in this. but saying that you're going to testify and then at the last minute change the plan and not, does that also hurt him? >> you're exactly right, kate. maybe the only thing worse than rudy giuliani actually taking the stand is promising the jury that they would hear from rudy giuliani...
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perspective from elie honig. and back with us, kate bedingfield, and the two davids, axelrod and urban. why did judge chutkan hit pause? >> she had to legally. this is the immunity question here. this is where donald trump claims he cannot be prosecuted because what he did was part of his job as president. the law says while an issue like that is working through it's way of through appeals, it has to be on stay. she probably didn't want to, but she has to. the practical result is this march 4th trial date is very much in jeopardy. even if this appeal moves through the courts with lightning speed, the fastest it can realistically take is january, february, more likely in february. if you look at watergate -- >> that would be if the supreme court came in to address it. >> exactly. if they say, we're going to skip the court of appeals, we're going to have a fast-briefing schedule. we're looking at a ruling late january, early february. it took watergate two months, super expedited to rule. let's say we get a ruling
perspective from elie honig. and back with us, kate bedingfield, and the two davids, axelrod and urban. why did judge chutkan hit pause? >> she had to legally. this is the immunity question here. this is where donald trump claims he cannot be prosecuted because what he did was part of his job as president. the law says while an issue like that is working through it's way of through appeals, it has to be on stay. she probably didn't want to, but she has to. the practical result is this...
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honig, i want to drill into the legal pieces, there's not a lot of case law, i don't think there's any, to some degree, there is no precedent for this, this is unquestionably historic, 12, 14 hours to digest this, what are your thoughts? >> so my thoughts are split into two camps, the first is that we shouldn't get overexcited that this is just, you know, i think it doesn't necessarily mean that trump's ruled out. it's clear that the supreme court, i think of the united states, will probably take up this case. this may mean just a setback. we may even see trump on the ballot if the supreme court takes up the case before january 5th, which is the day for certification of candidates on the ballot. but on the other hand it is historic because it is a preview of what is to come. now, this is something that is part of this kind of -- these ideas about insurrection, about overthrowing democracy, about the accountability that's all step stemming from the trump presidency, it's a defining case in terms of thinking about how these things will play out over the next year and the next presidentia
honig, i want to drill into the legal pieces, there's not a lot of case law, i don't think there's any, to some degree, there is no precedent for this, this is unquestionably historic, 12, 14 hours to digest this, what are your thoughts? >> so my thoughts are split into two camps, the first is that we shouldn't get overexcited that this is just, you know, i think it doesn't necessarily mean that trump's ruled out. it's clear that the supreme court, i think of the united states, will...