so, like, the alleged fraud by whatever her name was -- liz: elizabeth holmes. >> elizabeth holmes andnitial private investors, who were sophisticated investors, still a lot of money, right? because it turned out not to work, the product. even though she sold them on it would work. this is a little different, you know? kind of you know what you're getting with chatgpt, right in it's not the most perfect thing in the world. you know, you're going to have to really prove that these guys, you know, were screwing around with numbers or whatever that brought in the investors to invest in something that maybe is a fug sax i -- fugasi. liz: a technical term on wall street, folks. >> yes, it is. chatg gpt, is it a f if ugasi? and is it sold that way? if microsoft -- fug with asi. it's hard to blow smoke up you know in what in microsoft if when they are on the fore if front of due diligence and avenue i. and everything. -- a a.i. and everything. so i say why are they bringing the case why are they looking at it? gary gensler, this is another area where he wants to expand the sec's foot print. l