former labour adviser mike buckley and journalist and author ella whelan are here. good to see you both, mike. let's start with the telegraph. should we, i put this to nigel farage earlier on. actually, it's a little piece saying that richard tice, the leader of reform uk, has slapped him down. >> yeah. so richard tice, who is the leader of reform , and their the leader of reform, and their only notable figure really, has hasindeed only notable figure really, has has indeed slapped down nigel farage because richard obviously needs to, wants to say to the country, you know, we're we're the alternative right wing party vote for us rather than the conservative party who failed the country. indeed, the conservatives have failed the country. but my response to that would be to vote labour, obviously, and get a better government. however nigel farage, who is the honorary president, i believe, of reform, has been kind of showing a bit of leg to the conservative party in rishi sunak and effectively saying give me a peerage, give me a job and i'll get reform candidates to st