did you ever end up meeting the candidate, ellen lee zhao?o he asked me to fly up to meet with the donor. and at that time, i've never met miss ellen, but, uh, he agreed. i was staying in a hotel near the airport. he would bring her by for breakfast prior to my meeting with the donor. okay, when you say he would bring her by, could you clarify? paul brought, uh, missile, uh, by my hotel lobby, uh, where i was having coffee and breakfast. okay. so you met with the candidate, ellen lee giles? uh, met her, uh, briefly. uh we had a nice little conversation. get to know each other. uh just the first time i met her, uh, seemed very nice person. um that was it. and i have to leave, and they had to leave. so okay. and where did you go after the meeting with the candidate? i went to visit the donor who lived up in downtown san francisco. okay. how did you get the address? i was given the address by mr. taylor. okay. and and did mr. taylor attend that meeting? um, no, he didn't initially, because . because it was just supposed to be me. and to get to k