nick: emma ashford, 45 seconds? emma: i'm not sure that he nick: and can putin be convinced that he can't win? and, therefore, should the west get to the point where ukraine can win? emma: i am not convinced that this is sustainable for five or seven years or whatever long-term we're talking about, but i do believe that the ukrainians with the western help that's already committed can deny the russians additional gains and convince putin that he cannot achieve anything else on the battlefield, and that is the point at which you start looking for a negotiated settlement. so that's how i think we finally do start to move towards a settlement in this conflict. nick: emma ashford, ambassador bill taylor, thank you very much to you both. william: thank you, nick. benefic: here are the latest headlines. president biden plans to designate kenya as a major non-nato ally. mr. biden made the announcement as he hosted kenyan president william ruto at the white house today. it's the first official state visit to the u.s. by an