let's bring in israel's general to the pacific southwest israel bachar and watchman host erik stakelbecke you both on. hamas says no more hostages released until and unless israel stops firing all together. no ceasefire, not temporary, until they stop firing all together. israel had the following comment. this is from the military spokesman daniel, quoting senior hamas officials declared the return of hostages possible only with an immediate end of the ground operation. it's important to mow to collar foy the idf is determined to dismantle hamas and as you say israel has now seen, gaza is now a war machine top to bottom. >> correct. what we've zone after 73 days that every square meter in gaza has been used for a terrorist infrastructure. aboveground and underground. we just see the tunnel this week, the four kilometers, 15 meters deep of tunnels, i call it tunnels from hell is what i call it. regarding the hostages, israel the number one goal is to bring all the hostages home, however, we are not willing not to topple hamas. we are going to topple hamas whether we have the time for it,