she's a woman of esther rantzen.she can afford to go to he to dignitas. she can. uh, but he said, about far poorer said, what about far poorer families where there will be pressure on just the people you're talking about? and that's why he thought the law shouldn't be changed. why he thought the law shouldn't be yeah.ed. why he thought the law shouldn't be yeah. look, there's no >> yeah. look, there's no painless panacea here of an outcome. you know, you can you if you look at one case in isolation or one set of circumstances in isolation, then of course, people will say we must change the law. but when you when you to change the you when you vote to change the law in parliament, you've got to be of what be mindful of what the unintended that unintended consequences of that are . and i'm convinced that are. and i'm not convinced that it it wouldn't create new injustices and new unfairnesses that then people will say, well, hold on, we never really expected this or wanted this. and i'm not persuaded of the case the la

dame esther rantzen is best known for presenting the bbc show that's life.he'd been diagnosed with terminal lung cancer and is currently undergoing what she describes as "a miracle treatment". but if that doesn't work, dame esther says she might go to dignitas, an assisted dying clinic in switzerland. it's an idea that's supported by her daughter, rebecca. she doesn't want us to see her have an awful, painful death. she wants us to remember her as she is now, which is epically wonderful. but rebecca fears she could be prosecuted if she helps her mother travel to dignitas. i wouldn't be able to go with her. my husband would go nuts if he thought i was going to go with her. i'm looking after two kids. i'm trying to work. i can't go to prison. i can't go through a court case at the worst point in my life. when i've lost my person, i'm suddenly being prosecuted with her death. this latest call for change concerns a law which sharply divides opinion. campaigners say assisted dying would give people suffering with terminal illness greater control over how and when

>> i think if you're doing what esther rantzen done, i mean, esther rantzen has done, i mean, she wasllness, um, a year or maybe a bit longer ago , and maybe a bit longer ago, and she's made it absolutely clear that, you know, if she if the treatment becomes too, too intrusive, too painful or whatever, i mean, she's obviously not going to get better, but all the time she can carry on. that's not the same as saying, oh, as soon i've been saying, oh, as soon as i've been diagnosed terminal diagnosed with a terminal illness, i want to pop off to switzerland. it's about a switzerland. it's about having a conversation and about controlling. what stage you controlling. at what stage you want to say, i've had enough. >> well, also, curating your own death. i mean, i've, i have a lovely vision . i'd like to die lovely vision. i'd like to die in my bed with my beloved people that i love round me and my pets on the bed with me. that's my idea of how i want to die . and idea of how i want to die. and why on earth should i not be allowed to have that? >> richard says a completely disagree with ev

dame esther rantzen has said she's considering the option of assisted dying, and has called on mps toer — said she's currently receiving a "miracle" treatment. but she said she has joined the clinic dignitas, which is based in switzerland, where assisted dying is legal, in case her condition gets worse. helena wilkinson reports. dame esther rantzen, best known for presenting the bbc show that's life, became a household name during her decades—long broadcasting career. injanuary she revealed she had been diagnosed with lung cancer, now at its most advanced stage. the 83—year—old's diagnosis has made her think about her own death. she is currently undergoing what she describes as a miracle treatment, but if that doesn't work, dame esther says she might go to dignitas, an assisted dying clinic in switzerland which she hasjoined. i have joined dignitas. i have in my brain thought, "well, if the next scan "says nothing is working, i might buzz off to zurich." if you watch someone you love having a bad death, that memory obliterates all the happy times. and i don't want that to happen. i do

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now this all was kicked off by, as you know, esther rantzen. got esther rantzen.g cancer. she's stage four lung cancer. she's registered dignitas, which registered for dignitas, which is harrowing and heartbreaking for and he is saying, uh, for her. and he is saying, uh, he appears to be agreeing with esther rantzen , calling for a esther rantzen, calling for a free vote on this issue in parliament. >> he says it seems appropriate , >> he says it seems appropriate, but i do personally think there's ground for grounds for changing the law . so it would changing the law. so it would have to be a free vote on the issue. we have to be very careful where there are such divided and strong views. >> yeah, i mean, i felt like this was coming actually for a while. um, when i was at the labour conference, um, earlier this year, i noticed that there were multiple stands and stalls at conference were at the conference that were supporting in the law supporting a change in the law on dying . i mean, it supporting a change in the law on dying. i mean, it is on assisted dying. i

. >> it's time to support esther rantzen and the right to die and why we shouldn't bother celebrating christmas unless we're going to remember what it's really all about. >> it's 6 pm. and this is the saturday five. >> oh, come all ye faithful. >> oh, come all ye faithful. >> you're very welcome to this festive edition of the saturday five. it's that time of year when you expect three wise men to show up. but unfortunate i'm stuck with. i'll be ben and benjamin. at least they have a star to follow in the shape of the brilliant belinda de lucy. now we may not have any wise men, but we do come bearing gifts. a christmas cracker of a show full of lively and opinionated debate. you know, the drill. by now we each get 60s to outline an argument about a chosen topic , and then a chosen topic, and then everyone piles in and it goes pretty downhill pretty quick . pretty downhill pretty quick. faster than a eamonn bbq interview. and of course we want to know as well your views much more important than ours. get in touch please by emailing gbviews@gbnews.com but before we tear each other apart

once again esther rantzen giving — esther would hope.se earthquakes. lava is spewing out of a two—mile crack near the fishing town of grindavik, which was evacuated last month. louisa pilbeam reports. it's a breathtaking sight. the volcanic eruptions on the reykjanes peninsula transformed iceland's night sky. one witness took this video, as they were driven past, as lava spews from the volcano. but with this display of nature's power comes the obvious danger to human life. scientists knew this was coming for weeks — a series of earthquakes and changes to the ground were the early signs. everyone was prepared. they evacuate the town exactly when they should have done. like the iceland... icelanders are especially good at this because the entire country wouldn't exist if it wasn't for all these volcanoes. like the whole country is volcanic, so everyone is, like, fully educated, fully aware. no one messes about, you know. everyone listens to the scientists, exactly what they're saying. around 4,000 people had already been evacuated from the

dane esther rantzen joins the dignitas swiss clinic saying she is considering an assisted dying if hertion of assisted dying. said she's considering the 83—year—old broadcaster — who has lung cancer — said she's currently receiving a "miracle" treatment but that she has joined the zurich—based assisted dying clinic, dignitas, in case her condition gets worse. talking to bbc radio 4's the today podcast, dame esther said british laws need to be updated. i have joined dignitas.

brought forward assisted suicide, whatever you wa esther rantzen. something we >> yes. is it something we should have? personally, i think >> yes. is it something we shoubutiave? personally, i think >> yes. is it something we shoubut we'llpersonally, i think >> yes. is it something we shoubut we'll be sonally, i think >> yes. is it something we shoubut we'll be goingy, i think >> yes. is it something we shoubut we'll be going through not. but we'll be going through the case against and for. the case both against and for. >> cannot an issue >> i cannot think of an issue that i had to face in 20 years as an mep that i felt more confused over than this particular one. you'll have to listen be in the car listen very. i'll be in the car listening. that's enough from me. let's a look me. let's have a look at the weather. back with you tomorrow at 7:00. weather. back with you tomorrow at 7looks like things are heating >> looks like things are heating up. spot of weather up. boxt boilers spot of weather on gb news is . on gb news is. >> hello. welcome to yo

brought forward assisted suicide, whatever you wa esther rantzen. something we >> yes. is it something we should have? personally, i think >> yes. is it something we shoubutiave? personally, i think >> yes. is it something we shoubut we'llpersonally, i think >> yes. is it something we shoubut we'll be sonally, i think >> yes. is it something we shoubut we'll be goingr, i think >> yes. is it something we shoubut we'll be going through not. but we'll be going through the case against and for. the case both against and for. >> cannot an issue >> i cannot think of an issue that i had to face in 20 years as an mep that i felt more confused over than this particular one. you'll have to listen be in the car listen very. i'll be in the car listening. that's enough from me. let's a look me. let's have a look at the weather. back with you tomorrow at 7:00. weather. back with you tomorrow at 7looks like things are heating >> looks like things are heating up. spot of weather up. boxt boilers spot of weather on gb news is . on gb news is. >> hello. welcome to yo

dane esther rantzen joins the dignitas swiss clinic saying she is considering an assisted dying if her lung cancer doesn't take to treatment. dame esther rantzen has said she's considering the option of assisted dying. said she's considering the 83—year—old broadcaster — who has lung cancer — said she's currently receiving a "miracle" treatment but that she has joined the zurich—based assisted dying clinic, dignitas, in case her condition gets worse. talking to bbc radio 4's the today podcast, dame esther said british laws need to be updated. i have joined dignitas. i have, in my brain, thought, "well, if the next scan "says nothing's working, i might buzz off to zurich." but, you know, it puts my family and friends in a difficult position because they would want to go with me and that means that the police might prosecute them. so we've got to do something. at the moment, it's not really working, is it? the scottish government's tax and spending plans will be announced later today. economists are warning that ministers are grappling with a black hole in the budget amounting to £1.5 bi

dame esther rantzen has said she's considering the option of assisted dying. "miracle" treatment but that she has joined the zurich—based assisted dying clinic, dignitas, in case her condition gets worse. talking to bbc radio 4's the today podcast, dame esther said british laws need to be updated. i have joined dignitas. i have, in my brain, thought, "well, if the next scan "says nothing's working, i might buzz off to zurich." but, you know, it puts my family and friends in a difficult position because they would want to go with me and that means that the police might prosecute them. so we've got to do something. at the moment, it's not really working, is it? let's speak now to baroness ilora finlay, a consultant in palliative medicine and a crossbench member of the house of lords. you were listening to that interview earlier. what you make of what she says about how she wants to go, she's made the decision if she wants to go she will tell her family but the problem is that if they went with her they could be prosecuted? she makes some other important points i

after uh, dame esther rantzen spoke about joining dignitas clinic.ews.uk com but let's get the weather now with annie . get the weather now with annie. >> good morning. to your >> good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. i'm shuttleworth from i'm annie shuttleworth from the met office. is to be met office. today is going to be another not quite as another windy day. not quite as windy as yesterday, but there will persistent will be some quite persistent rain showers across more rain and showers across more northern eastern areas in northern and eastern areas in the south and west, though it should drier and should be a much drier and brighter day there is brighter day and there is a chance some sunshine chance of seeing some sunshine through here. through the afternoon here. however this band of rain will continue to stream in to more northwestern . parts of northwestern areas. parts of southwestern scotland north western england, northern ireland well, and the far ireland as well, and the far north—east scotland will see north—ea

dame esther rantzen says she is considering the option earlier, i spoke to gill castle, founder of thewim the channel and the relation to her charity in kenya. now she is working with her charity, helping women in kenyan. i asked her why she chose to swim the channel. i thought, actually, this is going to be a really good way of raising awareness. really in—your—face way, more people have climbed everest and they have swam the channel. also, when you have a stoma, swimming is on the main things that people worry about doing because of, they think the bag will leak or come off. it was only after i decided i would submit, i discovered no one with a stoma had done it before. it added element of risk because i wasn't sure what would happen to the risk after being so long in the water. just explain the concerns with that? when you spend a prolonged amount of time in the water, the worry was that my stoma bag would come off and obviously my bowel, which is the stoma, the worry was the top layer of the bowel would come off, it would disintegrate with the salt. obviously, no one has done this

rantzen gave to the bbc.d earlier this week said she had joined the assisted dying clinic dignitas. 0n the question of assisted dying, they're obviously strong _ views both ways on this, - which i respect, and that's why, traditionally, this- has always been dealt with with a private member's bill and a free vote, and that- seems appropriate to me. i personally do think there - are grounds for changing the law. we have to be careful, - but it would to be, i think, a free vote on an issue where there are such l divided and strong views. claire, the current health secretary said it had to be a private member�*s bill and then it would be a free vote for mps in the house to vote on their conscience but i don�*t think there is time in this parliament to hold such a vote?— there is time in this parliament to hold such a vote? know, there would not be time- — hold such a vote? know, there would not be time. you've _ hold such a vote? know, there would not be time. you've got _ hold such a vote? know, there would not

the cause has been championed by dame esther rantzen, who has called for politicians to grapple withe the issue was voted on in the commons in 2015, acknowledged it would have to be addressed carefully. 0n the question of assisted dying, they're obviously strong views both ways on this, which i respect, and that's why, traditionally, this has always been dealt with with a private member's bill and a free vote, and that seems appropriate to me. i personally do think there are grounds for changing the law. we have to be careful, but it would to be, i think, a free vote on an issue where there are such divided and strong views. now it's time for a look at the weather with chris fawkes. a row has broken out between parents and their children's primary school in east london. it comes after an eight—year—old palestinian boy was excluded from class for wearing a palestinian badge on his coat. 0ne palestinian badge on his coat. one of the parents received what they feel our letters threatening a referral to the government's counterterrorism programme prevent. they claim it is because of thei

people weird, people might think it's weird, but esther rantzen but we did esther rantzen earlier week there we 90, blue in the face. so there we go, nigella. who's your union? >> t baroness michelle >> jack carson baroness michelle eamonn. a dreadful eamonn. okay. what a dreadful explanation , given that she had explanation, given that she had to lie to the press. but that didn't matter because she told everybody else what she was. oh, now awful. now. awful. >> zero zero. so okay, it is probably worth noting for everybody. we ask our panel to pick their, uh, union jack carson greatest britons in the day. and actually , if we're day. and actually, if we're being honest, i think all of you really went for michelle mone. and we had mix it up a little and we had to mix it up a little bit. charlotte, you've you're not deviated have not deviated that much, have you. actually i came up you. no. well actually i came up with my own. with this all on my own. >> i didn't copy john, >> i didn't just copy john, it's michelle husband's shirt . michelle moon's husband's shirt. not an object , michel

meanwhile national treasure esther rantzen announced yesterday that she'll go to dignitas to end her life. but are her own family happy with this decision? i'll be joined live by esther's daughter to get her reaction. we'll also be discussing having your fingerprints taken at the airport and italy. gazumping our migrant deal with the albanians with our very own nana akua on my panel tonight is political commentator suzanne evans, tory mp ronald jayawardena and broadcaster extraordinaire rebecca reid. this is patrick christys tonight. here we go . christys tonight. here we go. email me now gb views or gb news.com. are schools indoctrinating kids with trans nonsense? oh, and see if you can guess what happens next here. a woman pushing a pram down a street near a road . everything's street near a road. everything's fine . or is it? i'll see you fine. or is it? i'll see you after the headlines . after the headlines. >> patrick. thank you and good evening to you. well, a political development in the last half hour or so to tell you about a by—election is definitely going to take place now

we've got to be so careful that the right to die for people like esther rantzen , with lots of money, with lots of money and autonomy, doesn't become the duty die for the frail, duty to die for the frail, elderly people who are dependent on exhausted family. on their exhausted family. >> um, is that what you meant by unintended consequences? a moment ago? tell me about jurisdiction where this has changed, and where you say there have been unfortunate but unintended consequences ? unintended consequences? >> yes. i think canada is an excellent example because they only brought in, uh, medical assistance in dying maid, as they call it, in 2016. and that was for effectively for terminal illness. similar to what we would propose in the or people would propose in the or people would propose in the or people would propose in the uk within just a few years. there was a court case when two disabled people said, well, that's not fair. we want to have it to. and so the law was changed so that now any chronic illness, any disability can qualify you physical disability. and now next year they're

dame esther rantzen is best known for presenting the bbc show that's life. cancer and is currently undergoing what she describes as "a miracle treatment". but if that doesn't work, dame esther says she might go to dignitas, an assisted dying clinic in switzerland. it's an idea that's supported by her daughter, rebecca. she doesn't want us to see her have an awful, painful death. she wants us to remember her as she is now, which is epically wonderful. but rebecca fears she could be prosecuted if she helps her mother travel to dignitas. i wouldn't be able to go with her. my husband would go nuts if he thought i was going to go with her. i'm looking after two kids. i'm trying to work. i can't go to prison. i can't go through a court case at the worst point in my life. when i've lost my person, i'm suddenly being prosecuted with her death. this latest call for change concerns a law which sharply divides opinion. campaigners say assisted dying would give people suffering with terminal illness greater control over how and when they die. opponents argue a change in

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his story first came to light decades later in the bbc�*s that's life with esther rantzen.ly to our culture editor katie razzall. there was nothing heroic about it. sir nicholas winton saved 669 children from the nazis. it's just a question of organisational work. now a new film, one life, charts the story of the modest london stockbroker who helped many jewish children flee czechoslovakia as hitler closed in. johnny flynn plays the young winton. do you ever think about the children and what happened to them? it meant something to me in a different way because i'm old enough to have remembered the war and remember the holocaust. is there anyone in our audience and who owes— is there anyone in our audience and who owes their life to nicholas went to? if_ who owes their life to nicholas went to? if so, _ who owes their life to nicholas went to? if so, could you. he just hoped that we would learn from it. nicholas winton kept what he did secret for 50 years. but in 1988 he appeared on the bbc�*s that's life programme. can i ask, is there anyone in our audience tonight. who owe

so staying with josh, esther with the telegraph, josh, esther rantzen exercise an rantzen continues toaordinary control over the legislature program of the nation. >> yeah , well this is quite it's interesting. >> so yeah. esther rantzen a few days ago said she was, uh, coming out and she's, she's 83, she's got cancer. very sad. and she's, dignitas . um, she's, uh, joined dignitas. um, and that has kind of brought this debate up again . and one of this debate up again. and one of this debate up again. and one of this article is essentially saying starmer allow saying that starmer may allow a free on assisted dying to free vote on assisted dying to end injustice , but he's not said end injustice, but he's not said that. end injustice, but he's not said that . no, there's no end injustice, but he's not said that. no, there's no indication that. no, there's no indication that he will actually do that. but because of his previous position on it, where he has when he was , uh, there's been no when he was, uh, there's been no new announcement. no, there's been no new announcement, whatever.

so staying with josh, esther with the telegraph, josh, esther rantzen exercise an rantzen continues toinary control over the legislature program of the nation. >> yeah , well this is quite it's interesting. >> so yeah. esther rantzen a few days ago said she was, uh, coming out and she's, she's 83, she's got cancer. very sad. and she's, dignitas . um, she's, uh, joined dignitas. um, and that has kind of brought this debate up again . and one of this debate up again. and one of this debate up again. and one of this article is essentially saying starmer allow saying that starmer may allow a free on assisted dying to free vote on assisted dying to end injustice , but he's not said end injustice, but he's not said that. end injustice, but he's not said that . no, there's no end injustice, but he's not said that. no, there's no indication that. no, there's no indication that he will actually do that. but because of his previous position on it, where he has when he was , uh, there's been no when he was, uh, there's been no new announcement. no, there's been no new announcement, whatever. but

his story first came to light decades later in the bbc�*s that's life with dame esther rantzen.eroic about it. sir nicholas winton saved 669 children from the nazis. it's just a question of organisational work. now a new film, one life, charts the story of the modest london stockbroker who helped mainly jewish children flee czechoslovakia as hitler closed in. johnny flynn plays the young winton. do you ever think about the children and what happened to them? sir anthony hopkins is a tour de force as the older nicholas winton. it meant something to me in a different way because i'm old enough to have remembered the war and remember the holocaust. i was speaking to sir anthony from the wiener holocaust library, the uk's largest holocaust archive. winton had no sentimentality about it. he didn't want to be regarded as a hero. he just hoped that we would learn from it. nicholas winton kept what he did secret for 50 years. but in 1988, he appeared on the bbc�*s that's life! programme. can i ask, is there anyone in our audience tonight. who owes their life to nicholas winton? — if so,

esther rantzen, candace and dignitas and i would say, first of all, everything esther says.wish her well with mine. um, we wish her well with what's going on. she's got stage four cancer. um, she's saying she would like the right to end it as. and when she decides . and it as. and when she decides. and i personally think it's barbaric that we don't give people the right to end their lives. >> it's desperately sad. i think anyone who's seen someone with late stage cancer when they're in their final days, it is one of the hardest things you will eveh of the hardest things you will ever, ever, ever see. it is a very traumatic experience for the family, family and friends as well. i think the other side of it, though, is that the people campaign against people who campaign against assisted will assisted dying laws will say, well a slippery slope, well, there's a slippery slope, as seen in and as we've seen in belgium and canada, instance , where canada, for instance, where people sort of very severe people with sort of very severe mental health conditions are being for assisted

esther rantzen did the rest and it was really due to her, of course.hole holocaust horror stories came out that we began to seriously realise what had happened in the past. so now, as i say, we are busy travelling the country. telling schools. i have masses of letters from small children, one which i read out from an 11—year—old little girl, who says that she had a three—year—old brother and helped her mum to look after him. she went away to a holiday camp for a week and she was homesick and she couldn't understand how i felt. sometimes i would say to the children, do you ever say, i hate you to your parents? she now said i had parents i can cherish. this is a letter from had parents i can cherish. this is a letterfrom an had parents i can cherish. this is a letter from an 11—year—old which are use by example. people ask what children get out of my talk and that is a perfect example of what they get out of my talk. the film coming out about nicholas winton is called one life. it is based on _ winton is called one life. it is based on the _ winton is ca

dame esther rantzen says the cruelty must stop as mps from rival parties back her call for a free vote4 dead.i more on this gunman in prague 14 dead. i believe that death toll is now 15. um, several others injured. uh, he's believed to have been a student at that university. opened fire earlier on. he was . he university. opened fire earlier on. he was. he was one of university. opened fire earlier on. he was . he was one of the 15 on. he was. he was one of the 15 i understand. sorry he was one of the 15. yeah. okay um, call for health warnings on wood burning stoves air burning stoves to kerb air pollution on wood burning stoves should be labelled with health warnings. grief i mean, come on, it's like when you're an underground, isn't it's like underground, isn't it? it's like it's remember it's the hot day. remember to dnnk it's the hot day. remember to drink it . drink water. oh, come off it. uh, treat patients in corridors, ambulance chiefs demand action to a&e and we go to cut queues at a&e and we go over the mirror . to cut queues at a&e and we go over the mirror. killer's over t

i think in the end we had a marvellous we had esther rantzen in there, robert kilroy silk paddy who ther. yeah. um timmy mallett, joe's carwash who won it? martina navratilova. i mean, we had a really big line—up and it was more i'm haven't even mentioned. >> well, listen, the biggest star was hugh david van day and look forward to catching up soon. a weekend. soon. have a great weekend. lovely the lovely to have you on the program, david. thanks for your time. up weekend time. coming up this weekend on mark legendary mark dolan tonight, legendary rock philip norman rock biographer philip norman talking the beatles, the rolling stones and elton john also is the cop 28 environment conference, a load of hot air. i'll be asking boris johnson's old zealot stanley old man, eco zealot stanley johnson and tv and radio legend david hamilton, ukip leader neil hamilton and ann widdecombe, mark dolan tonight, saturday and sunday from 9 to 11. next up, the brilliant patrick christys patrick, what have you got for us? >> yeah, great show, mark. look i've got a very special edition of patrick christy

i think in the end we had a marvellous we had esther rantzen in there, robert kilroy silk paddy who theyor. yeah. um timmy mallett, joe's carwash who won it? martina navratilova. i mean, we had a really big line—up and it was more i'm haven't even mentioned. >> well, listen, the biggest star was hugh david van day and look forward to catching up soon. a weekend. soon. have a great weekend. lovely the lovely to have you on the program, david. thanks for your time. up weekend time. coming up this weekend on mark legendary mark dolan tonight, legendary rock philip norman rock biographer philip norman talking the beatles, the rolling stones and elton john also is the cop 28 environment conference, a load of hot air. i'll be asking boris johnson's old zealot stanley old man, eco zealot stanley johnson and tv and radio legend david hamilton, ukip leader neil hamilton and ann widdecombe, mark dolan tonight, saturday and sunday from 9 to 11. next up, the brilliant patrick christys patrick, what have you got for us? >> yeah, great show, mark. look i've got a very special edition of patrick chris

dame esther rantzen says the cruelty must stop as mps from rival parties back her call for a free votedead.i more on this gunman in prague 14 dead. i believe that death toll is now 15. um, several others injured. uh, he's believed to have been a student at that university. opened fire earlier on. he was . he university. opened fire earlier on. he was. he was one of university. opened fire earlier on. he was . he was one of the 15 on. he was. he was one of the 15 i understand. sorry he was one of the 15. yeah. okay um, call for health warnings on wood burning stoves air burning stoves to kerb air pollution on wood burning stoves should be labelled with health warnings. grief i mean, come on, it's like when you're an underground, isn't it's like underground, isn't it? it's like it's remember it's the hot day. remember to dnnk it's the hot day. remember to drink it . drink water. oh, come off it. uh, treat patients in corridors, ambulance chiefs demand action to a&e and we go to cut queues at a&e and we go over the mirror . to cut queues at a&e and we go over the mirror. killer's over to

rantzen , um, my friend esther rantzen, um, who's got stage four cancer.ears of age. she's considering the option as she faces dying of lung cancer. >> yeah, according to obviously , >> yeah, according to obviously, talks with esther rantzen's family. but also credit for esther for raising this issue. i think something lot think it's something that a lot of facing. of older people are facing. indeed a lot of people indeed i think a lot of people are esther and his are facing esther and his daughter has told the mirror she's horrified of the thought of to switzerland of her mum flying to switzerland to at dignitas to die alone at a dignitas clinic, and the reason she'd have to alone is that if her have to die alone is that if her daughter went her, she daughter went with her, she would be culpable in assisting her dying. >> yeah, 14 years in prison, you could face. >> right? >> right? >> right. what kind of >> right. i mean, what kind of society we? society are we? >> all that's >> well, i think all that's nonsense. that's nonsense. nonsense. all that's non

it's in the wake of esther rantzen's plea, i suppose. what's going on here?r secretary stephen former health secretary stephen dornan and alan milburn who have come out now and they're pushing for government a new for government to make a new vote about assisted dying. for government to make a new votiwhetherissisted dying. for government to make a new votiwhether it'sted dying. for government to make a new votiwhether it's something that's >> whether it's something that's going to be up for debate, i can see now for next year, even more importantly, it's something that's have feature that's going to have to feature in people's election manifestos, andifs in people's election manifestos, and it's of those topics and it's one of those topics now, especially as you've got someone profile esther someone high profile as esther rantzen talking about considering assisted dying. i think she's kind of struck a match where people actually match now where people actually are going to start thinking whether this should be a legal opfion whether this should be a legal opt

meanwhile national treasure esther rantzen announced yesterday that she'll go to dignitas to end her i'll be joined live by esther's daughter to get her reaction. we'll also be discussing having your fingerprints taken at the airport and italy. gazumping our migrant deal with the albanians with our very own nana akua on my panel tonight is political commentator suzanne evans, tory mp ronald jayawardena and broadcaster extraordinaire rebecca reid. this is patrick christys tonight. here we go .

. >> rantzen says >> dame esther rantzen says she'll consider using assisted dying as she battles lungncer . the broadcaster told the bbc she's joined the swiss organisation dignitas , which organisation dignitas, which provides doctor supervised assisted dying. she's calling for a free vote in parliament to make it legal here in the uk. the old model of accessing dental care in england is gone for good. that's the warning from a leading think tank. most enters are no longer taking on new patients with warnings new nhs patients with warnings the service is in decay and at its worst point in 75 years, according to the nuffield trust, spending on dental services has dropped by more than half £1 billion since 2015, it says the universe service is no longer offered by the nhs and recommends the government take some difficult decisions to ensure those most in need continue to receive basic care . continue to receive basic care. there's been a rise in violence against shop workers at asda supermarkets, amid claims that financial pressure is leading to staff cuts. jean horton , from staff cut

that, of course, comes after esther rantzen revealed this week that she was planning to go to dignitas. lynn assisted dying. is it something that we should be having a better conversation about ? about? >> i do think we need to have a conversation about it, but there's more people now that's coming out who wanted to , um, coming out who wanted to, um, uh, have assisted dying and they now are happy that it hasn't been because they would have regretted it. obviously, they wouldn't be here, but i think we have to be really careful because of people will, because a lot of people will, um, won't use this for the good, and they could manipulate people that are vulnerable. whether that's for to gain inheritance or whatever the case may be. i think we have to tread really carefully, i don't think we carefully, but i don't think we should completely disregard people saying, i'm not people who are saying, i'm not having any quality of life. i hate it here. i really want to 90, go, lisa. >> wouldn't treat , uh, dogs >> we wouldn't treat, uh, dogs in way, but yet, you know, in that way, but yet, y

i must say today they, the daily express, urges mps to grant esther rantzen the chance to hear a debatence to hear a debate on assisted dying , an issue which assisted dying, an issue which matters very much to her. the dignitas rumbles on, so dignitas debate rumbles on, so those are your front pages . it's those are your front pages. it's time to pick through some of them. of course, with my press pack, i've got author and broadcaster christine hamilton, businessman and activist adam brooks, journalist and broadcaster benjamin butterworth , and quite a lot to pick over here. isn't there really . here. isn't there really. i mean, i think one of the ones that stands out, uh, to me is what's on the front of the metro as well, found alive, kidnapped brit here, 78, set up by lover . brit here, 78, set up by lover. but i know you guys have been picking through some of the papers haven't you? papers as well, haven't you? what's couple of things that what's a couple of things that stood out to you, christine? in our our press there's our in our press packs, there's some as well, some inside st

dame esther rantzen is on the front of the daily express, thanking a "miracle drug" which has helpedthe royal mint, including this £2 coin showing sir winston churchill as a young man in 1895, in the uniform of the 4th queen's 0wn hussars. it marks the 150th anniversary of his death. other new coins released today include a £2 coin marking the 200th anniversary of the national gallery, a 50p coin celebrating the double—centenary of the rnli, and a £5 coin with an image of buckingham palace. i like the national gallery one. look at the detail in the rnli one. very nice. look at the detail in the rnli one. ve nice. , ., . look at the detail in the rnli one. very nice-— i - look at the detail in the rnli one. | very nice._ i have very nice. they do look nice. i have two questions _ very nice. they do look nice. i have two questions for _ very nice. they do look nice. i have two questions for you. _ very nice. they do look nice. i have two questions for you. if _ very nice. they do look nice. i have two questions for you. if you - very nice. they do look nice. i have two questions for yo

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i appreciate that, and you will be aware of the debate around assisted dying after esther rantzen announcedving to deal with at the moment. on the issue of assisted dying, we've always had a really important principle which is that it's not a matterfor the important principle which is that it's not a matter for the government of the day to decide this. it's for individual parliamentarians to act on their conscience. so i very much respect that process and i'm very conscious also as health secretary i have a responsibility. i don't want to speak seen to be pushing the debate in a particular direction because my own personal thoughts or views are there, so i've said this is a matterfor views are there, so i've said this is a matter for parliament and should a backbencher bring forward a private members bill, then of course the house will consider that but these matters of conscience, that is these matters of conscience, that is the way we do them and have done historically because these are such sensitive issues and we appreciate there will be a range of views on this very sensitive and delic

. >> just a quick word on dame esther rantzen and her campaign on. >> well yes. on the front page. the express are doing a big dying with dignity campaign. there's obviously going to be a big 2024 push, uh, to make assisted dying , big 2024 push, uh, to make assisted dying, um, legal in this country . assisted dying, um, legal in this country. i don't think it will happen in england , but it will happen in england, but it might happen in scotland first. um, i suspect this will happen now because the sort of moral weight of the argument has gone against people like me who have concerns about euthanasia and assisted dying. i mean, my point on this is i do wish we would not always say assisted dying because i think it's a euphemism. we're talking about killing, and there may be a moral reason to do it. uh, but l, moral reason to do it. uh, but i, i'm suspicious of the, um , i, i'm suspicious of the, um, the assisted dying lobby, and i think where it's been adopted in europe , you're already seeing europe, you're already seeing some concerns about what's happening th