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ethan never went out there, she said maybe he went out once. was a grossly negligent -- sometimes alone for hours, sometimes we even heard overnight possibly alone, and that then gross negligence caused the death of those four students once he got the gun and went to the school, and committed the mass shooting. it's important to see what her prior ortiz were we heard just a moment ago that ethan didn't want to go to the horse form, he didn't like going to the horse farm, and even live pictures being taken of him. she just testified to that. she will probably explain it, but that is where the prosecution is going. >> there was another moment where the defense was asking her about his best friend, and the type of relationship that they had, the amount of time that they spent together, and what happens to athens demeanor after that best friends moved away. explain the significance of that portion of the testimony? >> this best friend was the one that ethan wrote thousands of text to saying what he was going to do at the school. they went to school
ethan never went out there, she said maybe he went out once. was a grossly negligent -- sometimes alone for hours, sometimes we even heard overnight possibly alone, and that then gross negligence caused the death of those four students once he got the gun and went to the school, and committed the mass shooting. it's important to see what her prior ortiz were we heard just a moment ago that ethan didn't want to go to the horse form, he didn't like going to the horse farm, and even live pictures...
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, had you thought ethan killed anyone? >> no, i had not thought he had shot anyone at that point.'s secret did you believe he shot or injured anyone? >> no, no. i thought he would kill himself. >> okay. you find out the gun is missing so you think he has got the gun and turn it on himself. >> right. okay pick at that point you went to the substation, we saw the video. >> my husband had called when i got close to the house, he said the substation called and they want us to come down, they have my son. i picked him up on the way and we drove to the substation together. >> 20 say pick to up , who? >> my son was in custody . >> you picked up james . what was going through your mind at this point going from picking up james to the substation? >> i don't know. i asked my husband, is he alive? he said that i don't know, we are going down there. i did not know what to think. >> powerful moments as we listen to jennifer crumbley her reaction learning parachuting was unfolding at her son's school and his gun was missing from where i
, had you thought ethan killed anyone? >> no, i had not thought he had shot anyone at that point.'s secret did you believe he shot or injured anyone? >> no, no. i thought he would kill himself. >> okay. you find out the gun is missing so you think he has got the gun and turn it on himself. >> right. okay pick at that point you went to the substation, we saw the video. >> my husband had called when i got close to the house, he said the substation called and they...
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ethan or my son was going to go back to visit class. after he left, all four of us were in the meeting and they asked if we had any questions and we did not. i said, i'm going to go back to work and we left and i went to work and my husband did door dash. >> did you mean to be abrupt about ending the meeting? >> i didn't think i was abrupt. >> do you think you ended the meeting? >> it just automatically ended when they asked if i had any questions and i said no. >> okay. when there was testimony about that -- i'm sorry. strike that. [ indiscernible ] >> all rise for the jury. >> a critical moment in the trial as jennifer crumbley was testifying there because previously her boyfriend or the man she was having an affair with, she texted him saying she was worried that ethan was going to do something dumb. she texted him that the morning of the shooting and this is her talking about this meeting where she goes to the school, clearly they have some concerns. she certainly is aware her son has access to a gun, but ultimately, she does not ta
ethan or my son was going to go back to visit class. after he left, all four of us were in the meeting and they asked if we had any questions and we did not. i said, i'm going to go back to work and we left and i went to work and my husband did door dash. >> did you mean to be abrupt about ending the meeting? >> i didn't think i was abrupt. >> do you think you ended the meeting? >> it just automatically ended when they asked if i had any questions and i said no. >>...
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thank you to ethan and peter. [applause] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> the c-span bookshelf podcast feed makes it easy to listen to all of these bands -- c-span's podcast for future books in one place, so you can discover new authors and ideas. we make it convenient to listen to multiple episodes with critically acclaimed authors discussing history. listen to c-span's bookshelf podcast feed today. you can find the bookshelf podcast feed and all of our podcasts on the free c-span now mobile video app, or wherever you get your podcasts. and on our website c-span.org/podcasts. >> c-span's "washington journal" our live form involving you to discuss the latest issues of government, politics and public policy. from washington, d.c. and across the country. tuesday morning, budget and appropriations reporter aiden quickly discusses negotiations to avoid partial government shutdown on friday. then miles of the huds
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ben: ethan, what would you say? ethan: going back to provide historical perspective on the notion of student choice of courses and even getting back to the notion peter was talking about a few minutes ago of students wanting to think for themselves and what kind of basic knowledge and fundamentals are required for that, i think we have to go back to harvard at the turn of the 20th century under the presidency of charles william elliott, one of the most influential figures in the history of american education. he was president of harvard for 40 years and by the time he was done in 1909, i believe the number of required courses for harvard students was down to two. freshman writing and one other thing. he had a distinctive understanding of liberty on the way students should practice liberty by choosing courses and making mistakes as he said they would inevitably. but that whole idea of very wide choice of courses goes back a long way so there are philosophical roots to that that should be further investigated to add t
ben: ethan, what would you say? ethan: going back to provide historical perspective on the notion of student choice of courses and even getting back to the notion peter was talking about a few minutes ago of students wanting to think for themselves and what kind of basic knowledge and fundamentals are required for that, i think we have to go back to harvard at the turn of the 20th century under the presidency of charles william elliott, one of the most influential figures in the history of...
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ethan — sent this update. back in november 2021, ethan crumbly _ sent this update.t this update. back in november 2021, ethan crumbly was just - sent this update. back in november 2021, ethan crumbly was just 15 - 2021, ethan crumbly was just 15 years old when he shot dead four of his fellow students and injured seven others. four days before the shooting he had been handed a nine millimetre gun by his parents which became the murder weapon. testifying in court, childcare said it was the husband that purchased the handgun and it was intended for use at a local shooting range. it is alleged thatjennifer crumbley ignored her that jennifer crumbley ignored her son's thatjennifer crumbley ignored her son's downhill spiral into mental health problems. on the morning of the shooting the parents got called into the school after concerning drawings were discovered. they were told their son required counselling but they did not take him home and took no action and of course he went on to carry out that mass killing. prosecutors also say thatjennifer crumbley did nothing when
ethan — sent this update. back in november 2021, ethan crumbly _ sent this update.t this update. back in november 2021, ethan crumbly was just - sent this update. back in november 2021, ethan crumbly was just 15 - 2021, ethan crumbly was just 15 years old when he shot dead four of his fellow students and injured seven others. four days before the shooting he had been handed a nine millimetre gun by his parents which became the murder weapon. testifying in court, childcare said it was the...
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last week ethan had his dream come true by becoming officer ethan. >> how are, you ethan?e chief. are you going to work with us? >> yes. >> how about this? would you like to go with mom and your sisters? >> the tarrytown police chief himself picked up their newest reroute and brought him and his family to the police station for his swearing in. and he was treated like the vip he is, with a police escort with lights and sirens the entire way. and after being sworn in by mayor karen brown, ethan was given his own shield as well as a tour of the station. and of course every officer needs his own patrol car, so that was provided as well. police officer ethan hee arrow, tonight's heart of america. >>> and that's the overnight news for this wednesday. for some of you, the news continues. for others, check back later for "cbs mornings" and remember you can follow us online anytime at cbsnews.com. reporting from the nation's capital, i'm norah o'donnell. >>> this is "cbs news flash." i'm carissa lawson in new york. cbs news projects that donald trump has won the republican preside
last week ethan had his dream come true by becoming officer ethan. >> how are, you ethan?e chief. are you going to work with us? >> yes. >> how about this? would you like to go with mom and your sisters? >> the tarrytown police chief himself picked up their newest reroute and brought him and his family to the police station for his swearing in. and he was treated like the vip he is, with a police escort with lights and sirens the entire way. and after being sworn in by...
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she then texted to her son, ethan, "don't do it." how damning is that text? does it not show knowledge that she believed her son was capable of potentially shooting and killing his fellow students? >> it depends on what you believe the facts are. that wasn't my understanding from watching the testimony. the school brought her and the husband in and gave them the option of whether they wanted to remove him or not based upon those drawings. the best evidence that they gave them is that they don't force the kid out of the school. it's not the parents school. it's the school's school. they allowed him to return to the class. they department share the same concerns that the jury apparently thought that the parents should have had. second thing is she texted her own son right before the shootings. she didn't know the shooting was going down. she wanted to follow up? are you doing okay? yes, mom, i love you. i'm not defending her ability to be mother of the year. she was not. for was she perfect as a wife. her extra marital affairs were the number one thing that pro
she then texted to her son, ethan, "don't do it." how damning is that text? does it not show knowledge that she believed her son was capable of potentially shooting and killing his fellow students? >> it depends on what you believe the facts are. that wasn't my understanding from watching the testimony. the school brought her and the husband in and gave them the option of whether they wanted to remove him or not based upon those drawings. the best evidence that they gave them is...
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ethan, you are stud in: low-paid jobs. ethan, you are studying carpentry. _ low-paid jobs.- studying carpentry. are you likely to stay in wellingborough once you've qualified i to stay in wellingborough once you've qualifie— to stay in wellingborough once you've qualified i would, however, because the _ you've qualified i would, however, because the carpentry _ you've qualified i would, however, because the carpentry jobs - you've qualified i would, however, because the carpentry jobs are - you've qualified i would, however, j because the carpentry jobs are not because the carpentryjobs are not in wellingborough, if there was a carpentry— in wellingborough, if there was a carpentryjob in wellingborough, i wouldn't _ carpentryjob in wellingborough, i wouldn't have to go to a different place _ wouldn't have to go to a different place in _ wouldn't have to go to a different place in order to do it. we wouldn't have to go to a different place in order to do it.— place in order to do it. we have heard a number— place in order to do it. we have heard a number of— place in order t
ethan, you are stud in: low-paid jobs. ethan, you are studying carpentry. _ low-paid jobs.- studying carpentry. are you likely to stay in wellingborough once you've qualified i to stay in wellingborough once you've qualifie— to stay in wellingborough once you've qualified i would, however, because the _ you've qualified i would, however, because the carpentry _ you've qualified i would, however, because the carpentry jobs - you've qualified i would, however, because the carpentry jobs are -...
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last week, ethan had his dream come true by becoming officer ethan. >> how are you, ethan?to work with us? >> yes! >> how about this, would you like to go... >> norah: while the tarrytown police chief himself picked up their newest recruit and brought him and his family to the police station for his swearing-in. and he was treated like the vip he is with a police escort with lights and sirens the entire way, and after being sworn in by mayor karen brown, ethan was given his own shield as well as a tour of the station. and, of course, every officer needs his own patrol car, so that was provided as well. police officer ethan hierro, tonight's heart of america. and that is tonight's "cbs evening news." >>> hello, i'm sara donchey in for juliette. a place where countless memories have been made. >> when i was little me and my mom would come shopping, a thing on the weekends. >>> what could be the biggest blow to downtown san francisco yet. macy's announces it will close its flag ship store. what is next for a already struggling union square. >>> there is a string of craziness h
last week, ethan had his dream come true by becoming officer ethan. >> how are you, ethan?to work with us? >> yes! >> how about this, would you like to go... >> norah: while the tarrytown police chief himself picked up their newest recruit and brought him and his family to the police station for his swearing-in. and he was treated like the vip he is with a police escort with lights and sirens the entire way, and after being sworn in by mayor karen brown, ethan was given...
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last week, ethan had his dream come true by becoming officer ethan. >> how are you, ethan?to work with us? >> yes! >> how about this, would you like to go... >> norah: while the tarrytown police chief himself picked up their newest recruit and bite him and his family to the police station for his swearing-in. and he was treated like the vip he is with a police escort with lights and sirens the entire way, and after being sworn in by mayor karen brown, ethan was given his own shield as well as a tour of the station. and every officer needs his own patrol car, so that was provided as well. police officer ethan hero, tonight's heart of america. and i launched our campaign at this union hall. let's go win this thing! then we hit the road and never stopped. you shared with me your frustration at working harder to barely get by and afford a place to live. your fears for our democracy and freedoms and your dreams for yourself, your family, and the future. it is not too late to realize those dreams. i'm adam schiff, and i approve this message because together we can still get big t
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but the fans tried to compel ethan crumbley to take the stand. his lawyers intervened and said no way, because he has an appeal coming with respect to his sentencing of life without parole with the -- when the crime was committed by a minor. they were really handcuffed in that way, that he would take the stand and only plead the fifth. the judge pence that there's no reason for him to take the stand if he's not going to be able to answer any questions. but you bring up such a critical point, and i think we will see it in the appeal, and appeals are generally based on errors of law and things the judge should have let in or shouldn't have left in. that's one of the questions, by the jury, was can we make and the sunshine, based on evidence we did not see, specifically related to how did even get possession of a gun, they wanted to know how ethan came into possession of that's gone. that is critical, and the only person who can answer that question ethan crumbley. so, i do think the defense did what they needed to do. they tried to compel the testi
but the fans tried to compel ethan crumbley to take the stand. his lawyers intervened and said no way, because he has an appeal coming with respect to his sentencing of life without parole with the -- when the crime was committed by a minor. they were really handcuffed in that way, that he would take the stand and only plead the fifth. the judge pence that there's no reason for him to take the stand if he's not going to be able to answer any questions. but you bring up such a critical point,...
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and jury deliberations set to begin today in the manslaughter trial of jennifer crumbly, whose son ethan fatally shot four students at his high school. >> why the defense attorney claims every mother could be in crumbly's position, cracking down on suvs. >> the big city imposing hefty new parking fees, its latest effort to go green, and music's biggest night. >> all i want to do is keep being able to do this. i love it so much. >> how taylor swift made history at the grammys and her big announcement, plus another first at the grammys. celine dion's surprise appearance and another legend takes the stage friday night i crash your party. all the biggest moments from the 66th annual grammy awards sunday came trash me out again >> from abc news in new york, this is america, this morning. >> good monday morning, everyone . i'm andrew dymburt and i'm alison kosik. >> good morning to you. i'm in for rihanna. and we begin with a storm being called one of the most significant in california's history with an emergency now declared in eight counties, up to a foot of rain could fall. >> hurricane for
and jury deliberations set to begin today in the manslaughter trial of jennifer crumbly, whose son ethan fatally shot four students at his high school. >> why the defense attorney claims every mother could be in crumbly's position, cracking down on suvs. >> the big city imposing hefty new parking fees, its latest effort to go green, and music's biggest night. >> all i want to do is keep being able to do this. i love it so much. >> how taylor swift made history at the...
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school staff testified the parents were called to the school and urged to get ethan psychological help just hours before the shooting, but the crumbleys refused to take him home. jurors heard chilling entries from ethan's general one reading "i want help, but my parents don't listen to me." >> did you ever believe that your son needed mental health treatment? >> no. i mean, there was a couple of times where ethan had expressed anxiety, but not to a level where i felt he needed to go see a psychiatrist or mental health professional right away. no. >> reporter: crumbley told the husband bought the gun that was used in the rampage and that he was responsible for safely storing it. >> i didn't feel comfortable being in charge of that. it was more his thing so i let him handle that. >> reporter: she broke down as prosecutors showed jurors surveillance footage from the deadly rampage. jennifer crumbley has pleaded not guilty. her trial continues today. so the father, james', trial starts in about a month. and talking big picture here. legal experts have said if either are convicted this coul
school staff testified the parents were called to the school and urged to get ethan psychological help just hours before the shooting, but the crumbleys refused to take him home. jurors heard chilling entries from ethan's general one reading "i want help, but my parents don't listen to me." >> did you ever believe that your son needed mental health treatment? >> no. i mean, there was a couple of times where ethan had expressed anxiety, but not to a level where i felt he...
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ethan crumbley. it has the gun on it. it has blood on it and other words on it. your school officials, why would you if you are not school officials from a defense perspective, why would you not make increase with respect to gun? you go and grab a knapp sack. you have every opportunity to evaluate the knapp sack, instead, you giver it back. so there is blame all the way around. and then, the narrative of the meeting itself. in terms of the meeting they were having, what meeting when james the husband and the mother jennifer comes to the meeting she described it as a very matter of fact meeting. >> it wasn't the urgency. >> exactly. it is not described as i'm not going to take my son out of school. that issue, right, seems to be misplaced in terms of what the school suggesting she refused to take her son out of school. that wasn't the case at all. so i think certainly, the school had responsibility. last point. and that is that apparently, he was troubled also. ethan crumbley. and he was of course say
ethan crumbley. it has the gun on it. it has blood on it and other words on it. your school officials, why would you if you are not school officials from a defense perspective, why would you not make increase with respect to gun? you go and grab a knapp sack. you have every opportunity to evaluate the knapp sack, instead, you giver it back. so there is blame all the way around. and then, the narrative of the meeting itself. in terms of the meeting they were having, what meeting when james the...
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jennifer crumbley, the mother of ethan crumbley, found guilty of four counts of involuntary manslaughtertims. high school students madisyn baldwin, tate near, hanna st. julianna, and justin shilling. >> there were several family members of the victims of the school shooting who were in court, not just for the verdict but every single day of this trial, listening to all the evidence, listening to the testimony, the closing arguments. you can see that sense of relief when the verdict finally came down, they got those guilty verdicts. >> justin's father was in the courtroom when the verdict was read. >> it's not really a good feeling. it's not really about winning or losing. it's about making it apparent that, you know, this has to stop. >> byron: the family saying they hope this verdict sends a message. >> our children are never coming home. and everything that we're doing right now is focused on forcing account ability across the board. it's not a matter of if this happens again, it's a matter of when. >> byron: the case becoming a battleground in the debate over parental responsibility a
jennifer crumbley, the mother of ethan crumbley, found guilty of four counts of involuntary manslaughtertims. high school students madisyn baldwin, tate near, hanna st. julianna, and justin shilling. >> there were several family members of the victims of the school shooting who were in court, not just for the verdict but every single day of this trial, listening to all the evidence, listening to the testimony, the closing arguments. you can see that sense of relief when the verdict...
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her son, ethan, had pled guilty to the murders of four of his fellow students. i want to say their names again, because it is important for people to remember what was lost here. madisyn baldwin, tate myr, hannah st. julianna and justin shilling. i want to bring back adrienne broaddus, paul butler, lisa rubin. lisa, it was interesting to me when we looked at this jury, of the 17, 11 said they were parents, more than half had experiences with guns or had been exposed to guns. this was a verdict, given by people who know what it is to be a mom or dad, who know what it is to be around guns, and they found unanimously that she is guilty on all counts. >> and given two options by the prosecutors, and they didn't have to all agree on the theory of her guilt for involuntary manslaughter, they could find she was grossly negligent in the storage of the guns that were used to commit the murder, or they could find that she failed to exercise reasonable care as a parent with respect to failing to prevent the shooting.options. i think one thing that also struck me, chris, wa
her son, ethan, had pled guilty to the murders of four of his fellow students. i want to say their names again, because it is important for people to remember what was lost here. madisyn baldwin, tate myr, hannah st. julianna and justin shilling. i want to bring back adrienne broaddus, paul butler, lisa rubin. lisa, it was interesting to me when we looked at this jury, of the 17, 11 said they were parents, more than half had experiences with guns or had been exposed to guns. this was a verdict,...
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ethan's mental health needs. crumbly says she didn't think her son needed help, despite the prosecution pointing to ethan's journal, which included entries like my parents don't listen to me and i have zero help for my mental health problems, and it's causing me to shoot up the school. >> did you ever believe that your son needed mental health treatment, therapy, counseling, anything? >> no. i mean, there's a couple of times where ethan had expressed anxiety over taking tests. um anxiety about what he was going to do for after high school, whether it was college or military. so he expressed those those concerns to me. um but not not to a level where i felt he needed to go see a psychiatrist. >> did you ever deny him or say, no, i'm not going to take you to a mental health professional? did he ever ask, you know, crumbly denied having a role in buying or storing the gun and shifted responsibility to her husband, adding, i don't think i'm a failure as a parent. >> the day of the shooting, staff at the school met wi
ethan's mental health needs. crumbly says she didn't think her son needed help, despite the prosecution pointing to ethan's journal, which included entries like my parents don't listen to me and i have zero help for my mental health problems, and it's causing me to shoot up the school. >> did you ever believe that your son needed mental health treatment, therapy, counseling, anything? >> no. i mean, there's a couple of times where ethan had expressed anxiety over taking tests. um...
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we won't have any more ethan songs. maybe we can prevent these school shootings.and you know what, it's time for congress to force it. >> there's also the question right of mental health and that was part of this trial. for jennifer crumbley, whether she should have known her son was struggling. it's part of what happened in the case of the shooter who killed your daughter. is there something that can and should change that we need to identify these folks before they get their hands on guns? >> listen, i spent thursday last week, the fbi facility in west virginia. their threat assessment center and also touring where they conduct the enhanced background checks on under 21. what i'll say is this. every country has mental health issues. what makes america different is the easy access to weapons and numbers of adults who are irresponsible when it comes to locking them up. here's what needs to change. we need legislation to ensure people lock them up. we do need parents held accountable, but i will also tell you, the threat assessment the only as good as the informati
we won't have any more ethan songs. maybe we can prevent these school shootings.and you know what, it's time for congress to force it. >> there's also the question right of mental health and that was part of this trial. for jennifer crumbley, whether she should have known her son was struggling. it's part of what happened in the case of the shooter who killed your daughter. is there something that can and should change that we need to identify these folks before they get their hands on...
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i mean, there is a couple of times where ethan had expressed anxiety. not to a level where i felt he needed to go see a psychiatrist or mental health professional. >> reporter: she testified school administrators downplayed concerns, including in a meeting with ethan's guidance counselor the morning of the shooting. >> he told us that he didn't feel my son was a risk >> reporter: shawn hopkins telling the jury monday -- >> i felt it was better for him to be around peers and people who are his age than to be home alone. >> reporter: prosecutors say both of ethan's parents bought him the gun used in the shooting, but today, crumbley saying her husband was responsible for it >> who is responsible for storing the gun? >> my husband is it was more his thing. >> reporter: her testimony following an emotional morning. several people in the courtroom crying as prosecutors played surveillance video of the deadly shooting. >> because the situation was active and the killing hadn't stopped, you can't stop and render aid. >> reporter: defense attorneys finished que
i mean, there is a couple of times where ethan had expressed anxiety. not to a level where i felt he needed to go see a psychiatrist or mental health professional. >> reporter: she testified school administrators downplayed concerns, including in a meeting with ethan's guidance counselor the morning of the shooting. >> he told us that he didn't feel my son was a risk >> reporter: shawn hopkins telling the jury monday -- >> i felt it was better for him to be around peers...
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this is three year old ethan hopper, who somehow got himself stuck inside this hello kitty claw machine. >> and this morning, his dad said that ethan had a fantastic time. >> he's having the time of his life. >> and then reality sunk in at the point. >> how am i going to get him out? oh, that's really the only way police help with that by shattering the glass. >> timothy says that they've since walked past the machine, and that ethan has assured him, quote, don't worry, dad, i won't do it again because he's getting bigger. >> so he's not going to be able to fit. i'm sure that was the not fun part. >> when the glass came in. anyway, next to the pizza hut going viral. yes >> so someone typed up this notice that was taped to the door, perhaps too quickly, explaining why the dining room would be closed. well, it's closed, it says because of unforeseen circumcisions. >> oh my god, circumstances. i hope unforeseen, unforeseen scene circum situations. >> do you think that was just maybe a joke? >> i hope so, i think it was a joke. i think they meant to do that. i hope so, pizza. >> pizza. >> p
this is three year old ethan hopper, who somehow got himself stuck inside this hello kitty claw machine. >> and this morning, his dad said that ethan had a fantastic time. >> he's having the time of his life. >> and then reality sunk in at the point. >> how am i going to get him out? oh, that's really the only way police help with that by shattering the glass. >> timothy says that they've since walked past the machine, and that ethan has assured him, quote, don't...
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prosecutors pointing to what ethan crumbley wrote in his journal about his parents. "my parents don't listen to me. i have zero help for mental problems, and it's causing me to shoot up the school." abc's trevor ault leading us off from michigan tonight. >> do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give so help you god? >> i do. >> reporter: tonight, unprecedented testimony from the first parent of a school shooter to face charges herself. >> that was the hardest thing i had to -- to stomach, is that my child harmed and killed other people. i wish he would have killed us instead. >> reporter: jennifer crumbley taking the stand in her own defense, visibly nervous to the point of breaking out in hives, saying before her son murdered four of his classmates she had no reason to believe he was dangerous. >> of course i looked back after this all happened. and i've asked myself if i would have done anything differently, and i wouldn't have. >> reporter: telling the jury why she frantically texted her son "don't do it" after the 2021 rampage at oxford high school
prosecutors pointing to what ethan crumbley wrote in his journal about his parents. "my parents don't listen to me. i have zero help for mental problems, and it's causing me to shoot up the school." abc's trevor ault leading us off from michigan tonight. >> do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give so help you god? >> i do. >> reporter: tonight, unprecedented testimony from the first parent of a school shooter to face charges herself. >> that...
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we also heard her answer questions about discipline and ethan crumbley's mental health.bers of the jury her son had moments of anxiety, for example, before a big test, and he also worried about getting into college after high school. wondering if his grades were good enough or if he should take the route of joining the military. she said it was never anything that alarmed her to rise to the level where she believed her son needed a mental health professional. she also testified saying her son never asked to speak with a mental health professional, and she says she thought they were close. >> i thought we were pretty close. we would talk. we would, i mean, we did a lot of things together. i trusted him. and i felt like i had an open door, and he can come to me about anything. i mean, i felt as a family we were -- the three of us were really close. >> reporter: and some tearful moments inside of the courtroom before jennifer took the stand in her own defense, right before the prosecution rested its case. one of its witnesses talked about this 22-page journal that was in et
we also heard her answer questions about discipline and ethan crumbley's mental health.bers of the jury her son had moments of anxiety, for example, before a big test, and he also worried about getting into college after high school. wondering if his grades were good enough or if he should take the route of joining the military. she said it was never anything that alarmed her to rise to the level where she believed her son needed a mental health professional. she also testified saying her son...
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if you start where this did start, which is the drawing, you saw the drawing where ethan crumbley hashe gun and he says i want help and there's blood, they're called into this meeting. from her perspective, the school says as we see the picture there, it's no big deal, get him help within 48 hours, do you want to take him home, the decision is made to leave him there. she leaves. that's her description of it. also, with respect to that, the school has access to the backpack and, of course, they give it back to him, not searching or checking it. the school's explanation, there was no reasonable suspicion. if there's reasonable suspicion to call the parents because you're concerned about the son, wouldn't it be reasonable suspicion to check his backpack? on the issue of his mental health maladies, the hard description is i had no notice, i didn't know. it looked like a regular family. there were indications at the school that he was sleeping, that things were amiss, his life was a mistake. none of that communicated to her. so to the extent that she was able to put these things in contex
if you start where this did start, which is the drawing, you saw the drawing where ethan crumbley hashe gun and he says i want help and there's blood, they're called into this meeting. from her perspective, the school says as we see the picture there, it's no big deal, get him help within 48 hours, do you want to take him home, the decision is made to leave him there. she leaves. that's her description of it. also, with respect to that, the school has access to the backpack and, of course, they...
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and ethan saw that in me. >> jimmy: well, congratulations on your all your dreams coming true. >> ethanive-away dolls" opens in februarys february 23rd. thank you, beanie. we'll be back with michael buble and jason derulo. ♪ a doctor or an engineer. those are good careers! but i chose a different path. first, as mayor and then in the legislature. i enshrined abortion rights in our california constitution. in the face of trump, i strengthened hate crime laws and lowered the costs for the middle class. now i'm running to bring the fight to congress. you were always stubborn. and on that note, i'm evan low, and i approve this message. >> jimmy: thanks to brie larson and beanie feldstein. apologies to matt damon. "nightline" is next, but first, here with the song "spicy margarita," michael buble and jason derulo! [ cheering and applause ] ♪ you're my spicy margarita babe ♪ ♪ burn my tongue make me shake mix it up or give it to me straight ♪ ♪ turn me on make me say ♪ ♪ oh oh oh cabo met that girl in cabo wearin' ferragamo ♪ ♪ we was goin shot for shot for shot like desperados snuck into the
and ethan saw that in me. >> jimmy: well, congratulations on your all your dreams coming true. >> ethanive-away dolls" opens in februarys february 23rd. thank you, beanie. we'll be back with michael buble and jason derulo. ♪ a doctor or an engineer. those are good careers! but i chose a different path. first, as mayor and then in the legislature. i enshrined abortion rights in our california constitution. in the face of trump, i strengthened hate crime laws and lowered the...
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ethan was in the gun store, but we don't know how he got the gun that morning.e know his mother, jennifer, went to work. we know that james took him to school, but hoe he got the gun in the back pack, we do not know. >>> what impact could this have on the impact of the father's trial set for march? >> reporter: very good question. a lot of people are speculating, if she is found not guilty, he would proceed to trial. if she's found guilty, would there be a plea deal? would the prosecution even offer it? don't know, but it could impact that march trial. jean casarez, thank you very much. >>> coming up. people in the capitol are on edge about the surging violent crime rates here in the city. >>> the escalating rates of violent crimes here in washington, d.c. have some residents clamoring for law enforcement and local leaders to do much more to keep them safe. here's cnn's gabe cohen. >> reporter: a violent carjacking spree, the latest senseless crime to rock the nation's capital, shattering a family. >> it's just the numbness to know this is the place where he act
ethan was in the gun store, but we don't know how he got the gun that morning.e know his mother, jennifer, went to work. we know that james took him to school, but hoe he got the gun in the back pack, we do not know. >>> what impact could this have on the impact of the father's trial set for march? >> reporter: very good question. a lot of people are speculating, if she is found not guilty, he would proceed to trial. if she's found guilty, would there be a plea deal? would the...
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ethan had drawn of a gun with the words the thoughts won't stop. help me. the world is dead.y life is useless. but his parents declined to take him home. crumbly says she thought it would be better for him to stay at school rather than be home alone. he later used the gun in his backpack to fire at students , her attorney said. crumbly was a vigilant mom whose son was a skillful manipulator. >> i am asking that you find jennifer crumbly not guilty, not just for jennifer crumbly, but for every mother who's out there doing the best they can, who could easily be in her shoes if convicted. >> jennifer crumbly faces up to 60 years in prison. her husband goes on trial next month. >> well, fans of the us men's national soccer team are already making plans for the summer of 2026. that's when the world cup comes back to america. it's north america's, so you know, mexico, canada and the u.s. with the championship game, though, set to now be played at metlife stadium just outside of new york in new jersey on july 19th, hoping and praying that the u.s. men's national team will be in that
ethan had drawn of a gun with the words the thoughts won't stop. help me. the world is dead.y life is useless. but his parents declined to take him home. crumbly says she thought it would be better for him to stay at school rather than be home alone. he later used the gun in his backpack to fire at students , her attorney said. crumbly was a vigilant mom whose son was a skillful manipulator. >> i am asking that you find jennifer crumbly not guilty, not just for jennifer crumbly, but for...
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they asked how did ethan get that gun, and of course we don't know how ethan got the gun. that was never introduced into evidence, that still a big mystery in this case. they also ask about the legal definition of -- that they had to consider in terms of making the determination about guilt or not guilty. and that was about this gross negligence standard. they were having some problems trying to understand how to interpret that legal standard. the judge gave them the answer that we expected him to give, which is basically repeating what he'd already done in the jury instructions. so we know this has not been an easy decision for this jury, and whatever the decision is, it's one that they have gone through, i would believe, painstaking effort to get to. so it's going to be curious to see, jennifer did not put on any witnesses. she's the only witness in her defense, it'll be interesting to see if her testimony alone was enough to cause this jury to say that she's not guilty of these charges. >> i just want to let our viewers know, that is jennifer crumbley that just walked i
they asked how did ethan get that gun, and of course we don't know how ethan got the gun. that was never introduced into evidence, that still a big mystery in this case. they also ask about the legal definition of -- that they had to consider in terms of making the determination about guilt or not guilty. and that was about this gross negligence standard. they were having some problems trying to understand how to interpret that legal standard. the judge gave them the answer that we expected him...
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tried to get the testimony of ethan crumbley, admitted. hard to make that an issue. you can't compel testimony. he's pled guilty but he's appealing his verdict. the other issue related to the sense of these records. there were psychiatric records that the parents didn't know. jennifer crumbley wanted those admitted. they were not. she was cross-excross-examined a swinger. all of that will play big. we'll see what the appeal holds. it will be appealed. >> joey jackson, thanks so much. >>> standing by for the release of the report from the special counsel investigation and president biden's handling of classified documents. >>> 500 mudslides in los angeles area alone. nine people have died across the state. >>> a search is under way for a missing u.s. military helicopter in california. five marines onboard. what more can they share with us? >> information is scarce at the moment. we are getting a new statement in from the marines, saying the court is searching for five u.s. marines to squadron 361. marine group 316. and these marines were flying a ch helicopter from th
tried to get the testimony of ethan crumbley, admitted. hard to make that an issue. you can't compel testimony. he's pled guilty but he's appealing his verdict. the other issue related to the sense of these records. there were psychiatric records that the parents didn't know. jennifer crumbley wanted those admitted. they were not. she was cross-excross-examined a swinger. all of that will play big. we'll see what the appeal holds. it will be appealed. >> joey jackson, thanks so much....
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she writes back, ethan, don't do it. now, what she says, don't do it was, i don't want you to kill yourself, right? what does she do to stop him from killing himself? she was negligent in preventing her son suicide, or preventing her son's school shooting. needless to say, she was aware because that don't do it, she knew he had a fire arm, and she knew he was going to use it to do something, and still did nothing about it. this whole idea that she was completely ignorant about what was going on -- >> there was no history of violence with respect to him exactly any violence upon anyone else at any time -- >> okay -- >> no indication in school that he believed anybody, that he got involved in any violence with anybody at all. the only issues we're internal as to him. we are talking about, foreseeability, as it relates to murder. that is a tough -- >> cumulative bucket of stuff! he is googling at school how to procure ammunition. he gets in trouble for it, and what this is montes? she says, ha, lol, just don't get caught ne
she writes back, ethan, don't do it. now, what she says, don't do it was, i don't want you to kill yourself, right? what does she do to stop him from killing himself? she was negligent in preventing her son suicide, or preventing her son's school shooting. needless to say, she was aware because that don't do it, she knew he had a fire arm, and she knew he was going to use it to do something, and still did nothing about it. this whole idea that she was completely ignorant about what was going on...
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ethan crumbley was a 15 at the time of the attack. he was sentenced last year to life in prison without parole and tried as an adult i should note. the prosecution is arguing, his mother and father will also soon be tried as well, are also responsible for the murders that happened that day. jennifer crumbley is accused of gross negligence, including for failing to get worse on the mental health treatment he needed, despite many warning signs, warning signs that she argued today she didn't see. that includes disturbing texts that we saw that buyer, sun journal, entries violent drawings as well. some of those were shown in court today, including one where ethan crumbley had written, i quote from now, i had zero help from my mental problems, it is causing me to shoot up the school. another chilling one that said, i want, help but my parents won't listen to me. prosecutors offer evidence which they argue -- she did know about what her plan to do. this is what you said when she was questioned from her own attorney. >> are you a failure as
ethan crumbley was a 15 at the time of the attack. he was sentenced last year to life in prison without parole and tried as an adult i should note. the prosecution is arguing, his mother and father will also soon be tried as well, are also responsible for the murders that happened that day. jennifer crumbley is accused of gross negligence, including for failing to get worse on the mental health treatment he needed, despite many warning signs, warning signs that she argued today she didn't see....
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ethan crumbley was 15 at the time of the attack. he was sentenced last year to life in prison without parole. the prosecution is arguing that his mother and father, james crumbley, who will be tried soon as well, are also responsible for the murders that happened that day. jennifer crumbley is accused of gross negligence, including failing to get her son the mental health treatment she needed, despite warning signs, warning signs she claims she didn't see. that includes disturbing texts that were sent by her son, journal entries, including one where ethan crumbley had written, i have zero help for my mental problems and it's causing me to shoot up the school. another chilling one that said, i want help, but my parents won't listen to me. prosecutors offered evidence, which they argue shows that she did know about what her son planned to do. this is what she said when she was being questioned, i should note, by her own attorney. >> are you a failure as a parent? >> i don't think i'm a failure as a parent. but at that time, i guess i
ethan crumbley was 15 at the time of the attack. he was sentenced last year to life in prison without parole. the prosecution is arguing that his mother and father, james crumbley, who will be tried soon as well, are also responsible for the murders that happened that day. jennifer crumbley is accused of gross negligence, including failing to get her son the mental health treatment she needed, despite warning signs, warning signs she claims she didn't see. that includes disturbing texts that...
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crumbly fue procesado como adulto y sentenciado a cadena perpetua. >> la defensa argumento que ethanil manipulador y que el almacenamiento de las armas era responsabilidad de su padre james crumbly, quien tendra su propio juicio en marzo. >> habia una montana de e evidencia. >> para este abogado no vinculado al caso, los fiscales demostraron la negligencia de ambos padres. >> tenia problemas psicologicos bien profundos viendo diablos escribiendo cosas de sangre y de padres no hicieron nada sobre nada de eso. >> jennifer crumbly sera sentenciada el 19 de abril y enfrenta hasta 15 anos en prision por cada cargo. >> se trata de un caso inedito porque es la primera vez en estados unidos que se acusa de esta manera al padre de un menor que cometio un tiroteo escolar. >> hay mas de un culpable cuando estas cosas suceden. >> para el padre de joaquin oliver, que murio en 2018 durante el tiroteo escolar de parkland florida el veredicto es una victoria importante aunque la lucha por cambiar las leyes y restringir el acceso a las armas continua. >> la cultura del arma se ha protegido tanto en e
crumbly fue procesado como adulto y sentenciado a cadena perpetua. >> la defensa argumento que ethanil manipulador y que el almacenamiento de las armas era responsabilidad de su padre james crumbly, quien tendra su propio juicio en marzo. >> habia una montana de e evidencia. >> para este abogado no vinculado al caso, los fiscales demostraron la negligencia de ambos padres. >> tenia problemas psicologicos bien profundos viendo diablos escribiendo cosas de sangre y de...
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crumbley describing ethan as quiet with few friends, but never thinking he was a danger to others. >>lth treatment, therapy and counseling, anything >> no. separately. prosecutors say t i felt like i had an open door he could come to me about anything. >> both are charged with involuntary manslaughter he will be tried separately. prosecutors say together they bought ethan the gun used in the shooting, playing this video of jennifer taking her son to a shooting range but crumbley says her husband was in charge for storing the gun. >> i just didn't feel comfortable being in charge of that. >> reporter: claiming ethan's school down played concerns that he was a risk. the morning of the shooting administrators called a meeting with ethan and his parents to discuss a disturbing drawing he had made of a gun with the phrases "blood everywhere" and "the thoughts won't stop help me. testifying monday why he supported keeping ethan at school. >> i felt it was better for him to be around peers and people who are his age than to be home alone. >> reporter: crumbley, who earlier cried alongside he
crumbley describing ethan as quiet with few friends, but never thinking he was a danger to others. >>lth treatment, therapy and counseling, anything >> no. separately. prosecutors say t i felt like i had an open door he could come to me about anything. >> both are charged with involuntary manslaughter he will be tried separately. prosecutors say together they bought ethan the gun used in the shooting, playing this video of jennifer taking her son to a shooting range but...
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back in november2021, ethan sent this update.is fellow students and wounded seven others. four days before the shooting, he had been given a handgun by his parents as a present, a nine millimetre weapon that of course became the murder weapon. testifying in court jennifer crumbley said it was a husband i purchased that handgun and that it was intended for use at a local shooting range. prosecutors allege thatjennifer crumbley allege that jennifer crumbley ignored allege thatjennifer crumbley ignored her sons downhill spiral into serious mental health problems, on the morning of the shooting, her hannah husband got called into the school after some concerning drawings were discovered. there, they were told that their son required counselling but they didn't take him home and took no action, of course, he went on to carry out that masculine. prosecutors also say thatjennifer crumbley did nothing when her son asked for help with his mental health problems. he told her that he saw demons in the house, she said, in court, that she tho
back in november2021, ethan sent this update.is fellow students and wounded seven others. four days before the shooting, he had been given a handgun by his parents as a present, a nine millimetre weapon that of course became the murder weapon. testifying in court jennifer crumbley said it was a husband i purchased that handgun and that it was intended for use at a local shooting range. prosecutors allege thatjennifer crumbley allege that jennifer crumbley ignored allege thatjennifer crumbley...
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prosecutor said this, she says the mother of ethan has done the unthinkable.blood everywhere and thoughts won't stop, help me, my life isl useless and drew the gun. she declined to tell the principal he owned a gun. had she spoken up, hannah, justin, madison might still be here, they are dead because of her failure to stop this. fact i go back to over and over. >> emily: fascinating point. the way the defense is characterizing this, they are saying she is devastated. how would she have been able to foresee kayleigh is right, but for moment, how is she still able to foresee, she didn't, that he would pull the trigger. there was 2001 case where owners of dog held liable for murder for the dog attacking and murdering their neighbor. the novel aspect is holding the person in charge criminally liable for these parents, do you feel you see this happen something >> steve: i remember at the time being struck by details. i don't know if it was da, or who, it was striking and i thought, this is a really important moment, teachable moment as we would say, for parental re
prosecutor said this, she says the mother of ethan has done the unthinkable.blood everywhere and thoughts won't stop, help me, my life isl useless and drew the gun. she declined to tell the principal he owned a gun. had she spoken up, hannah, justin, madison might still be here, they are dead because of her failure to stop this. fact i go back to over and over. >> emily: fascinating point. the way the defense is characterizing this, they are saying she is devastated. how would she have...
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they said they couldn't take ethan because they both needed to go back to work.ot dead four of when his classmates and wounded seven others. jennifer's attorneys had earring ofd she couldn't possibly have foreseen the violence her son would turn to and holding her responsible would set a dangerous precedent for parents everywhere. prosecutors argued text messages between the mother and son showed she could and should have taken action when her son made clear his mental struggles and they argued she was more interested in her two horses and her extramarital affair than she was in her son's well-being. a point emphasized by a parent of one of ethan's victims. >> he wouldn't have had to go through any others if you had just done your job as a parent. you can't foresee certain things like this and you don't really know -- i don't know. i'm not the hyper vigilant dad but you have to adhere to the warning signs from your children. >> she faces 15 years in prison on each of the four counts of involuntary manslaughter. her husband, ethan's father, james, will go on trial
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the school also did not escalate this and search ethan's backpack. so all of those factors are going to be incredibly important as the jury deliberates. >> and the prosecution is trying to exhibit or try to show that there was real willful negligence here by crumbley. they begin deliberations on monday. thank you so much. >> thank you, fred. >>> up next, california bracing for severe weather. a new and more powerful storm will bring flooding and heavy mountain snows in the next couple of days. how state officials are preparing. straight ahead. >>> the second of two powerful atmospheric rivers is set to soak california this weekend, bringing torrential rainfall. nearly 40 million people are under flood watches across the state and as the storms threaten to bring flash flooding, mudslides and damaging wind gusts, it's hard to prepare for any of this. severe conditions leading to terrifying situations like this. a man trapped in a storm channel had to be rescued by firefighters. he was taken to the hospital in stable condition. cnn national corresponden
the school also did not escalate this and search ethan's backpack. so all of those factors are going to be incredibly important as the jury deliberates. >> and the prosecution is trying to exhibit or try to show that there was real willful negligence here by crumbley. they begin deliberations on monday. thank you so much. >> thank you, fred. >>> up next, california bracing for severe weather. a new and more powerful storm will bring flooding and heavy mountain snows in the...
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ethan said i want to go back to class. that is how it ended up. >> and they made it sound like jennifer crumbley was told to bring ethan home and she said that is not what the testimony revealed and that came from school, so the school also had some power about what to do next in the face of that drawing, and they did not escalate it to the next level which would have triggered a search of his backpack. that speaks to causation. >> that is such an important point in all of this. as we are trying to the sign who is responsible we have a question of not just the parents but the school. how does this have ripple effects for who could be brought into a case like this? >> the community, the families they have been very concerned about the response because the school knew that he was researching bullets. they knew that he had been having violent tendencies and it was in his writings in english class. he was looking at a video of someone shooting someone else they did not tell, for the majority of those things, they did not tell
ethan said i want to go back to class. that is how it ended up. >> and they made it sound like jennifer crumbley was told to bring ethan home and she said that is not what the testimony revealed and that came from school, so the school also had some power about what to do next in the face of that drawing, and they did not escalate it to the next level which would have triggered a search of his backpack. that speaks to causation. >> that is such an important point in all of this. as...
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ethan wanted to go back to class. he was given his backpack and went back to class. then a couple hours later the backpack had the gun. >> about that gun, did she testify how it was or was not locked away? >> reporter: well, she said she wasn't there when it was purchased the day after thanksgiving. she wasn't into gun. she was into horses. her husband hid the gun. she didn't know where it was. we do know that on the day of the shooting husband went home afterwards. there was the gun case open on their bed in the master bedroom and the gun was missing and that's when he called the police and turned in his son. >> all right, jean casarez, thank you so much. appreciate it. let's bring in attorney and legal commentator ariva martin. did jennifer crumbley's testimony hurt or help her? >> her attorney said she would take the stand and testify. she did that today. she had a lot to explain. many of the text messages we've learned about in this trial, many were troubling. the text message about him hallucinating and believing that people were in his home and the text message
ethan wanted to go back to class. he was given his backpack and went back to class. then a couple hours later the backpack had the gun. >> about that gun, did she testify how it was or was not locked away? >> reporter: well, she said she wasn't there when it was purchased the day after thanksgiving. she wasn't into gun. she was into horses. her husband hid the gun. she didn't know where it was. we do know that on the day of the shooting husband went home afterwards. there was the...
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. >> reporter: jennifer scrucrumby on the stand testifying about her relationship with her son ethan and pushing back on the core argument that leading up to the shooting at oxford high school she ignored key signs her son was struggling >> did you ever believe your son needed mental health treatment >> no, i mean, there was a couple times where ethan has expressed anxiety, not to a level where i thought he needed to go see a psychiatrist or mental health professional >> reporter: she testified school administrators down-played concerns >> i felt it was better for him to be around peers and people who are his age than to be home alone. >> reporter: prosecutors say both of ethan's parents bought him the gun used in the shooting, but crumbley saying her husband was responsible for it >> who is responsible for storing the gun? >> my husband is it was more his thing. >> reporter: her testimony following an emotional morning several people in the courtroom crying, as prosecutors played surveillance video of the deadly shooting >> because the situation was active, and the killing hadn't st
. >> reporter: jennifer scrucrumby on the stand testifying about her relationship with her son ethan and pushing back on the core argument that leading up to the shooting at oxford high school she ignored key signs her son was struggling >> did you ever believe your son needed mental health treatment >> no, i mean, there was a couple times where ethan has expressed anxiety, not to a level where i thought he needed to go see a psychiatrist or mental health professional >>...
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ethan and his father were at the house. ethan's father took him to school that day.the video of the father dropping him off. but we do not know how he got that gun and put it in his backpack. conceivably there is only one person who knows that and it is ethan crumbley. and he did not testify because he asserted along with his attorneys the fifth amendment right against self- incrimination. >>> so much for this jury to debate in michigan. thank you for all of your reporting throughout. >>> >>> quiet luxury is out something called loud budgeting is in. we will tell you about this new viral trend that apparently started as a joke. stay with us. two leading candidates for senate. two very different visions for california. steve garvey, the leading republican, is too conservative for california. he voted for trump twice and supported republicans for years, including far right conservatives. adam schiff, the leading democrat, defended democracy against trump and the insurrectionists. he helped build affordable housing, lower drug costs, and bring good jobs back home. the c
ethan and his father were at the house. ethan's father took him to school that day.the video of the father dropping him off. but we do not know how he got that gun and put it in his backpack. conceivably there is only one person who knows that and it is ethan crumbley. and he did not testify because he asserted along with his attorneys the fifth amendment right against self- incrimination. >>> so much for this jury to debate in michigan. thank you for all of your reporting throughout....
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if you're going to try ethan as an adult, then you have to treat him legally that way. i don't think this is going to have much of a deterrent effect, but many parents will struggle with children who go through phases and then they end up just as phases. they have difficult teenage lives and then em emerge. had a handful of cases it turns into horrific tragedies. it shouldn't be legal precedence. >> in this particular case what really was an issue was how the gun was provided to the disturbed child and the negligence with which that was treated, and all the signs that were there that the child was disturbed. so that's why i bring the actual gun issue. this isn't about -- yes, there is, of course, a limited amount sometimes that parents can do when their children are suffering and in pain and act out. but the issue here is the weapon. >> i suggest there's another issue, the unwillingness to punish until it's too late. you all may have heard of the term the school to prison pipeline. we've had a decade and a half in which people have been incredibly anxious about expellin
if you're going to try ethan as an adult, then you have to treat him legally that way. i don't think this is going to have much of a deterrent effect, but many parents will struggle with children who go through phases and then they end up just as phases. they have difficult teenage lives and then em emerge. had a handful of cases it turns into horrific tragedies. it shouldn't be legal precedence. >> in this particular case what really was an issue was how the gun was provided to the...
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ethan one of the top prize, the big hug from his parents. >> is that all he went home with? >> give the kid a toy, come on. are you surprised there is no like safety exit? i feel like ethan is not the first child that has tried but. >> modern problems come up with modern solutions. if you want it that bad, you should not listen to me. that is why i don't have kids yet. >> all right, the lead with jake tapper starts right now. >>> a jury will soon decide if
ethan one of the top prize, the big hug from his parents. >> is that all he went home with? >> give the kid a toy, come on. are you surprised there is no like safety exit? i feel like ethan is not the first child that has tried but. >> modern problems come up with modern solutions. if you want it that bad, you should not listen to me. that is why i don't have kids yet. >> all right, the lead with jake tapper starts right now. >>> a jury will soon decide if
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. >> right and they were caught off guard >> seth: this is ethan cohen, one of the cohen brothers -- and they -- the cohen brothers have some of the best women in law enforcement history, right they have holly hunter from "raising arizona" and, of course, frances mcdormand from "fargo." so you're entering - [ cheers and applause >> i bow down to them. >> seth: a very nice pantheon of people >> i cannot believe it i mean if you get a script from one of the cohen brothers -- >> seth: yes >> -- it's like, i'll play a tree like i don't care what i'm doing. but when i got the audition and it was like to play a cop, it just has that special kind of -- i don't know and to be in the lineage of those women -- >> seth: yes >> -- is surreal and then, it's ethan cohen and his wife, tricia cooke and together they've created this, like -- everything you know and love about the cohen brothers, like that tone, that really specific comedic -- >> seth: yes >> -- funny, action, quirky, raunchy tone but then, trisha brought this super, like, clear female empowerment side to it and to play one of their c
. >> right and they were caught off guard >> seth: this is ethan cohen, one of the cohen brothers -- and they -- the cohen brothers have some of the best women in law enforcement history, right they have holly hunter from "raising arizona" and, of course, frances mcdormand from "fargo." so you're entering - [ cheers and applause >> i bow down to them. >> seth: a very nice pantheon of people >> i cannot believe it i mean if you get a script from...
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if this leads to ethan crumbley's mom being convicted, what does that change? >> i think even the charges themselves are unprecedented. prosecutors around this country could look at these charges. if there is a conviction that tells every -- of course, the authorities in michigan, but prosecutors around this country can look at where a teenager gets a gun and shoots, could be in the middle of the street, right, at passerbys, where did they get? what were the parents doing? were they grossly negligent? the theory is they were grossly negligent with their child. also the theory they had a legal duty to exercise caution. it was foreseeable in the eyes of the prosecutor that beyond a reasonable doubt this -- these parents knew a mass shooting could happen. >> so much more to come on this. jeanne, thank you so much. appreciate it. >>> new overnight, a fiery plane crash into a florida mobile home park leaving several people dead. video showing a giant pillar of flames and smoke. you can see it right there. police say they found four trailer homes on fire and the plan
if this leads to ethan crumbley's mom being convicted, what does that change? >> i think even the charges themselves are unprecedented. prosecutors around this country could look at these charges. if there is a conviction that tells every -- of course, the authorities in michigan, but prosecutors around this country can look at where a teenager gets a gun and shoots, could be in the middle of the street, right, at passerbys, where did they get? what were the parents doing? were they...
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they said they couldn't take ethan because they both needed to go back to work.later ethan crumbley shot dead four of his classmates and wounded seven others using a gun, his parents had bought him. jennifer crumbly's attorneys had argued she couldn't possibly have foreseen the violence her son would turn to and that holding her responsible would set a dangerous precedent for parents everywhere. but the jury has now set that precedent. jennifer crumbly faces 15 years in prison on each of the four counts of involuntary manslaughter. her husband, ethan's father james, will go on trial next month facing the same four charges. bret? >> bret: jonathan, thank you. let's get some legal analysis on this and the other big legal story tonight. jonathan turley, professor at george washington university law school. jonathan, good evening. this is unique. >> it is and quite frankly it's troubling there are millions of families across this country that have children with emotional problems. and what was being declared here is that this mother had a reasonably foreseeable situa
they said they couldn't take ethan because they both needed to go back to work.later ethan crumbley shot dead four of his classmates and wounded seven others using a gun, his parents had bought him. jennifer crumbly's attorneys had argued she couldn't possibly have foreseen the violence her son would turn to and that holding her responsible would set a dangerous precedent for parents everywhere. but the jury has now set that precedent. jennifer crumbly faces 15 years in prison on each of the...
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we've seen images of ethan on his last day of school.saw pictures when he first received braces. we've seen the family photographed together smiling after purchasing a christmas tree, and jennifer crumbley answered questions about discipline and ethan's mental health. telling members of the jury her son had moments of anxiety after a big test, and was concerned about life after high school, whether or not he would have the grades to enter college or should take the route of joining the military. jennifer crumbley testified that there was nothing that ever rose to the level of her son needing to seek mental health professionals. >> let me read a portion of an op ed from the "new york times," the prosecution of the parents seems to be motivated at least partly by the grief of a local community. our politicians are ineffective. we can't agree on what's causing the bloodshed. we can't fix the interlinked failures behind the slaughter but we can see schools and parents and now we can drag the unsympathetic crumbleys into the criminal court. a
we've seen images of ethan on his last day of school.saw pictures when he first received braces. we've seen the family photographed together smiling after purchasing a christmas tree, and jennifer crumbley answered questions about discipline and ethan's mental health. telling members of the jury her son had moments of anxiety after a big test, and was concerned about life after high school, whether or not he would have the grades to enter college or should take the route of joining the...