she said that trump absolutely understood evan corcoran, another lawyer, and witness to that meeting. ayman, both of them were forced to talk because a federal judge ruled that attorney-client privilege is overruled because there's probable cause to think that trump used his attorneys to commit crimes and to show you how desperate trump's for lawyers now, jennifer little will certainly be a witness against him in the mar-a-lago case is still representing trump in fulton county. >> one of the bar one of the bizarre things, the tower, and it's not to get into donald trump's mindset and understand it. why does he do these things in public. if we played the soundbite of him talking to meghan kelly, he didn't have to say that to meghan kelly, he can keep this to his own personal opinion as his own legal defense strategy. but he's compelled to go out and say these things which makes me believe that he almost doesn't care about the trial, he cares more about the public trial, who is he fooling here? >> oh, only in self, he's been bs-ing himself for years, he's a professional -- and capable o

she said that trump absolutely understood evan corcoran, another lawyer, and witness to that meeting., both of them were forced to talk because a federal judge ruled that attorney-client privilege is overruled because there's probable cause to think that trump used his attorneys to commit crimes and to show you how desperate trump's for lawyers now, jennifer little will certainly be a witness against him in the mar-a-lago case is still representing trump in fulton county. >> one of the bar one of the bizarre things, the tower, and it's not to get into donald trump's mindset and understand it. why does he do these things in public. if we played the soundbite of him talking to meghan kelly, he didn't have to say that to meghan kelly, he can keep this to his own personal opinion as his own legal defense strategy. but he's compelled to go out and say these things which makes me believe that he almost doesn't care about the trial, he cares more about the public trial, who is he fooling here? >> oh, only in self, he's been bs-ing himself for years, he's a professional -- and capable of tell

no, your lawyer is contradicting you, and the other lawyer, evan corcoran, has contemporaneous notes that jack smith has, so they corroborate each other, and it's damning when your own lawyers are the best witnesses against you. and that's why this mar-a-lago documents case is the strongest case against trump of all the cases and also because judge cannon has been slow walking the case, the least likely to be tried before the election. >> yep. she's been helping him out a whole lot. going to leave it there. lisa reuben, dave aronberg, thank you both very much. >>> up next on "the reidout," it's tempting to look at the maga wing of congress and write it off as a clown show, but behind the funny makeup, oversized shoes and squeaky red noses there's a real threat to american democracy, and the rights that many of us now take for granted. congressman adam schiff joins me when "the reidout" continues. with an array of active ingredients... and sizes to relieve your pain. salonpas. it's good medicine. honey, i think i heard something. ok. ♪ from christmas tree mats... to floorliners... car