joining us now is true anomaly ceo ewan rogers.his is an autonomous vehicle designed to fly close to other satellites. it has its own onboard propulsion system and cameras to maneuver safely. it can move in any orbital condition. it's designed at a cost point that allows the system to be proliferated at a scale that has been unachievable thus been supporting the space force today. ed: how do i get access to? and what are the threats of trying to gather data on? ewan: we want to transact in a way that aligns incentives. we want to target margins reported for defense investors. space forces nominated cleared what they intend to transact on a transact on a firm fixed contract for government operations. space forces working on a strategy and we hope to be part of the conversation. ed: what was the experience like working with spacex? ewan: they've been a fantastic partner. they have provided a launch at a cost where we can get access to space at a price point but doesn't a debate -- break the bank. this system did not exist in this sup