sonali: fairpoint. what he think about investors who are piling into riskier credits right now? do you think some might be aborting some of the risks out there? >> for sure. if you look at the market and the market construct, the incentive to take risk has been taken out, particularly in the liquid markets. if you look at the loan markets, triple c's, big part is insurance markets that can belie -- can't buy below bb. incentives have been pulled out. there are more more dispersions in the market. as i mentioned people are focused on spreads, but there's a lot of dispersion. it is a credit picking market. i'm not saying you should buy all lower rated triple c risk, but there's a lot of interesting opportunities if you can underwrite and differentiate yourself on some of that lower rated risk. sonali: to the extent you see dispersion, where are the most mispriced opportunities worth picking at right now? >> right now and as we mentioned in our letter, the cee-lo machine start again. you're seeing a ton of resets happening. people are trying to bring their triple c baskets down. yo