upton, who insists i call him fred, but i just can't.gressman upton, thank you for joining us. hope you had a very merry christmas. i'm so struck by this new polling out of iowa. if i can ask you about another midwestern state for a moment, because it's rhetoric like this that has likely caucusgoers in iowa, republicans, more likely to support trump. 42%, 43% more likely to support him when he says things like immigrants are poisoning the blood of america or the radical left thugs are like vermin. what does that tell you about your party right now? >> well, he's appealing to the base, and that base is not going to go away. it's sort of like i think it was axelrod who said early on, folks prefer the real thing versus desantis, which is the light trump. he's appealing to the base, but it really hurts with moderates, with swing voters, for sure. and you know, i can remember when i was in the congress and i retired earlier this year, so many people said, i like what he's doing on the economy, but why doesn't he just drop his cell phone into