joining me now is gary pierre, thank you for being here.i came to be dominated by this group of now allied gangs? >> as you mentioned in your introduction, this is a long walk toward this moment. in 2018, we began what they call lockdown, people couldn't leave their homes for months, and in 2021, the president was assassinated, and that created complete chaos and lawlessness. and they've been essentially running the country, the gangs, they've been able to levy taxes and tolls on people, and they are a criminal element so now my beloved country is run by criminals. >> let me ask you this. haiti seems like an experiment in punishment that began at the moment that they were liberated from the french, the moment they threw off the enslavers, they were locked into this giant debt, they had to pay reparations and there's never been a government that could actually function. what do you think is behind the fact that in addition to the international prohibition on them succeeding, why can't haiti get a government that is stable and functional? >>