. >> joining us now former lieutenant governor of georgia, geoff duncan and matt lewis. i want to get your reaction to what you saw last night. u y thinking what about last night, matt? >> thinking, man, i can't believe it, but i miss vivek ramaswamy. >> stop. >> i never thought i would say that. >> you wrote about this today. why? >> look, i was hoping that if we narrowed down the field and got rid of these hangers on we could have a really serious, substantive debate between what we could consider to be trump's two main rivals. they're not really that competitive with trump yet. i think everyone sort of thought fewer candidates would give us a better debate. to be honest with you, i think it was a worse debate. look, the big missed opportunity -- i was rooting for nikki haley, cards on the table, but i think she is somebody who has the potential to come across as likable and charismatic. yes, she has to firefight. she has to throw elbows. she has the potential to be reagan-esque and she did not do that. this was a childish, petty back and forth. >> you have to go after

. >> geoff duncan, thank you very much for being here. >> only four days until the iowa caucuses.t, asa hutchinson in arkansas is still in the race and what does he e see, and whoho he mig endorsrse if h he bows outut? stay w with us. >>> welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. the president's son, hunter biden pleaded not guilty in a federal case against him where he's accused of not paying more than a million dollars in taxes and they keep trying to connect hunter's financial dealings with his dad, the president. plus, two football titans calling it quits after 24 seasons and six super bowl titles, bill belichick says good-bye to the new england patriots and after 17 seasons and six national titles, nick saban retires as alabama's head coach. we will talk about it with bob costas, a legend in his own right. >> and leading this hour, the 2024 race is closing in and we are down four days before th