george gelowe, thank you so much for joining us. who was ismail hania? you knew him quite well and why was he key for palestinin liberation? well, over the last 30 and three, four, five days, uh, he's been the chief negotiator for the palestinian side in the apparent attempt by israel to free what it calls its hostages. palestinians would call them prisoners, or the prisoners in the israel. jails should also be called hostages, because they're both the same, they're being held against their will, for no good reason, they were taken by either side, so the either both prisoners or the're both hostages uh, and he was the chief negotiator on behalf of the palestinian side, and not since medieval times, has a more high profile negotiator being killed by the people he was negotiating. with uh, this is i think the first thing to say, but his proper title was the head of the political bureau, that's an important title, an important post, but it is a political post. he wasn't a military leader, neither when i met him in 2009, when i took a siege breaking convoy f