is it not the george mcgovern that i learned as a child. >> he wrote a great "wall street journal" articles the one. [ laughter ] i'm sorry. newt gingrich, you are the best of the best. all my best to ambassador callista. >> joining us now florida kaj congressman brian mast and cory mills, it occurred to me talking to newt gingrich. you have this san francisco, california ultra progressive democrat. that is my riff last night. you are both from florida. and i said, that i want a red state like florida economic model, which is no income tax. lower regulations, and pro business, and et cetera and et cetera. instead of the california blue state model, i don't think, i'll start with brian mast, time to speak up for the florida red state model that will determine that election. >> everything that moves to florida knows that as soon as they move there they get a raise they are not paying more and more and more in taxes like in new york city or anywhere in california. what do you think? >> that is right. only difference between new yorker and floridian is 6 months. the minute they electric at loo

george mcgovern got one state and d.c. as well.mondello loses, he told me 1984, he called up george mcgovern, it was 12 years after mcgovern's huge defeat, doing a lot to end his political career, at least as a presidential candidate, and so mondale said, george, when does this start hurting? and mcgovern said years later, when it does, i will let you know. that's what this is like. >> this passing of the torch, though, what precedents do you see for this? >> usually, presidents do not name their successors, and that's why this is such a historic day. that has rarely happens in modern american history. plus, the fact that we have never seen an incumbent president pull out basically a month before the convention, this is incredible. johnson and '68 pulled out in march, the convention was going to be in august. 1952, truman also pulled out in march, the convention that year was going to be in july, in chicago of all places. but the point is this is something that we never see, and i think this is something that we will be telling our

two weeks before the convention began, south dakota senator george mcgovern announced that he would throw his hat into the ring as a stand in candidate for voters who supported rfk. and when the democratic delegates eventually gathered in chicago nearly 10,000 anti-war protesters swept into the windy city. they were met by more than twice as many members of the national guard. >> demonstrators have filled the streets in front of the conrad hilton hotel. police held them back. tensions were high, and they broke. >> those tensions then spilled into the convention hall as delegates battled over who would be the party's nominee. >> george mcgovern as president of the united states we wouldn't have to stop those -- in the streets of chicago. how hard it is to accept the truth. >> the 1968 convention went down in history as one of the most chaotic, divisive, and weird moments in democratic party history. people lit their delegate cards on fire. protesters threatened to put lsd in the chicago water supply. the youth international party nominated a pig -- a pig named piggasus for president and de

is this not the george mcgovern i learned when i was a child?et journal" article explaining that he had been wrong. larry: [laughter]. i'm sorry. newt gingrich, you're the best of the best. all my best to ambassador calista. folks, joining us now florida congressman brian mast and cory mills. gentlemen, welcome. you know you guys, just occurred to me talking to newt gingrich who always puts me in a great frame of mind, you've got this san francisco, california, ultraprogressive democrat, this was my riff last night, fellows, you guys are both from florida and i said that i want a red state like florida's economic model which is no income tax, low regulations, pro-business, et cetera, et cetera, instead of the california blue state model. i don't know, i will start with brian mast. it is time to speak up for the florida red state model. that's going to determine this election. >> everybody that moves to florida knows that soon as they move there they get a raise because they're not paying more and more and more in taxes like in new york city or a

two weeks before the convention began, south dakota senator george mcgovern announced that he would throw his hat into the ring as a stand-in candidate for voters who supported rfk. and when the democratic delegates eventually gathered in chicago, nearly 10,000 antiwar protesters swept into the windy city. they were met by more than twice as many members of the national guard. >> demonstrators have filled the streets in front of the conrad hotel. police held them back. tensions were high and they broke. >> those tensions then spilled into the convention hall as delegates battled over who would be the party's nominee. >> george mcgovern is president of the united states! we wouldn't have to have gestapo tactics in the streets of chicago. >> how hard it is to accept the truth. truth. >> the 1968 convention went down in history as one of the most chaotic, divisive, and weird moments in democratic party history. people lit their delegate cards on fire. protesters threatened to put lsd in the chicago water supply. the youth international party nominated a pig, a pig named pig a sauce for presi

two weeks before the convention began south dakota senator george mcgovern announced that he would throw his hat into the ring as a stand-in candidate for voters who supported rfk and when the democratic delegates eventually gathered in chicago, nearly 10,000 anti- war protesters swept into the windy city. they were met by more than twice as many members of the national guard. >> peace now! peace now! peace now! >> demonstrators have filled the streets in front of the conrad hilton hotel. police held them back. tensions were high till they broke. >> those tensions then spilled into the convention hall as delegates battled over who would be the party's nominee. >> george mcgovern is president of the united states. we wouldn't have to have gestapo tactics in the streets of chicago. how hard it is to accept the truth. >> the 1968 convention went down in history as one of the most chaotic, divisive, and weird moments in democratic party history. people lit their delegate cards on fire. protesters threatened to put lsd in the chicago water supply. the youth international party nominated a pig

mcgovern. we went the tubes in 1984. we lost 49 states. so why did we urge this nice man, very successful governor, in his third term to run for president? i wasn't because we were bad at math. it was because in the words of that old typing exercise, it was time for all good men to come to the aid of the party. and we had to put up the strongest candidate could, which in 1988 was mike dukakis. now, why do i say he was the strongest candidate we could have put up? well, in politics at time, kind of like now. but now the results are different. a lot of candidacies were ended amidst scandal and controversy. so and the entire process of nomination is it is a darwinian process. you win an early primary or you get or caucus or you get your money dries up and you go away. lots candidates were blowing up. geraldine ferraro greatly hindered mondale's campaign 84 because she went through eight days of refusing to release her husband's and her tax returns, even though it turned out that they paid more tha

mcgovern. we went the tubes in 1984. we lost 49 states. so why did we urge this nice man, very successful governor, in his third term to run for president? i wasn't because we were bad at math. it was because in the words of that old typing exercise, it was time for all good men to come to the aid of the party. and we had to put up the strongest candidate could, which in 1988 was mike dukakis. now, why do i say he was the strongest candidate we could ha up? well, in politics at time, kind of like now. but now the results are different. a lot of candidacies were ended amidst scandal and controversy. so and the entire process of nomination is it is a darwinian process. you win an early primary or you get or caucus or you get your money dries up and you go away. lots candidates were blowing up. geraldine ferraro greatly hindered mondale's campaign 84 because she went through eight days of refusing to release her husband's and her tax returns, even though it turned out that they paid more than they

senator george mcgovern. governor terry. governor. you can air air. governor. romney. robert draper. and other. governor gary. jerry apodaca. make it. governor raul castro. barbara jordan. back. may be the new york mayor. eric. governor phil noel, rhode island. and henry mauer. happy. mayor can get to new york. mayor jim. lucas and governor chris stack of new york. madman landrieu of louisiana, new orleans. that's forgiveness. lack of protocol tonight. ain't no protocol in this house. we're all one. proud. mr. robert hunter here on the carter campaign. where are bob. mayor de castro. mayor, had your buried. let hope the platform does not collapse. mr. leonard, let's try to. live by well. that was that occurred. what happened after that first. asked you to wrap yourwell as o. rights leaders you you can do whatever but they my belief is, you know what's really unique about graceland archives is that it really tells us a complete story and it really is one of the largest archives dedicated to one individual that exists here in the united states in the archives at gracelan

senator george mcgovern. governor terry. governor. you can air air. governor. romney. robert draper. and other. governor gary. jerry apodaca. make it. governor raul castro. barbara jordan. back. may be the new york mayor. eric. governor phil noel, rhode island. and henry mauer. happy. mayor can get to new york. mayor jim. lucas and governor chris stack of new york. madman landrieu of louisiana, new orleans. that's forgiveness. lack of protocol tonight. ain't no protocol in this house. we're all one. proud. mr. robert hunter here on the carter campaign. where are bob. mayor de castro. mayor, had your buried. let hope the platform does not collapse. mr. leonard, let's try to. live by well. that was that occurred. what happened after that first. asked you to wrap yourwell as o. rights leaders you you can do whatever but they my belief is, you know what's really unique about graceland archives is that it really tells us a complete story and it really is one of the largest archives dedicated to one individual that exists here in the united states in the archives at gracelan

i thought back to tom eagleton, who was george mcgovern's running mate.ern was chosen by the democratic delegates in 1972. he picked tom eagleton, senator from missouri, to be his running mate. then all these storiesame out about his emotional health, mental health, shock treatment. he was soon off the ticket. and along came sarge driver. but nothing like this exactly. john: i misspoke when i said harry truman dropped out in 1948, it was 1952. you have been traveling the country for our series america at the crossroads, talking to a lot of people about the divisions in america. is this something that has the potential of bringing people together or further dividing people? judy: i would like to tell you it has the potential to resolve all our differences and bring us together. john: oh, please do. judy: i will say i think it has the potential clearly at the very least to get people to rethink this race. we have a whole new -- we are not sure who the nominee is. we believe it's going to be kamala harris. we don't know who her running mate is. there are any

and i think it will melt like george mcgovern and mike dukakis. average american will not want to have a radical san francisco candidate who personifies everything first of all which is destroyed san francisco. you look at the human feces in the street the drug syringes in the street and the population of homelessness exploding that is the city she was district attorney of. she only got to be presidential candidate because the super boss of san francisco nancy pelosi empowered to joe biden, brutalized him into having to resign and pivoted within an hour beginning to push kamala harris 1 of the least american behaviours a total coup against a sitting president to the united states by his own friends to drive him out of office when he got 14 half a replacing them with their puppet guide 0 votes no votes when she ran on her own in 2000 never been on the ballot by yourself result by people he liked biden speech tonight the importance of democracy it matters so how can the democrats nominate her? >> among some republicans and conservatives i know there

in 1972 george mcgovern who was very much the underdog in that race running against richard nixon chose thomas eagleton, the missouri senator for the vp slot. that was a rushed vetting process. party rules had changed but there were complications at the convention and he had to make that pick in 24 hours. he tried to get ted kennedy on board, he said no. other people said no, they thought it was a doomed campaign. eagleton, well-qualified senator , mcgovern shows him. soon after that it came out -- eagleton had not mentioned this -- it came out thomas eagleton had undergone electric shock therapy. there were concerns about what that might say about his ability to serve well in office. much more complicated story than this. i think it is the 18 day running mate i would encourage people to read. he was then taken off the ticket even though mcgovern had said i am 1000% behind thomas eagleton. two days later he dropped him from the ticket and picked sargent shriver instead and they would go on to lose 49 states. host: darrell in north carolina. independent line. caller: while discourse on t

and i think it will melt like george mcgovern and mike dukakis.he average american will not want to have a radical san francisco candidate who personifies everything first of all which is destroyed san francisco. you look at the human feces in the street the drug syringes in the street and the population of homelessness exploding that is the city she was district attorney of. she only got to be presidential candidate because the super boss of san francisco nancy pelosi empowered to joe biden, brutalized him into having to resign and pivoted within an hour beginning to push kamala harris 1 of the least american behaviours a total coup against a sitting president to the united states by his own friends to drive him out of office when he got 14 half a replacing them with their puppet guide 0 votes no votes when she ran on her own in 2000 never been on the ballot by yourself result by people he liked biden speech tonight the importance of democracy it matters so how can the democrats nominate her? >> among some republicans and conservatives i know the

most concerning has to be for the vice president and they got george mcgovern you talk about michaelakis both at 18-point leads. as folks realize how radical they were in five months michael dukakis went from winning by 18 to losing by five. if republicans very calmly and lay out the case why the vice president's abuse are outside the mainstream, donald trump is going to have a victory come election day. >> all that said the harris campaign says they raised $200 million since she became the presumptive nominee. that indicates a lot of enthusiasm, doesn't it? >> it certainly does amongst the democratic base. and amongst their very wealthy donors who are funding their campaigns. absolutely. she is a formidable opponent do not get me wrong. but as more people learn about she wants to get the child tax credits that pastor and the trump administration. she wants to get rid of fossil fuels. that is not going to play wellin swing states it. go down and position after position and he realizes she is a san francisco radical. and americans, as they learn are not going to like that. you almost

[laughter] so george mcgovern, walter mondale, step aside. you're going to have company.r 2024. if. edward: it goes back to the policies and eventually the media will get back to talking about what she believes. leo terrell, incredible insight, as always. thank you very much, i appreciate it. >> thank you, sir. edward: so the dnc is now changing their voting rules to to push through kamala virtually. plus, the trump campaign filing a campaign finance complaint over biden passing his millions in donations over to the vice president. from surrogate and attorney lee zeldin weighs in next. ♪ ♪ ♪ progressive makes it easy to save with a quick commercial auto quote online. so you can get back to your monster to-do list. -really? -get a quote at progresivecommercial.com. somebody would ask her something and she would just walk right past them. she didn't know they were talking to her. i just could not hear. i was hesitant to get the hearing aids because of my short hair. but nobody even sees them. our nearly invisible hearing aids are just one reason we've been the brand leader

mark my words, this is the worst vice presidential pick, probably since 1,972 when george mcgovern chose thomas eagleton as his vp pick, he got replaced. i don't think vance is going to get replaced, but that's what we're talking about, you know, planet did i ever think we'd be talking about vp nominees this later? the end of a cycle after was picked like ten days ago, bakari you know, i think that that j.d. vance is kind of the sarah palin of dan quayle's. and so that's what you're seeing right now. you're just seeing somebody who's flailing and attempting to find his footing as having a great deal of difficulty due to their lack of experience. one of the other things that's kind of throwing this whole, this whole game off is that the republicans have had a great deal of time to deal with the concern of whether or not joe biden was going to be replayed on the ticket and still yet, they have not been able to formulate a game plan i mean, just the fact that people can't pronounce her name correctly. there are a lot of people who are watching who her name is comma law. it's quite simple, b

i think she will melt like george mcgovern and mike dukakis, because i thinkican the average american will not want to have a radical san francisco candidate who personifies everything, first of all, which has destroyed san francisco. i mean, people will go thereok now and look at the human in the stree at cet. look at the drugs, syringes in the street. look at how much they then of population of homeless has exploded. homelessthat's the city that shs the district attorney in. she represents its values. and by the way, she only got to be the presidentialo candidate because the super bus of san francisco, nancy pelosi,o and powered joe bide jn and just brutalized him into having to w resign and then pivoted within an hour and began pushing kamala. bed so this is the one of the least american behaviors. this was a totalrs a coup agains a sitting president in states by his owa sittn friendsn to drive him out of office, even when he'd gotten in 42, 14 and a half million votes. and to replace with their no vet who got zero votes, she got no votes. and when she ran on her owshe n and 2000 a

. >> the only campaign event this compares to his 1972, george mcgovern as nominee had to drop his vice presidential nominee after the convention and find a new one. and they found someone who never held elective office, but he was related to kennedy and had a certain prominence, but it was a desperate, chaotic situation. and it felt desperate and chaotic, and hopeless. and the whole sensation of that was a sinking feeling. this, starting 20 minutes after joe biden made his announcement yesterday, has been a surging feeling, and all the credit for these first two days and a way this seamless transition in a campaign, a transition is never occurred before, has happened is entirely thanks to joe biden, entirely thanks to the way he managed yesterday. it makes the gigantic earth shattering announcement that goes around the world. gives it 20 minutes, then tells you, this is what we should do., let harris be the candidate, and you watch all that endorsement energy pouring toward her from other people. they don't want to be the last one on, the ones who still have a political future want to

mcgovern was the underdog in that case and richard nixon, he chosen siri senator for peak/. in trying to get ahead of the lots on board say is a well qualified senator attractive in many ways for that mcgovern chose him and he came out he had undergone electric shock therapy and there was a lot of concern about what that might say to serve well office and there is a great. i would encourage people but then was taken off the ticket even though he said i am 1000% behind instruction from the and they had gone to the united states darrell in north carolina, independent line. >> thank you for michael. this course on this topic is very important socially as we mentioned. do think it was there? why is it only one party, one party is always portrayed as evil. the other party is portrayed totally as divine. >> elaborate a little bit on what you mean on the criticism on governor vance's character. >> nothing more than a mere puppet by donald trump. his own integrity and convention as a public servant. i have seen nothing that would even suggest that. and for your guest to demonize som

in 1972 george mcgovern who was very much the underdog in that race running against richard nixon choses eagleton, the missouri senator for the vp slot. that was a rushed vetting process. party rules had changed but there were complications at the convention and he had to make that pick in 24 hours. he tried to get ted kennedy on board, he said no. other people said no, they thought it was a doomed campaign. eagleton, well-qualified senator , mcgovern shows him. soon after that it came out -- eagleton had not mentioned this -- it came out thomas eagleton had undergone electric shock therapy. there were concerns about what that might say about his ability to serve well in office. much more complicated story than this. i think it is the 18 day running mate i would encourage people to read. he was then taken off the ticket even though mcgovern had said i am 1000% behind thomas eagleton. two days later he dropped him from the ticket and picked sargent shriver instead and they would go on to lose 49 states. host: darrell in north carolina. independent line. caller: while discourse on this to